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slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
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Someone seems fishy about this...

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's real, just polished.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    The coin looks like it was buffed out.

    Very unatural in appearance.
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Although I don't collect CBH's and rarely look at them - except for those psoted here - I'd say that 1825
    CBH is a really good "FAKE".

    The obverse just doesn't look quite right, IMHO. The reverse looks pretty good and this coin could easily fool the unsuspecting.

    Edited to say:I told you I don't know too much about CBH's. I defer to Bear's description.
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Definitely polished and I think her hair has been tooled.....poor thing is a mess.image
    Becky
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    agreed with the tooling to the hair and maybe more
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin has been through major 'work'... like an aging movie star after plastic surgery... image Cheers, RickO
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    RotatedRainbowsRotatedRainbows Posts: 2,085 ✭✭
    If the coin looks in person like it does in the picture hair retooling would be appropriate as the lower curls on the neck look very weird.
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    slumlord98slumlord98 Posts: 1,180 ✭
    It looks real, but there are some very convincing fakes of this era, so convincing as to have been slabbed by PCGS and offered for $40k as a new die marriage. You can probably get this one for less.
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    slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    The graininess around the date almost makes it look like a cast copy.
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It sure does seem to have detailing...
    I believe that that hair took someone at least 2 hours to perm like thatimage
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I have no problem with this seller, he states in his description that his coins most probably have been cleaned.

    Steve
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    410a410a Posts: 1,325 ✭
    A really boring afternoon at the shop with a half hour to kill.
    A jewelers cloth,to wrap the coin in, your thumb and two fore
    fingers and you rub, repeat, rub. Viola' and it's REAL.
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    slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    real one
    image
    possible fake one
    image
    real one
    image
    possible fake one
    image
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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    I think it is real and been polished. I would not want it.
    image
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would love to see someone super-impose that image on top of a known similar die marriage to show how well that "new doo" looksimage

    At least 2 hours work on this one......
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    Just looking at the two Obverse pics for a minute and the tooling just jumps out. Good example.
    Need something designed and 3D printed?
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,861 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Harshly cleaned, aggressively tooled, and inaccurately restyled. Where's the "Barf" emoticon?
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks real, but harshly cleaned and polished.
    All glory is fleeting.
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    DeusExMachinaDeusExMachina Posts: 1,325 ✭


    << <i>Definitely polished and I think her hair has been tooled.....poor thing is a mess.image >>



    image

    That coin might as well be a fake, it's been destroyed.
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a waste.
    I just got this the other day and feel sorry for who ever gets that piece of junk.
    image

    And the price was real close to this one.
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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's going on at the chin line,some metal moved around?
    Al
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    definitely real
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,817 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>definitely real >>



    ........and definately ruined.

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    NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is 1825 O.102, but as others have said, polished, whizzed, central hair re-engraved. Check out the extra curl below the ear! The mouth and neck have also been messed with.

    $212 OUCH! I sent an email to the buyer about this thread, the re-engraved hair, the polishing, and that the value of the coin is no more than $75. I would not mind at all if someone removed this common variety coin from the market and melted it down.
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    nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That coin has been through major 'work'... like an aging movie star after plastic surgery... image Cheers, RickO >>

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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>That coin has been through major 'work'... like an aging movie star after plastic surgery... image Cheers, RickO >>

    image >>



    I agree. Real--just overworked!

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    mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    This ebay seller says he is located in Portland, Oregon. I never heard of this seller, and I lived in Portland for over forty years. If the location was Vancouver, WA, I might have a guess at who the seller is---at least once in a blue moon.image
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
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    gonzergonzer Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tooled enough to actually make her look like she's smirking. That mouth just ain't right.
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>That coin has been through major 'work'... like an aging movie star after plastic surgery... image Cheers, RickO >>

    image >>



    I agree. Real--just overworked! >>



    Not directed at you fcloud...

    BUT... Once a coin has had a nice 2 hour applied hairdo like this one has (not to mention the minor plastic surgery to the chin line or anything), can this be called real anymore???
    Real to me means not screwed with....

    Once a budding young actress has 3 pounds of silicon added to each side of her chest, are they considered REAL anymore?????

    Lets call it like it is folks---this one might have started out real, but it ain't real anymore.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    Really Polished, like this, but with lighting to make it look all shiney like...



    image
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    PrivateCoinCollectorPrivateCoinCollector Posts: 2,415 ✭
    Looks like she's in drag...
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey thiggy,
    You don't think the coin in the OP has had any metal....moved around a bit???
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭


    << <i>Hey thiggy,
    You don't think the coin in the OP has had any metal....moved around a bit??? >>



    Other than the edges being pushed up during the whiz, in my opinion, no.
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I respect your opinion thiggy, but I think the only thing NOT DONE yet to this coin is the addition of some nice aging lines added around her eyes to show a litlle bit more maturityimage
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    It could very well be tooled, but I've seen many example of good whizz jobs where the whizzers ran up the edges during the polishing process to create the appearance of more definition. This looks like one. *shrug*
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