Would you buy a coin you absolutely have to have from a dealer or person you completely despise?

Gator5220 · August 28, 2006 2:01AM

Could you put aside your personal feelings and complete a business transaction?

RYK · August 28, 2006 2:03AM

It really depends on how much I want the coin, when would be the next opportunity, and how much I dislike the seller. I do not believe in absolutes.

Clankeye · August 28, 2006 2:04AM

Thankfully, there is no coin I "absolutely have to have."

TUMUSS · August 28, 2006 2:04AM

No.

OKbustchaser · August 28, 2006 2:06AM

If it is the right coin for the right price, of course I would. Why wouldn't anyone?

Edited to add...On the other hand, if I disliked a person that much then the changes of me even knowing that he had said coin are very slim.

Fairlaneman · August 28, 2006 2:06AM

Despise is a very strong word. Fifty nine years has only produced one person that fits this description. Would I buy from him ? Absolutely "NOT".

PerryHall · August 28, 2006 2:07AM

If I liked the coin and the price was right, I'd buy it from the devil himself. Its just a business transaction and its not like I'm going out on a date with this dealer.

PhillyJoe · August 28, 2006 2:09AM

If he/she has what I want, business is business.

Joe

Coxe · August 28, 2006 2:11AM

There are very few people that would fit into such a categorey, even fewer that I wouldn't give a second chance to. But if there was such a person, say a rabid anti-Semite, I would absolutely not do business with him/her even if the coin was the only one I needed for my set and it was unique.

mrearlygold · August 28, 2006 2:13AM

No. And that means collectors as well.

( edited to add "or sell to" )

TwoKopeiki · August 28, 2006 2:15AM

<< If he/she has what I want, business is business.

Joe >>

Leiana · August 28, 2006 2:17AM

I haven't been around very long, but I'm sure I would think twice about dealing with a character who rips old ladies or knowingly sells messed with coins for a profit. I would probably not find anything I liked in his/her inventory, anyways.

-Amanda

InYHWHWeTrust · August 28, 2006 2:19AM

<< ... I do not believe in absolutes. >>

That statement is an absolute, it is therefore, ... self-defeating

(are you absolutely sure about that?)

MFH · August 28, 2006 2:23AM

<< Thankfully, there is no coin I "absolutely have to have." >>

...and more thankfully, there isn't any dealer I despise

frankieboywonder · August 28, 2006 2:30AM

Yes. I would temporarily swallow my vast pride and conclude the transaction, then.........................on the way home cackle to myself that I have the coin now and not him!

Longacre · August 28, 2006 2:36AM

Have someone buy it on your behalf.

saintguru · August 28, 2006 2:38AM

NO!

There is one person/dealer who I will never deal with again. I don't care what coin he may have.

Barry · August 28, 2006 2:39AM

No

KentuckyJ · August 28, 2006 2:41AM

No.

dizzyfoxx · August 28, 2006 2:50AM

Yes. I compare this analogy to whether I would sell a coin to someone I don't care for, for the price I'm looking for. The answer to that is, of course.

Trime · August 28, 2006 3:33AM

I despise few people but I do not do business with people I do not trust.

lkenefic · August 28, 2006 4:13AM

I think like most things...it depends on the coin and how much money is being asked. Seriously, it's not like I'm asking this person out for dinner and dancing. Once money and merchandise exchanges hands...we're through. Is this person I despise going to check up on me and the coin at a future date??

Leo

notwilight · August 28, 2006 4:19AM

<< Could you put aside your personal feelings and complete a business transaction?

>>

If you can't, then is isn't just a business transaction. This is why people have problems in divorce. Divorce moves to a strictly business phase. If you hang on to the emotional phase, no business gets done. --Jerry

Gator5220 · August 28, 2006 4:21AM

<< Is this person I despise going to check up on me and the coin at a future date??

Leo >>

No. You each go your separate ways, never to see each other again.

Colorfulcoins · August 28, 2006 4:22AM

Buy the coin, not the dealer.

Outhaul · August 28, 2006 4:23AM

No

Coxe · August 28, 2006 4:42AM

<< Buy the coin, not the dealer. >>

What if you know the $$$ you give the dealer are going to the KKK general fund or Hamas?

Veep · August 28, 2006 4:53AM

Absolutely not. My principles are MINE. Sometimes principles come with a little discomfort. At the end of the day, I am who I am and my principles are part of that.

Russ · August 28, 2006 4:57AM

It would depend on why I despised them. If I despised them because they were a scumbag rip-off con artist or other sub-human POS, no I wouldn't. If I despised them simply because, for example, they were a liberal, sure I'd buy.

Russ, NCNE

Gemineye · August 28, 2006 5:03AM

<< It would depend on why I despised them. If I despised them because they were a scumbag rip-off con artist or other sub-human POS, no I wouldn't. If I despised them simply because, for example, they were a liberal, sure I'd buy.

