Rick Kay is not going to be happy with me...

MrEureka · December 1, 2006 10:24AM

I think the Sacagawea Dollar is a more attractive design than the Schoolgirl Dollar.

ziggy29 · December 1, 2006 10:33AM

Not even close.

[Edit to add: I like the Sac's eagle better. But not nearly so much that it changes what I think about the coins overall.]

ColonialCoinUnion · December 1, 2006 10:34AM

I'm glad you're not re-decorating my house.

Aegis3 · December 1, 2006 10:34AM

I prefer the Schoolgirl to Sacajawea, but actually, I prefer the Washlady design to the Schoolgirl.

bhartman35 · December 1, 2006 10:35AM

I like the Schoolgirl Dollar better.

Edited to Add: I don't know what Rick Kay would prefer, though.

ledzep87 · December 1, 2006 10:37AM

The Schoolgirl Dollar is MUCH better!

Newb · December 1, 2006 10:41AM

I'm no Sac fan, but the schoolgirl's got a wicked case of the mumps and her Eagle looks like a pissed off chicken.

jonesy · December 1, 2006 10:42AM

I'll bet the School Girl has man hands!!

Coinosaurus · December 1, 2006 10:43AM

I don't buy it, Eureka. I think you are just trying to stir things up

RichieURich · December 1, 2006 10:44AM

I do see the merits of the Sacagawea, the Schoolgirl, and the Washlady Dollars, but I prefer the design below:

Lakesammman · December 1, 2006 10:46AM

Richie:

The schoolgirl has a prettier face.

Andy - what are you smoking/drinking tonight?? They aren't even CLOSE!

RichieURich · December 1, 2006 10:58AM

<< Richie:

The schoolgirl has a prettier face.

>>

Lakesammman, I know that. Who cares?

kranky · December 1, 2006 11:13AM

<< I don't buy it, Eureka. I think you are just trying to stir things up

>>

Agreed!

michael · December 1, 2006 11:14AM

nuts!!

andy you need top get your eyes checked

MrEureka · December 1, 2006 11:18AM

I don't buy it, Eureka. I think you are just trying to stir things up

I do prefer the Sac, and I am also trying to stir things up. It's easy to do when so many of you have the aesthetic sensibilities of, well, CCU's interior decorator.

michael · December 1, 2006 11:19AM

Newb · December 1, 2006 11:20AM

So where are the gutless punks who voted for the Sac but don't have the sack to back it up?

dorancoins · December 1, 2006 11:21AM

<< I think the Sacagawea Dollar is a more attractive design than the Schoolgirl Dollar.

>>

I would love to have the gold Sac but like the 1933 $20 its forbidden fruit.

boiler78 · December 1, 2006 11:21AM

I think Andy has finally lost it!

MrEureka · December 1, 2006 11:24AM

I think Andy has finally lost it!

Oh, that was a given long ago. But seriously, the Sac is far more graceful in design. And I assure you that my motives are the purest. Even if I am, for the most part, more attracted to Shoshoni squaws than Victorian heifers.

elwood · December 1, 2006 11:24AM

<< I think the Sacagawea Dollar is a more attractive >>

She (Sacagawea...Randy?) looks even better in person

JapanJohn · December 1, 2006 11:27AM

AH HA! So you're the guy who had my 2000 W Gold Sac that was in space.

Sac is prettier than the schoolgirl.

John

Longacre · December 1, 2006 11:31AM

You need to lay off the sauce, Andy.

Regulated · December 1, 2006 11:46AM

Andy - what are your criteria??????

MrEureka · December 2, 2006 11:09AM

Andy - what are your criteria??????

How about "balance, grace and spirit"?

But to be more specific, both obverse portraits are attractive. I have a slight preference for the Sac for three reasons. First, all Morgan did was throw a girlish wig on his bland (Bland?) head of 1878. That's not creative, unless your idea of creativity is dressing up Mr Potatohead. Second, I can't tell where her forehead ends and her nose begins. (Just like in 1878, and again, just like Mr Potatohead.) Third, the positioning of the date and legend on the Schoolgirl isn't quite as balanced as on the Sac. .

As for the reverse, it's a no brainer. But for the benefit of the blind, and for CCU, I'll explain. Look at Morgan's eagle. It's angry, menacing and generally unpleasant to look at. Plus it's sitting on a ridiculous perch with some poorly drawn branches and leaves. Why would we want something like that on our coins? Are we looking for a battle?

As for the Sac, its Eagle is soaring gracefully, proudly and freely, all surrounded elegantly by stars, mottos and legends. It's a superb design and one that creates the "right" image for our nation.

CarlWohlforth · December 2, 2006 11:17AM

I like the schoolgirl. I am attracted to the very different looks of each obverse subject. The Sac reverse is just so busy it is distracting. Eagles don't look like that when I've seen them in real life. The stars fill up what might otherwise be an OK idealistic reverse. I like the eagle on the reverse of the schoolgirl. It looks like Eagles look. Admittedly what he is standing on doesn't work.

MrEureka · December 2, 2006 11:25AM

Eagles don't look like that when I've seen them in real life. I like the eagle on the reverse of the schoolgirl. It looks like Eagles look.

