RYK: Morgans do NOT suck !!!

Sunnywood · June 21, 2006 10:14AM

In response to a comment in the Legend auction thread ...

For those of you who think Morgans suck, please visit my Registry set and look at the photos, and then tell me if you still think Morgans suck:

Somewhere Over the Rainbow Toned Morgans

It's still a work in progress ... but it starts with this 1878 8TF PCGS MS66:

Best,
Sunnywood

Russ · June 21, 2006 10:15AM

Yes, they do.

(Except for the one in my sigline).

Russ, NCNE

FatMan · June 21, 2006 10:16AM

We need a poll.

Sunnywood · June 21, 2006 10:18AM

Polls suck.

Russ, when you show me an "accented hair" Kennedy half that looks like my 1878 8TF, I might buy it.
Otherwise, be advised that accented hair Kennedys suck !!!

Sunnywood

P.S. Russ, in the amount of time it took you to reply (one minute, no wonder you have 47000+ posts !!!), I can tell that you did NOT visit my set and look a the photos. Tsk tsk !!!

RYK · June 21, 2006 10:20AM

Sunnywood,

Your Morgans don't suck. Everyone else's Morgans do suck, except for the coin in Russ' sigline. I think FatMan also has a box of non-sucking Morgans, come to think of it.

RYK

Sunnywood · June 21, 2006 10:22AM

Thanks RYK !!!! I feel much better now that we've set the record straight !!!!

Best,
Sunnywood

FatMan · June 21, 2006 10:23AM

<< I think FatMan also has a box of non-sucking Morgans, come to think of it. >>

Nope, they pretty much suck too.

TONEDDOLLARS · June 21, 2006 10:32AM

RYK. I do not think my TONEDDOLLARS suck either, feel free to check out my set @ NGC and see if Their are at least two sets of Morgans that do not suck,

Russ · June 21, 2006 10:32AM

HOLY CRAP! Anybody who hasn't done so, REALLY needs to check out Sunnywood's set!

Russ, NCNE

Myqqy · June 21, 2006 10:34AM

The only time morgans suck is when they're dipped to hell and back.... otherwise, they are entirely non-sucky....

TONEDDOLLARS · June 21, 2006 10:35AM

Sunnywoods set is a mind blower.

RYK · June 21, 2006 10:36AM

TD,

I agree. There are quite few coins in your toned Morgan collection that do not suck. i will add you to the list of non-suckers, if you will.

Full disclosure: My son (seven years old) is an enthusiast and budding collector of toned Morgans, and because he is my son, his collection does not suck.

Sunnywood · June 21, 2006 10:37AM

hehehehe thanks Russ !!!!

My friend toneddollars' sets are *awesome* too !!!!

Hey I forgot to menrtion my duplicates LOL, but they're only a 50% complete set ...

Duplicates from the "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" Collection

Here's an 1888-S from the duplicates:

Best,
Sunnywood

TONEDDOLLARS · June 21, 2006 10:38AM

RYK, there you go, that list is growing.

sweetwilliet · June 21, 2006 10:40AM

I think that all sucky Morgans gravitate to my collection, so they are off the market and should leave everyone else with plenty of non-sucky Morgans to collect. I also have a few non-sucky (dmpl) Morgans, but they are few and far between.

dwssws · June 21, 2006 11:01AM

I agree Sunnywood's and TonedDollars sets do NOT suck but in comparison I guess mine do

lava · June 21, 2006 11:08AM

I'd like to think my Morgans don't suck, as I have nearly an entire set in pl or dmpl, and they are top notch, if you are in to eye appeal.

lkenefic · June 21, 2006 11:13AM

...of course Morgans suck...that's why everyone else should stop buying them...harhar...

CTcollector · June 21, 2006 11:14AM

Well Sunnywood - I guess we can safely say YOUR Morgans are the exception to the rule ! Your set is absolutely awesome. You've got a great eye !

Sunnywood · June 21, 2006 11:16AM

dwssws & lava, I'm sure your sets do NOT suck !!!

Anything that makes you happy to collect definitely does not suck !!!!

(holy smokes, when did the dropdown list of emoticons get so long !!!)

Sunnywood

P.S. Thanks CTCollector !!!!!!

TorinoCobra71 · June 21, 2006 11:18AM

<< Yes, they do.

(Except for the one in my sigline).

Russ, NCNE >>

NO THEY DONT!

TorinoCobra71

FatMan · June 21, 2006 11:21AM

OK, I'll admit that my Morgans don't totally suck. But they certainly do suck compared to Sunnywood's set. WOW!

TONEDDOLLARS · June 21, 2006 11:23AM

And the list grows and grows, maybe Morgans don'i suck after all. Nice sets guys

coindeuce · June 21, 2006 11:31AM

The only thing sucky about that monster 8TF is that there are two sides to the coin...pics maybe? BTW, do you know what VAM ya got there?

dwssws · June 21, 2006 11:35AM

<< BTW, do you know what VAM ya got there? >>

I was wondering the same thing!

