Do you have what it takes to get your name here? Have you earned your spot among the elite?

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 2:46AM

Do you think you have reached the level of SUCKDOM to get you name here? There have been many PCGS forum members who have earned the coveted "YOU SUCK!" award, but very few have made it here! If you think you have earned a spot among the top "YOU SUCK!" recipients let me know. If the official panel deems you worthy enough, you feat of extreme SUCKYNESS will be added here!

dizzyfoxx · November 26, 2006 2:56AM

ricko · November 26, 2006 3:02AM

Hmmmmmm.... that would be good sucking.... well, isn't most of it?

Cheers, RickO

Russ · November 26, 2006 3:04AM

Baley definitely deserves to be on that list. You'll need to get the details, but he discovered a new Overton variety that's worth about $20K.

Russ, NCNE

mgoodm3 · November 26, 2006 3:07AM

I think baley's 1806 o129 makes the others look small-time.

Plus, the o-129 has a famous pedigree "ex LordM holey coin vest"

edit: Baley's is o-115, so is the o-129 another new variety?

Russ · November 26, 2006 3:14AM

<< I think baley's 1806 o129 makes the others look small-time. >>

That depends on how you look at it. As a discovery coin, it's huge, no doubt. In that respect it tops the list by a wide margin. From a value standpoint, though, it isn't that far ahead of the group. In fact, Marty's Frankie has a higher market value.

<< Plus, the o-129 has a famous pedigree "ex LordM holey coin vest" >>

I think you might be mixing up coins.

Russ, NCNE

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 3:22AM

When I get the details I can add him...

TheNumish · November 26, 2006 3:29AM

bought a 1956-D BU Jeffeson Nickel roll for $4 and got a PCGS MS-66 Full Steps out of it. Sold it in a Heritage auction for $2,300.

p8nt · November 26, 2006 3:35AM

I'm famous! I made the list!

410a · November 26, 2006 3:40AM

Is Linda Lovelace on the list? Anyone?

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 3:41AM

<< bought a 1956-D BU Jeffeson Nickel roll for $4 and got a PCGS MS-66 Full Steps out of it. Sold it in a Heritage auction for $2,300. >>

That made it... Added.

granpagraf · November 26, 2006 3:50AM

I just got a 1891-CC, Vam-3, Top 100 Spitting Eagle back from NGC graded MS-64. I found this and 4 more CC's in an Antique Mall in Minnesota for $50.00 each plus the lady had an additional 15% off as a special sale price! Who say's You can't find good coins in antique malls?
I don't know if this qualifies Me or not?
granpagraf

ziggy29 · November 26, 2006 3:53AM

I believe this thread includes a rip that qualifies for upper-echelon YOU SUCKDOM. The 1860-O dime referenced did, in fact, get graded AU-58 by PCGS.

Russ · November 26, 2006 3:54AM

Here's the details on Baley's coin.

Russ, NCNE

cladking · November 26, 2006 4:02AM

MadMarty is being very modest. He sucks in so many ways that trying to name
just one is difficult. Frankly I think he was at his most suckiness when he picked
up the inverted "S" '68 proof half dollars. I've been looking for years and he pulls
them right out from under my nose.

Of course he also found the complete set of Cracker Jacks tokens for a song.

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 4:05AM

Baley and jonathanb added.

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 4:06AM

<< MadMarty is being very modest. He sucks in so many ways that trying to name
just one is difficult. Frankly I think he was at his most suckiness when he picked
up the inverted "S" '68 proof half dollars. I've been looking for years and he pulls
them right out from under my nose.

Of course he also found the complete set of Cracker Jacks tokens for a song. >>

Those just suck, but it takes a lot to reach the "YOU SUCK!" Hall of Fame!!!

VamGuy · November 26, 2006 4:07AM

I submitted a raw 1902-O to PCGS for grading knowing full well it would 65 (coin cost $75).

It was the finest known, and the only known Mint State VAM 26A LDS double clashed G with counterclashing. It sold on eBay for over $4,000.

Elite

coindeuce · November 26, 2006 4:11AM

Purchased an 1851-O Seated Half, PCGS-65 (pop.2, 1 higher @66) for under 7K from another board member. CFC recently appraised it at 13K. What say you MadOne?

fcloud · November 26, 2006 4:12AM

Cool thread. I see there are more listed than the first time I looked!

My best pickups would not even come close to some of you. Congrats to those of you who made the list!

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 4:29AM

<< Purchased an 1851-O Seated Half, PCGS-65 (pop.2, 1 higher @66) for under 7K from another board member. CFC recently appraised it at 13K. What say you MadOne? >>

Not even close. Now if you paid $50 for it and got $13K. Then we're talking.

