This poll really should have been "Can you tell which coin that came from the same source was bodybagged by NGC while they holdered the other three coins?"
#1. I don't think that one can really pick the rejected coin from photographs. One needs to see them in person.
#2. I tend to agree with Russ. I think all four coins are probably AT. I don't care for the toning patterns on any of them. Quite often natual toning is darker toward the outside of the coin and gets lighter toward the center. There is just something that is not real about these pieces.
#3. If you twist my arm, I voted that #4 got the boot.
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<< <i>Looks like the same coin at different angles...... >>
Can't be the same coin. Coins #1 & #3 are O mints, and the mint marks do not appear to be at the same position. Coins #2 & #4 have no mint marks, and I don't see any marks to indicate they are the same coin.
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I've selected coin number two as being bodybagged since the colors on the other three start with dark edges and graduate to lighter colors until the coin gets a "golden orange" hue in the center. Coin number two looks like neon purple at the center of the toning. So there's my guess and my reasoning, Marty.
I still have a hard time thinking any are natural.
Marty: The toning patterns and color palette for these 4 Morgans appears to be very similar.
I'll be a bit different from the majority and say that coin #3 is the coin that NGC designated as AT, because the toning pattern on the reverse appears to conform with the lower contours of the coin inside of the wreath -- as if a liquid had settled there and colored that portion of the coin.
Stuart
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I'm a little bit a fraid of all 4 of them; none of them seem NT but pictures can be misleading. Your lighting is causing a hot spot that could be making the coin color look off.
Check out page 1, at the top where this thread began.
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Well when you submit coins under the name of Art Toning you should expect a higher than normal number to get BB'd. Next time use smoething less noticeable like Mel A. Tonin
MadMarty seys: Results are up, damn you guys are good.
I agree. Some folks on this board can actually spot AT when they see it. Imagine that. I'm surprised coins #1 & #3 got so many votes for AT because they look typical O mint tone to me. I narrowed it down to #2 & #4 and picked #4 because it looked less original than #2 did. Out of the 101 people that actually had an opinion twice as many were correct than were wrong. 68.32% were right 31.68% were wrong
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Russ, NCNE
<< <i>They're all AT.
Russ, NCNE >>
Nope three of them are in holders.
<< <i><< They're all AT.
Russ, NCNE >>
Nope three of them are in holders. >>
Good thing AT coins never get in holders.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>They're all AT.
Russ, NCNE >>
Nope three of them are in holders. >>
That sure instills pure confidence.....
<< <i>Good thing coins are never AT'd in holders.
Russ, NCNE >>
Russ, NCNE
Each one looks like handiwork to me.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Good thing AT coins never get in holders. >>
#2. I tend to agree with Russ. I think all four coins are probably AT. I don't care for the toning patterns on any of them. Quite often natual toning is darker toward the outside of the coin and gets lighter toward the center. There is just something that is not real about these pieces.
#3. If you twist my arm, I voted that #4 got the boot.
Don
<< <i>Looks like the same coin at different angles...... >>
That would be HILLARIOUS But two have an O mint mark and two are plain .... I also see different cracks on them. T'would have been funny though!
Semper ubi sub ubi
<< <i>Looks like the same coin at different angles...... >>
Can't be the same coin. Coins #1 & #3 are O mints, and the mint marks do not appear to be at the same position. Coins #2 & #4 have no mint marks, and I don't see any marks to indicate they are the same coin.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>I'll give it about an hour more... Now remember, I didn't say one is AT NGC did! >>
Well if NGC made the call then we know it's correct.
Either the lighting's funny or it's shinier than the others.
I still have a hard time thinking any are natural.
Joe
I'll be a bit different from the majority and say that coin #3 is the coin that NGC designated as AT, because the toning pattern on the reverse appears to conform with the lower contours of the coin inside of the wreath -- as if a liquid had settled there and colored that portion of the coin.
Stuart
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<< <i>how do I view the results >>
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<< <i>how do I view the results >>
Check out page 1, at the top where this thread began.
I agree. Some folks on this board can actually spot AT when they see it. Imagine that. I'm surprised coins #1 & #3 got so many votes for AT because they look typical O mint tone to me. I narrowed it down to #2 & #4 and picked #4 because it looked less original than #2 did. Out of the 101 people that actually had an opinion twice as many were correct than were wrong.
68.32% were right
31.68% were wrong
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