Sunnywood you are right my set doesn't suck and it does bring me enjoyment!

But yours and TonedDollars are amazing!

IGWT · June 21, 2006 11:38AM

-- "BTW, do you know what VAM ya got there?" --

After what Sunnywood did with Shields -- the indisputable king of series for die varieties -- I can't see how VAMs would hold much interest.

coindeuce · June 21, 2006 11:42AM

I'll remember that when my 8TF set reaches the 250K mark in fair market.

CarlWohlforth · June 21, 2006 11:53AM

Nice set! Thanks for pointing it out. You have good taste.

Coxe · June 21, 2006 12:09PM

No, Morgans do not suck. However, Morgan cherrypickers often do suck bigtime.

Sunnywood · June 21, 2006 12:23PM

coindeuce ... because my set is focused on coins with obverse toning, I decided to upload larger pics of the obverse for each coin in my set, rather than a lesser quality pic of both sides. Ideally, I wish I could upload more than 100KB, because the 100KB limit doesn't allow for the kind of pics I would like to put up there !!!

As for the VAMs, IGWT is right. When I assembled my shield nickel collection, which included complete sets of high grade MS coins (except for the 1880 coins which were AU58, but that's a subject for a whole book), white and rainbow proofs; selected patterns; Cherrypicker die varieties; and even a few errors ... I really got deep into the world of the die varieties. But in the shield nickel series, they are quite dramatic !! There are triple and quadruple punched dates, widely spaced DDO's and even TDO's, and much more. After the shield nickels, I think I was burned out in terms of analyzing die varieties. Besides, the challenge of assembling a complete set of toned Morgans was a high enough mountain to climb, without worrying about VAM's.

So, short answer to your question: I have no idea what VAM the 8TF is. But for anyone is interested, here is the whole deal - maybe one of you can figure out the VAM !!

coindeuce · June 22, 2006 1:44AM

Sunnywood, thanks for adding the pic of the reverse. I'm 99% certain that it is VAM 17* (II/I-4 obverse. A1f reverse).

*Although the obverse die II/I-4 is unique to VAM 17, the A1f reverse die is common to several other marriages(VAMS 12, 16) which are all considered common by survival. VAM 17 is one of the most common 8TF die mariages, with the exception to that being early strikes which may exhibit PL or DMPL surfaces on one or both sides. A two sided DMPL VAM 17 would be considered exceedingly rare to VAM specialists.

Sunnywood · June 22, 2006 2:12AM

Oh well, being a typical coin collector, I was hoping it would be a RARE variety !!! LOL

Thanks for the attribution coindeuce !!

Sunnywood

mgoodm3 · June 22, 2006 2:16AM

Ok, let's break up this love-fest and get back to the flaming.

eyoung429 · June 22, 2006 2:22AM

<< Sunnywood,

Your Morgans don't suck. Everyone else's Morgans do suck, except for the coin in Russ' sigline. I think FatMan also has a box of non-sucking Morgans, come to think of it.

RYK

>>

Thanks.....even though some of us consider gold to only be bullion

MajorDuty · June 22, 2006 2:28AM

This is like a Ford vs. Chevy argument.

coingame2000 · June 22, 2006 2:56AM

I'm with Sunnywood and TONEDDOLLARS -- Morgans do NOT suck, see for yourself!!!

MORGAN LINKY

And a few more just for good measure...

MORE MORGANS

Mikey

Hoot · June 22, 2006 2:56AM

<< Sunnywoods set is a mind blower. >>

Wouldn't that be a mind sucker?

Hoot

TONEDDOLLARS · June 22, 2006 6:44AM

It would if I did not like Morgans

poorguy · June 22, 2006 6:57AM

<< I'm with Sunnywood and TONEDDOLLARS -- Morgans do NOT suck, see for yourself!!!

MORGAN LINKY

And a few more just for good measure...

MORE MORGANS

Mikey

>>

Mike,

Do you think it is in good taste for you to link directly to your website's inventory in a post like this? Having a link in the sig-line is acceptible but I am not so sure about this.

bestclser1 · June 22, 2006 9:56AM

Oh i have a couple that dont suck too.

How many you want?

Say what?

Got boxes like this maybe?

Making Sunnywood and Tonedollars point yet/

Oh heck,one more 67.

dwssws · June 22, 2006 10:24AM

Bestclser1 yours do not suck either

those are beautiful

RYK · June 22, 2006 10:55AM

I must compliment the Morgan supporters (led by Sunnywood) for handling my remark in the spirit in which it was intended. If I had said, "Moderns suck," the jihad would go into full strike mode, and I would have to sleep in a different location every night and worry about car bombs and arsenic-laced Dahlonega slabs (until the next poor stooge made an anti-Modern comment here).

RYK: Morgans do NOT suck !!!

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