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 4:38AM

<< I submitted a raw 1902-O to PCGS for grading knowing full well it would 65 (coin cost $75).

It was the finest known, and the only known Mint State VAM 26A LDS double clashed G with counterclashing. It sold on eBay for over $4,000.

Elite >>

That one works.

jonathanb · November 26, 2006 4:40AM

Fun list, Marty. Thanks.

Where possible, would it be possible to link back to the original threads for further discussion?

Also, I'd be interested in what they buyer paid and what the coin is worth. I don't follow modern proofs, for example, and I don't know if the ones that were listed are worth $1,000, $5,000, or $15,000. It would help give context for those who don't know everything...

Here are my contributions:

1860-O dime
Paid $408 (or $8, after the rest of the lot was sold). Now PCGS AU58 pop 1/0, worth $10,000+
(this thread is a followup to the thread that ziggy29 posted, with a link back to the original. Thanks, ziggy)

1855 $1 gold
Paid $1,000 (or $400, after the rest of the lot was sold). Now PCGS MS63, worth $10,000+

George Washington inaugural button
Paid $50, sold for $4,000 (and then resold, and resold, and resold -- last sale I heard of was $6,500)

Robert Fulton So-Called Dollar in gold, HK-375
Paid $26, similar piece sold in recent Goldberg sale for $2,500

I remember a story a while ago about someone who bought an early CC $20 gold piece for $1,000 and sold it for $30,000. Does anyone have details on that?

There's also the pair of early naval medals that were written up in The Numismatist a year or two ago. Paid $500, worth $20,000, or something like that...

jonathan

IGWT · November 26, 2006 4:44AM

-- "Do you have what it takes to get your name here? Have you earned your spot amoung the elete?" --

Elite, effete, or a cross between the two?

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 4:45AM

I was going to put that info in there, but I don't want to tip off anything to the poor dealers that got cherrypicked.

Those people on the list know how they got there and so do the board members!!

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 4:45AM

<< -- "Do you have what it takes to get your name here? Have you earned your spot amoung the elete?" --

Elite, effete, or a cross between the two? >>

Opps!!!

FatMan · November 26, 2006 4:45AM

I have a picture of you trying to seduce me with Pabst Blue Ribbon and Camel smokes while running your fingers through my hair. That has to worth millions and I didn't pay a dime. Does that count?

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 4:47AM

<<

I have a picture of you trying to seduce me with Pabst Blue Ribbon and Camel smokes while running your fingers through my hair. That has to worth millions and I didn't pay a dime. Does that count?

>>

But you loved every minute of it!!! It was a true Denver Brokeback moment!! Too bad the damn chicken broke it up!!!

Russ · November 26, 2006 4:51AM

<< << -- "Do you have what it takes to get your name here? Have you earned your spot amoung the elete?" --

Elite, effete, or a cross between the two? >>

Opps!!! >>

You missed "amoung".

Russ, NCNE

Coxe · November 26, 2006 4:51AM

Nice start on enumerating the suckdom of the forum. Got a way to go still. There is more regular sucking going on around here than......well, you can fill in the blank.

coindeuce · November 26, 2006 4:52AM

<< 

<< Purchased an 1851-O Seated Half, PCGS-65 (pop.2, 1 higher @66) for under 7K from another board member. CFC recently appraised it at 13K. What say you MadOne? >>

Not even close. Now if you paid $50 for it and got $13K. Then we're talking. >>

Guess it's time to revise the pricing on those '64 P.S. w/pointed 9 dimes

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 4:56AM

Come on now, Laura is going to make an easy cool million or more when the 1913 nickel sells, does that SUCK. No way! You didn't even double your money on that one. To earn a YOU SUCK, were talking increases in the 5000 and over % range!!!

coindeuce · November 26, 2006 5:00AM

How about those common S.C.D.'s that I sold to ya. Someone actually PAID ME to take them away.

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 5:02AM

<< How about those common S.C.D.'s that I sold to ya. Someone actually PAID ME to take them away.

>>

Now, now. I was going to return them but would have felt real bad about it...

But this one made up for the rest!

RichieURich · November 26, 2006 5:13AM

<< To earn a YOU SUCK, were talking increases in the 5000 and over % range!!! >>

How about buying an 1852 3c silver for $50, finding that it was the 1852, 1 over inverted 2 variety, getting it slabbed with the variety, and selling it for over $2,500?

ziggy29 · November 26, 2006 5:16AM

<< How about buying an 1852 3c silver for $50, finding that it was the 1852, 1 over inverted 2 variety, getting it slabbed with the variety, and selling it for over $2,500? >>

I think that's a "you suck." But be careful, lest someone try to spin this into an example of an evil dealer ripping a widow....