Russ, NCNE >>

Wow...... it seems that being a liberal is an accomlishment..........

tjkillian · August 28, 2006 5:34AM

No.

Tom

ABC123 · August 28, 2006 5:35AM

Depends on the coin, and depends on the price. All things being equal, a definite Maybe !

saintguru · August 28, 2006 5:55AM

The guy I am referring to is a scumbag, reneging, squeeze you after a deal is done POS.

That's how I feel. Pheeeew!

Ricke · August 28, 2006 6:02AM

it would depend on why I disliked the person.

If it were due to the way the person conducts their business or numismatics, I probably would not.

jpkinla · August 28, 2006 6:03AM

SG,

Do I sense some hostility here?

saintguru · August 28, 2006 6:04AM

<< SG,

Do I sense some hostility here?

>>

Nah.....it's just the smell of burnt offerings and voodoo oil. ;D

Shamika · August 28, 2006 6:05AM

<< Would you buy a coin you absolutely have to have from a dealer or person you completely despise? >>

If I have to have it, then I have to have it.

stman · August 28, 2006 6:42AM

Nope, and I've not sold a coin to someone for this reason as well. Money is just not the object sometimes. Hard to believe, but it can be true.
And, I've actually sold a coin to someone I like to deal with for less than I could have got from the person/persons I don't care to transact with.
It's all about choices.

rainbowroosie · August 28, 2006 6:44AM

done it

ANACONDA · August 28, 2006 6:44AM

Great thread. Personally, I avoid certain dealers. But if it came to my attention that they had a coin I wanted at a price I was willing to pay, I'd probably bite my lip and buy the coin from him unless I thought the coin might be stolen or if I believed the dealer might not deliver the coin.

cho10 · August 28, 2006 6:52AM

<< Great thread. Personally, I avoid certain dealers. But if it came to my attention that they had a coin I wanted at a price I was willing to pay, I'd probably bite my lip and buy the coin from him unless I thought the coin might be stolen or if I believed the dealer might not deliver the coin. >>

MICHAELDIXON · August 28, 2006 6:54AM

Years ago (1976-1977) I was doing my first show. I asked the dealers if they had anything they couldn't move that I might make a few dollars on. One guy had 80 bust halves. He said a dealer on the other side of the floor had an order for a large amount, but he wouldn't sell the SOB anything because he disliked him. He sold me the 80 bust halves and I walked them to the other dealer and make some money. But...if I don't like somebody I won't deal with them.

robertpr · August 28, 2006 7:08AM

Critical thinking is essential in business, and anyone who tells you the coin hobby is anything BUT a business is being dishonest. With that being said, emotion clearly clouds critical thinking.

As an aside, many folks confuse disliking someone with distrusting them. Distrust can be an ally in making good decisions, while dislike is an enemy of rational emotionless thought.

lkenefic · August 28, 2006 7:41AM

<< 

<< Buy the coin, not the dealer. >>

What if you know the $$$ you give the dealer are going to the KKK general fund or Hamas? >>

But how would you know this from walking into a coin shop or dealing with someone online unless thay had the Nazi flag prominently displayed or pictures of "Osama as a saint" next to the cash register? If they did..I would probably run the other way...

1921obsession · August 28, 2006 10:01AM

Of course I would. I don't do "despise," or even "hate," because they're destructive emotions which only interfere with personal progress. I don't "hate" anyone, nor will I ever. Business is business. If I relieve a known scammer of a coin, it will have been on terms which are favorable to me and unfavorable to him relative to the potential profit he could have made, just like any other purchase I make. There's a certain victory in that. The only absolute for me is paying market price for a coin, something I'm unlikely to do unless I've mis-estimated the market value.

I consider the possibility of "knowing the money is going to Hamas" or something like that to be fatuous, because such information, being known, would have ended the dealer's business anyways.

elwood · August 28, 2006 10:10AM

There's no coin I "absolutely have to have".

BAJJERFAN · August 28, 2006 10:41AM

Would you buy a coin from these "guys"?

Lakesammman · August 28, 2006 11:13AM

I'd get a third party to deal for me.

RBinTex · August 28, 2006 11:15AM

Perfect thread for a poll.

majorbigtime · August 28, 2006 11:48AM

I've bought a few coins from slimeballs over the years--the coins don't know the difference!

XXX · August 28, 2006 12:06PM

"Buy the coin, not the seller/dealer.........."

Like I wouldn't buy a top pop from a jerk if I needed/wanted it,....give me a break. I'm in construction and deal with the bottom & the top of the barrel on a daily basis.

Would that be a YES? Maybe I need somemore sensitivity sesssions.

Would you buy a coin you absolutely have to have from a dealer or person you completely despise?

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