Carl - Maybe that's because when you've seen them in real life, they've seen you.

Konahead · December 2, 2006 12:42PM

<< Richie:

The schoolgirl has a prettier face.

Andy - what are you smoking/drinking tonight?? They aren't even CLOSE!

>>

Yeah, looks like my donkey!

coindeuce · December 2, 2006 12:48PM

O.K. Andy, we already know that you have more of a soft spot for single mothers than fair maidens.

numobri · December 2, 2006 2:49PM

Sorry but,your nuts.

If I were like the Eagle on the back of the patteren,

I'd bite you.

Brian

oreville · December 2, 2006 4:34PM

Andy; what about William Barber's attempt to do the 1878 flowinghair $5 pattern before Charles Barber screwed it up with his 1879 $4 flowinghair Stella?

I think it is one of his greatest works.

I also liked the schoolgirl pattern more. The original designed Sacky was nicer than the issued one before it was made more cartoonish.

Elcontador · December 2, 2006 4:44PM

The Eagle on the Schoolgirl Dollar looks a bit like the one on Mexican currency, but without the snake in its beak.

D · December 2, 2006 5:46PM

The W, composition, and eagle in flight does it for me.

-D

AU58WALKERS · December 2, 2006 5:51PM

uhh....where can I get one of those "PISSED OFF CHICKEN" dollars?

larrynj · December 2, 2006 10:10PM

andy, i hope those are just milk spots on sacy's face.

Coinhog · December 2, 2006 10:48PM

They are both beautiful coins.

It is really unfortunate that the sac does not get the respect it deserves. In 150 years it will be a killer coin. It has low mintages, it circulates to an extant, and the design is very attractive, The subject matter is compelling, its ties to this nations history is indisputable.

Give her a break!

MrEureka · December 3, 2006 1:52AM

So where are the gutless punks who voted for the Sac but don't have the sack to back it up?

Good question. Apparently, lurkers have better taste than the rest of us.

fastrudy · December 3, 2006 1:57AM

My eyes have never been checked....they've always been blue.

Newb · December 3, 2006 2:08AM

<< So where are the gutless punks who voted for the Sac but don't have the sack to back it up?

Good question. Apparently, lurkers have better taste than the rest of us. >>

Coin snobs...whaddaya expect...'if it ain't old, it's crap'.

As I said, I'm no Sacky fan...don't even own one...but making it a plain old dollar ruined it. Bet it would have a lot more respect if it had been a "limited edition"...AGE or ASE like...

MrEureka · December 3, 2006 2:24AM

bhartman35 · December 3, 2006 2:37AM

In my eyes, it's a matter of classical aesthetics. The design of the Schoolgirl dollar looks clean and classical. The design of the Sac looks as if the designer was trying to be photo-realistic, and in my eyes, he didn't quite pull it off. I liked Mr. Carr's Sac obverse better, because it wasn't an attempt to be literal:

The image that Andy just posted does look kind of nice, though. I think the way the light goes across a Sac when you're holding it is less flattering than that sculpture.

RKKay · December 3, 2006 2:43AM

<< I think the Sacagawea Dollar is a more attractive design than the Schoolgirl Dollar.

>>

Are you off your meds again?!?!?

MrEureka · December 3, 2006 2:47AM

Are you off your meds again?!?!?

Of course. Why else would I be here?

RKKay · December 3, 2006 3:02AM

That was the only possible explanation.

Newb · December 3, 2006 10:22AM

That sculpture's not even close - they should have stayed true to it. Much nicer.

CarlWohlforth · December 3, 2006 10:50AM

<<Carl - Maybe that's because when you've seen them in real life, they've seen you. >>

Ha, Ha, Ha!!! Good try Andy!

I've seen hundreds of those bald eagles. Everybody tries to take photos of them when they are majestically soaring through the skies. I'm sure they try very hard.

Those birds would rather sit and eat than fly. It is way too easy to see those scavenging beggars scarfing up fish innards in the garbage dumps on the docks on almost any waterfront in Alaska. They are too busy eating disgusting, rotting, fish remnants to bother with looking at me!

lordmarcovan · December 3, 2006 11:01AM

<< The design of the Sac looks as if the designer was trying to be photo-realistic, and in my eyes, he didn't quite pull it off. >>

She, actually. (Glenna Goodacre).

Each within their own context, with the Sac as a millennial-era design and the Schoolgirl as a 19th century design, I like them both. In different ways, but I think they are both nice designs.

MrEureka · December 3, 2006 11:05AM

Those birds would rather sit and eat than fly. It is way too easy to see those scavenging beggars scarfing up fish innards in the garbage dumps on the docks on almost any waterfront in Alaska. They are too busy eating disgusting, rotting, fish remnants to bother with looking at me!

Carl - Thank you. I now have a deeper understanding of why the Bald Eagle is seen as quintessentially American.

bhartman35 · December 3, 2006 12:43PM

<< She, actually. (Glenna Goodacre). >>

Thanks. I sit corrected.

Rick Kay is not going to be happy with me...

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