Mesquite · November 26, 2006 5:21AM

Isn't that list missimg longtimecollector? I could be wrong about that.

RichieURich · November 26, 2006 5:34AM

<< 

<< How about buying an 1852 3c silver for $50, finding that it was the 1852, 1 over inverted 2 variety, getting it slabbed with the variety, and selling it for over $2,500? >>

I think that's a "you suck." But be careful, lest someone try to spin this into an example of an evil dealer ripping a widow....

>>

Coin was purchased from an online auction, just don't remember which one.

Edited to add it graded PCGS VF-35.

Coxe · November 26, 2006 5:36AM

If I could get a realistic value on the 1887 VAM-1B I cherried, that might be suckworthy. Slabbed by PCGS at AU53, it is the finest known. Cost $22.50 plus grading fees. VAMView has AU at $1750, as does vamlink. Someone mentioned $20K as it is the best of only a handful of that needed Hot-50 known after 30+ years of hunters looking. Even using the VAMView/VAMlink number, it is nearly 8000%. Of course, it isn't sold and won't be for a while.

In general, VAMs are an easy place to make those huge windfalls. (Some are in higher grades than commonly known too and impossible to price therefore.) I have dozens in my spreadsheet with thousands of percent paper gains. I know many other cherrypickers have the same as me too.

ziggy29 · November 26, 2006 5:38AM

<< Coin was purchased from an online auction, just don't remember which one. >>

Yeah, I don't doubt it. But with some of the anti-dealer mentalities 'round these parts, if it can be spun into ripping widows and newbies, it will be!

Russ · November 26, 2006 5:47AM

<< Even using the VAMView/VAMlink number, it is nearly 8000%. Of course, it isn't sold and won't be for a while. >>

The cherrypick doesn't have to be sold to qualify. Just needs a low purchase price and a high current market value. Some stuff is tricky, though, since there isn't much in the way of sales history to use as a guide.

Russ, NCNE

Connecticoin · November 26, 2006 6:00AM

I had a "You Suck", do not know if it is HOF-worthy:

Paid $22 for an 1890 Morgan, graded PCGS MS-65, CDN Bid is $1,500.

tmot99 · November 26, 2006 6:21AM

I thought my HK222 purchase that graded tied for finest known might qualify. Not to mention the hoard I bought. Or the HK-20 that graded as a proof out of that hoard.

Bear · November 26, 2006 6:24AM

I wanna know if Marty's rubber chicken

made the list?

If you make the list, do you get to go

to heaven?

airplanenut · November 26, 2006 6:27AM

PM Sent

tradedollarnut · November 26, 2006 6:28AM

I bought a 1929-S Lincoln in a rattler MS65RD from a dealer at a little local show for around $200 ... got it upgraded the first time through and sold it for $3,700.

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 6:54AM

<< I bought a 1929-S Lincoln in a rattler MS65RD from a dealer at a little local show for around $200 ... got it upgraded the first time through and sold it for $3,700.

>>

Not good enough, if you would have bought it raw for $4 and sold it for what you did you would be there.

braddick · November 26, 2006 7:00AM

PM sent...

Gandyjai · November 26, 2006 7:04AM

I bought a 40% Silver Red Pack Bicentennial 3-Coinset off eBay for $11 + $4 s/h/i....I was only looking for
76-S MS68 Ikes (I'm an Ike addict!

).
The Kennedy didn't seem to have any marks on it, so I sent it in with my Ike batch on a whim. (I know
NOTHING about grading Kennedy Halves)...It came back MS69 is still the only one ever graded!

Brian

I LOVE

TALON HEAD, PEG-LEG AND ERROR IKES!

BigMoose · November 26, 2006 7:19AM

How about the Indian Cent collection I bought from a local dealer several years ago--in the 1873 slot was the Doubled Die, the good one, in full red. Got it certified as NGC 64 RD, it later crossed to PCGS as 64 RD, and sold it two weeks later for $50,000.00. It remains to this day the only 1873 1C DDO certified in full red. Dollar cost averaging, that 1873 cost me around $340.00.

I have been trying to make another score like this for the past 4 years, but no such luck.

MadMarty · November 26, 2006 7:19AM

<< I thought my HK222 purchase that graded tied for finest known might qualify. Not to mention the hoard I bought. Or the HK-20 that graded as a proof out of that hoard. >>

Tom, none of those are HOF material. Now if you got the HK222 for $10 and sold it for $5K that is more in line.

Do you have what it takes to get your name here? Have you earned your spot among the elite?

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