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Poll!! Can you tell the AT coin? Results posted!

MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
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Coin #1
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Coin #2
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Coin #3
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Coin #4
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It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i think so.
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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭
    Which one did you buy from MOC? image
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    They're all AT.

    Russ, NCNE
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They're all AT.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Nope three of them are in holders.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< They're all AT.

    Russ, NCNE >>

    Nope three of them are in holders. >>



    Good thing AT coins never get in holders.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>They're all AT.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Nope three of them are in holders. >>



    That sure instills pure confidence.....
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Why does everyone think there choice is AT?
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Good thing coins are never AT'd in holders.

    Russ, NCNE >>

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    This poll really should have been "Can you tell which coin that came from the same source was bodybagged by NGC while they holdered the other three coins?"

    Russ, NCNE
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    my reasoning is in the PM.
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    hootchiegirlhootchiegirl Posts: 222
    coin 3 is my prediction of the at coin
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    shame on whoever put them in a holder !

    Each one looks like handiwork to me.

    ``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5

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    CratonCraton Posts: 2,670
    I guessed #4 only because it looks so different then the others. I think that they all look good image
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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    There is no way to know for a certainty unless you were there when it was done.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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    dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Good thing AT coins never get in holders. >>



    imageimage
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1. I don't think that one can really pick the rejected coin from photographs. One needs to see them in person.

    #2. I tend to agree with Russ. I think all four coins are probably AT. I don't care for the toning patterns on any of them. Quite often natual toning is darker toward the outside of the coin and gets lighter toward the center. There is just something that is not real about these pieces.

    #3. If you twist my arm, I voted that #4 got the boot. image
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    GOLDSAINTGOLDSAINT Posts: 2,148 ✭
    Coin #4's colors are too even,NT does't work that way or at least very rarely.
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think coin number 4 is more likely to get BB'd for AT than are the others.
    theknowitalltroll;
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    I'll jump on the #4 bandwagon, with #3 being my second choice.
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    66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    4 is my guess
    Need something designed and 3D printed?
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    PeacemanPeaceman Posts: 5,098
    Looks like the same coin at different angles......
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    SFDukieSFDukie Posts: 618 ✭
    #4 has a white annular "halo" in the center which looks unnatural to my eye. My WAG...
    Don
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    CratonCraton Posts: 2,670


    << <i>Looks like the same coin at different angles...... >>



    That would be HILLARIOUS But two have an O mint mark and two are plain .... I also see different cracks on them. T'would have been funny though!
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    MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    #4 wasn't "cooked" as long as the other three.
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    jdsinvajdsinva Posts: 1,508 ✭
    Based on those pictures, #4 is my suspect. . .
    Jeff

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    mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like the same coin at different angles...... >>

    Can't be the same coin. Coins #1 & #3 are O mints, and the mint marks do not appear to be at the same position. Coins #2 & #4 have no mint marks, and I don't see any marks to indicate they are the same coin.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
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    PetescornerPetescorner Posts: 1,220 ✭✭
    #2. I can't tell you why though, without revealing my cover.
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I'll give it about an hour more... Now remember, I didn't say one is AT NGC did!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Since #4 is winning by a wide margin, it's probably not the one that got bodybagged. image

    Russ, NCNE
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    robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll give it about an hour more... Now remember, I didn't say one is AT NGC did! >>



    Well if NGC made the call then we know it's correct.
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,943 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I went with #4 because I liked it the best and it looks so natural.

    Either the lighting's funny or it's shinier than the others.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    JustGotRippedJustGotRipped Posts: 399
    Ill say number 3 was BB'd
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've selected coin number two as being bodybagged since the colors on the other three start with dark edges and graduate to lighter colors until the coin gets a "golden orange" hue in the center. Coin number two looks like neon purple at the center of the toning. So there's my guess and my reasoning, Marty.


    I still have a hard time thinking any are natural.

    Joe

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    GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    #4 looks phony
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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Marty: The toning patterns and color palette for these 4 Morgans appears to be very similar.

    I'll be a bit different from the majority and say that coin #3 is the coin that NGC designated as AT, because the toning pattern on the reverse appears to conform with the lower contours of the coin inside of the wreath -- as if a liquid had settled there and colored that portion of the coin.

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I voted for 4
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    NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    #4
    Don

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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mine is a guess, at best, of #4 because of that electric purple color.
    I hope to learn a lesson. Thanks.

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

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    garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    I'm a little bit a fraid of all 4 of them; none of them seem NT but pictures can be misleading. Your lighting is causing a hot spot that could be making the coin color look off.
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    Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would need to see them in person, but number 3 looks funky!
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    TonedCoinTraderTonedCoinTrader Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭
    I vote # 3 due to the Funky Blue color.







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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Results are up, damn you guys are good.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it too late to guess?
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    onthespotonthespot Posts: 165 ✭
    i may not be right but my guess was the same as NGC, woo hoo!
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    hootchiegirlhootchiegirl Posts: 222
    how do I view the results
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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>how do I view the results >>



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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,781 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>how do I view the results >>



    Check out page 1, at the top where this thread began.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well when you submit coins under the name of Art Toning you should expect a higher than normal number to get BB'd. Next time use smoething less noticeable like Mel A. Tonin
    theknowitalltroll;
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    Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    MadMarty seys: Results are up, damn you guys are good.

    I agree. Some folks on this board can actually spot AT when they see it. Imagine that. I'm surprised coins #1 & #3 got so many votes for AT because they look typical O mint tone to me. I narrowed it down to #2 & #4 and picked #4 because it looked less original than #2 did. Out of the 101 people that actually had an opinion twice as many were correct than were wrong.
    68.32% were right
    31.68% were wrong

    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post MadMarty! Thanks

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

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