Problem with a dealer. I will update you all when I am able to. Thanks!

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goose3
goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
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what would you do if you bought this ANACS AG3 and you were told it had Absolutely NO scratches or digs and then were refused a refund?

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  • MrEureka
    MrEureka Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • mrearlygold
    mrearlygold Posts: 17,862 ✭✭✭
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    Coin's for sale/trade.


    Tom Pilitowski
    US Rare Coin Investments
    800-624-1870

  • OffMetal
    OffMetal Posts: 1,684 ✭
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    image Hope everything works out for you...



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    Wow, you two really had a lot to say image
    -Ben T. * Collector of Errors! * Proud member of the CUFYNA
  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    Russ, NCNE
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  • DennisH
    DennisH Posts: 14,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Would somebody please explain to me what Andy and Tom are saying?
    When in doubt, don't.
  • coinlieutenant
    coinlieutenant Posts: 9,328 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    bum deal Goose. I will make a note however.

    J

    siliconvalleycoins.com

  • OffMetal
    OffMetal Posts: 1,684 ✭
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    << <i>Would somebody please explain to me what Andy and Tom are saying? >>



    They are getting dibs on first page image

    -Ben T. * Collector of Errors! * Proud member of the CUFYNA
  • goose3
    goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
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    If anyone is familiar with him and happens to know if he shares a table or anything like that at Baltimore shows.....please let me know.image
  • Petescorner
    Petescorner Posts: 1,220 ✭✭
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    The guy offers you a refund privilege before you agree to the deal and now he won't honor it? Sounds like someone worth avoiding from now on, to me.
  • BAJJERFAN
    BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>...the ones I saw were. I missed another sale on that coin whereby I could have gotten more... >>



    Then ask him to take it back and sell it to the other buyer; IF there ever was one.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • stman
    stman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>stman canned response >>



    Before I comment I need to know if the seller is a "respected" board member. It DOES matter ya know!!
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • clw54
    clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
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    How could that guy spot the circles and not the scratch?
  • Barry
    Barry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
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    Point him to this thread and if he's lucky, he'll realize he was in the wrong and will now do the right thing, before his reputation is shot.

    And if that doesn't work, if he's an ANA member, file a grievance.
  • pontiacinf
    pontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
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    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • ABC123
    ABC123 Posts: 2,627
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    Negative Feed-back !!!
  • StrikeOutXXX
    StrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Edited per request.
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    "You Suck Award" - February, 2015

    Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
  • ziggy29
    ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>Negative Feed-back !!! >>

    It didn't sell on eBay. Nevertheless, the feedback and his responses to it would have given me pause to think, most likely.
  • VamGuy
    VamGuy Posts: 1,624 ✭
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    Doesn't ANACS have some sort of guarantee?

    I mean, wouldn't that be the next step since this guy told you to go pound sand?
    PCGS, ANACS, & NGC Certified Coins on Ebay.

    PCGS, ANACS, & NGC Certified Coins on My Website.
  • Msb94
    Msb94 Posts: 129
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    Agree with BAJJERFAN....have him sell the piece to the "other buyer" if there was oneimage
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  • Myqqy
    Myqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
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    World class dickitry- and why did mr eureka edit out his lame response about just keeping the coin?? image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • majorbigtime
    majorbigtime Posts: 2,937 ✭
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    Post the issue here (done), neg him and sue!!
  • ziggy29
    ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>Post the issue here (done), neg him and sue!! >>

    It was not sold on eBay.
  • MrEureka
    MrEureka Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    why did mr eureka edit out his lame response about just keeping the coin??

    Maybe because it was lame? Nah, that would be too obvious. There must be some sinister plot brewing...
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • majorbigtime
    majorbigtime Posts: 2,937 ✭
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    << <i>

    << <i>Post the issue here (done), neg him and sue!! >>

    It was not sold on eBay. >>



    Then go for 2 out of 3
  • Whizzard
    Whizzard Posts: 955
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    Another dishonest dealer, blocked....
    What do you think, Mr. Bigglesworth?
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  • Myqqy
    Myqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
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    There must be some sinister plot brewing...

    Of course!! Damn, I wish I had spotted it earlier..... image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • Fletcher
    Fletcher Posts: 3,294 ✭
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    Just be happy you received your coin at all ... the last time I bought from a board member I paid for the coin instantly and didn't receive a damn thing image

  • CarlWohlforth
    CarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
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    <Before I comment I need to know if the seller is a "respected" board member. It DOES matter ya know!!>

    Naw, doesn't matter to me. The guy's negatives seem unprofessional to me. And having below %99 pos is bad. He is going back on a deal so is obviously not a man of his word. I'll call it that way regardless if he is a board member or not.

    I sure hope he rethinks his position. Who wants to be known as a guy who can't keep his word? Anyway I'd like to know if he does take a table at show.. Anybody?
    Carl's Coins website w/ links to Carl's auctions
  • greghansen
    greghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
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    A return privilige should be honored. That scratch is really nasty IMO. That one should be going back, and if he agreed to an inspection, he shouldn't be giving you a hard time about taking it back. If he thinks it is such a beauty, he should have no trouble moving it.

    Greg Hansen, Melbourne, FL Click here for any current EBAY auctions Multiple "Circle of Trust" transactions over 14 years on forum

  • RYK
    RYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sorry about your experience, John.

    This dealer is a jagoff (saw that word here recently for the first time since leaving Pittsburgh at age 18 image ) to be avoided by knowledgeable collectors and dealers...unless, of course, he joins our forum. image
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • rec78
    rec78 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I missed another sale on that coin whereby I could have gotten more.
    He is a liar. This statement alone says it. Name one dealer (or anyone for that matter) who will not buy a coin back if they can get more for it? My guess is that he had it for some time and deecided to unload it. JMHO. Bob
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  • Petarded
    Petarded Posts: 406
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    Goose...hunt him down like the dog that he is...take him to the woodshed....meet him on the playground at 3pm after school lets out......you know what I mean...what a POS!
  • Bryan1315
    Bryan1315 Posts: 579
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    This guys shop is not too far from me but I have never been in that part of town or seen his shop but I have definately heard about how much of a smart A$$ he is with his customers, so I never even took the time to go there. Glad I now know who he is on ebay so I can avoid him
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  • majorbigtime
    majorbigtime Posts: 2,937 ✭
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    << <i> My guess is that he had it for some time and deecided to unload it. >>



    Yeah, it's called sticking it to you.
  • bigMACnoCheese
    bigMACnoCheese Posts: 110
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    How did you pay for it?
    Check?
    Paypal?
    Credit card?

    Reverse the charges...
    then when he screams, send it back ...

    You have choices as long as you did not send cash..

    You have emails saying he would honor the return and those can be used to present your position to your credit card company.

    Even if you paid by paypal and they won't reverse it, go staright to the bank issuing the card and they will pull the rug out from under paypal, pay pal will then reverse it on their side to get their money back..

    This works. I have done it once when paypay wouldn't make a move..

    John
  • goose3
    goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
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    Lustig and Mrearlygold if you have something to say, post it. Or if it's so great, why don't you buy it from me Andy since apparently you initially thought I should keep it.

    I forgot.....it's taboo around here to associate a dealer with anything negative. We collectors are supposed to take this sort of crap, right?



    Fletcher,
    Don't get me started with your BS. I can't believe you are STILL whining.

  • Fletcher
    Fletcher Posts: 3,294 ✭
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    << <i>Fletcher,
    Don't get me started with your BS. I can't believe you are STILL whining. >>



    Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Funny how when you complain about a crappy transaction with dealer that isn't a regular here everyone jumps on the bandwagon with you. And, when you complain about a crappy transaction with a dealer that everyone knows, the weak minded masses try to turn it around and make it the buyers fault. I love the hipocrisy.

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  • goose3
    goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
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    . my thread has nothing to do with your whining ass crybaby thread.

    I thought you were leaving YET AGAIN. You should have learned the last time you tried to dance with me that I bite.

    Now pissoff before you make even more of an ass of yourself.....if that's possible.
  • Fletcher
    Fletcher Posts: 3,294 ✭
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    Lol ... let's dance image
  • stman
    stman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>I forgot.....it's taboo around here to associate a dealer with anything negative. We collectors are supposed to take this sort of crap, right? >>



    I've wondered this myself. Please lemme know what ya find out on this.
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • Fletcher
    Fletcher Posts: 3,294 ✭
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    << <i>I forgot.....it's taboo around here to associate a dealer with anything negative. We collectors are supposed to take this sort of crap, right?. >>



    Lol ... exactly image
  • MrEureka
    MrEureka Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lustig and Mrearlygold if you have something to say, post it. Or if it's so great, why don't you buy it from me Andy since apparently you initially thought I should keep it.

    I forgot.....it's taboo around here to associate a dealer with anything negative. We collectors are supposed to take this sort of crap, right?

    Goose - I never suggested that you keep the coin. You asked what WE would do. I said that I would back off and take a short loss because it's not worth getting into a pissing contest over a small loss. However, if you had asked what we thought YOU should do, I would have advised you to rage on, since you seem to live for this cra*p.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • Shamika
    Shamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
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    How is it this ass-clown didn't see those stable scratches???

    BLOCKED!!!

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • goose3
    goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
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    Ah yes....

    I live for it.

    What I live for is to be treated properly in a transaction and to not have someone(whether a dealer or collector) not try and pull stuff like this on me.

    I guess it's too much to expect a bit of honesty and for someone's word to actually mean something these days.


    I don't take kindly to being treated otherwise.


    I guess I should just eliminate coins and start handing out money to people if they wish to lie to me and go back on their word. That'd be simple I'm sure.
  • ILikeMercs
    ILikeMercs Posts: 1,392 ✭
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    yep, smart a$$ remarks in feedback means an instant NO DEAL for me.
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  • majorbigtime
    majorbigtime Posts: 2,937 ✭
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    << <i>Ah yes....

    I live for it.

    What I live for is to be treated properly in a transaction and to not have someone(whether a dealer or collector) not try and pull stuff like this on me.

    I guess it's too much to expect a bit of honesty and for someone's word to actually mean something these days.


    I don't take kindly to being treated otherwise.


    I guess I should just eliminate coins and start handing out money to people if they wish to lie to me and go back on their word. That'd be simple I'm sure. >>







    Been there, done that--Like our ex Prez sez " I feel your pain"
  • MrEureka
    MrEureka Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What I live for is to be treated properly in a transaction and to not have someone(whether a dealer or collector) not try and pull stuff like this on me.

    Then spend your time and energy seeking out people who will treat you properly and stick with them. Every moment spent agonizing over your disappointments will only distract you from "what you live for". Right?
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • morgannut2
    morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
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    I'd just reverse any credit card or other charges. I wouldn't be that upset about a slide mark on an AG coin, because most of them have them. But if you'all agreed to a return--then he should honor it.
    morgannut2
  • Gemini
    Gemini Posts: 3,085 ✭
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    "man you are one picky guy! Are you using a 20X loupe or something?"

    I guess we all must have super vision.image
    A thing of beauty is a joy for ever
  • Numismanic
    Numismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>I said that I would back off and take a short loss because it's not worth getting into a pissing contest over a small loss. >>



    What constitututes a small loss?, not all of us collectors are millionaires. Ethics doesn't have a price! image
    Don

    U.S. Nickels Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes

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