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I need your help! I thought this coin was very cool and I need your opinion!! UPDATE!

MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
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Sometimes you see a coin that just says BUY ME!, I'm different. I have seen plenty of Columbian Halves, but this one has Cameo! The fields are mirror like (the photo doesn't pick them up well). I would love your opinion on the coin!! Did I buy a winner, or screw the pooch?

Well the coin is now at NGC, talked to Rick this morning and the coin is not a proof. It will slab and should be done next week!!


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It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    I'll hold Fifi for you image

    It's a nice coin I saw a few of these here in Atl.. Is there any toning on it besides the rim?
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    That is one HELL of a reverse strike!!!!

    Russ, NCNE
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I have seen plenty of Columbians, but look at the detail on the ship!

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    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>but look at the detail on the ship! >>



    I already said that, gomer.

    Russ, NCNE
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    TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    They should have a full sail lines designation for this coin image
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    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭
    image Far from an expert but I do know a "WOW" coin when I see one.image Looks like you have something special here Marty!!!!!!
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Get your hands on a copy of Labstain's "Certified Commemorative Coins". Covers all of the early Half Commems. My recollection is that there actually was a very small issue of Proofs of this. Found it... p.122: "A small number of certified commems have been designated as P/L on their holders by NGC(PCGS does not denote this for commems). " "...27 of the 144 issues have P/L/ examples and , of these, only nine have had more than ten pieces graded." "Three issues-1892 and 1893 Columbian Expositions and New Rochelle have had more P/L/'s certified than all others combined." Obviously most P/L commems are very scarce."

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    FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭
    MadOne, there were about 100 proofs struck. That strike is hammered and similar to the one other proof I have seen. I do not know any specific diagnostics for the proof other than they used different planchets and were struck twice. With that said, there are many PL Cameo regular strikes too. It is very hard to get one of these in a proof holder, but yours clearly appears at least PL.
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll hold Fifi for you image

    It's a nice coin I saw a few of these here in Atl.. Is there any toning on it besides the rim? >>



    Just on the rim.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭
    Looks awesome to me!!!
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    jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
    That is a very nice example!! Please keep me posted on what grade you get!! image


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    KISHU1KISHU1 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭
    Winner! Looks like a proof to me.image
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    ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a coin that has a 'pop' to it. but look at the detail on the ship! I could almost see Jimmy and the Coral Reefers partying away on it!
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    CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
    It is terrible. Definately not a proof. Wasn't there someone here who swore they had a proof? The services disagreed.

    Now, just PM me your price and I'm a buyer. I'm just trying to help and get this artifically frosted POS off the market...


    (think anybody will believe me? i don't)

    Hey Marty - I am a serious buyer if you are a seller! I think it is a neat coin.
    Carl's Coins website w/ links to Carl's auctions
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    Did you pay strong money for it, or did someone let you walk away with it? image
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey Marty- that is a nice coin. I have never seen one of these guys in a proof, although I have also heard that they are as sharp as this one. Sure looks PL and I would put more than 50/50 odds that this one may go Pr 63CAM
    I sure hope so.image
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    I say you did well. I'd be worried about overdipping, but provided there's more luster than is showing in the MartyVision photo, it looks to be a superb coin...Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    The luster is there under the haze! I like it!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    BubbleheadBubblehead Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭

    Awesome, just awesome....image
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    rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    I like it!!!image
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    SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    one heck of a Colombian, Mega PL very very nice example
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    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭
    Dennis at JadeRareCoin may have something to add to this one.image
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dennis at JadeRareCoin may have something to add to this one.image >>



    I already talked to Dennis, he is waiting to see what NGC grades it as.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This isn't cameo but it is a proof... love the appearance of the cameo... maybe it is a proof. Keep us posted.

    Large image to show the detail on the reverse...

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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,625 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Something looks really weird about that cheek under the eye and left of the nose like there is a strange shadow there.
    theknowitalltroll;
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    DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Who cares what the services call it. It's cool enough to keep. Figure out what it's worth when you sell it. image
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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    one word ... WOW!!!

    imageimage



    while looking at the first pictures I see a very nice, definately PL example, which in and of itself is a major score

    while studing the second, enlarged picture, I think I see it, but am not sure ... could it be? The more I look the more I think it could be ... man I'd love to see this piece in hand ... I'm going out on a limb ... it's coming back as a proof







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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SA...WEETimage
    That coin deserves three rubber chicken heads up.image
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    GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085 ✭
    Looks like a dog gone jaw dropper to me..image
    A thing of beauty is a joy for ever
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    FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭
    I have a real flashy PL here that I threw back a few years ago (via Greg Lauderdale before he moved to Hawaii)

    Link

    But your coin has TONS more detail...
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    numobrinumobri Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭


    I have seen this coin in hand and all I can say is"You Suck".


    Best of luck.image


    Brian
    NUMO
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Bumpie for the day crew!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
    That's one very image Columbian.image
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    cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Fixed the white balance a littleimage

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    Bill

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    09/07/2006
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    sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    that coin is very cool



    there was one on Teletrade last week that was ANACS MS61 DMPL, that I wish other people would not have bid so much on
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Fixed the white balance a littleimage

    imageimage >>




    Thanks CD!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    oldshepoldshep Posts: 3,240 ✭
    Ship...did someone say ship??......What a looker!!!

    Shep
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    That's just GOT to be a proof.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭
    If not a proof, it had to be one of the first of the presses.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Does anyone have the markers for a proof??
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
    The 100 or so proofs were given out to dignataries. They were struck multiple times so had excellent strikes with squared off features and so forth. They had very reflective mirror like fields. The devices were brilliant. I don't believe they were minted to produce the cameo look your coin has.

    If you have seen a brilliant proof Morgan and compared it to a proof like Morgan you can tell the proof from the biz strike by the quality of the surfaces and strike. Often proof like Morgans have more cameo contrast than proof Morgans. The proofs have smooth fields that look like a pool of water you can dive into. The same thing is going on here. This is a business strike coin.

    Naturally this is my opinion. I have only seen photos of proof Columbians and am not an expert. I don't think you will be convinced unless you get one of the services to look at it.
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I don't think the coin I have is a proof, I think it's a damned nice PL though! One of the other board members PM about the markers for a proof, that is why I asked.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    image for an update!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So, what's the update? image
    *For Sale on Ebay*
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    1st post
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭
    67* PLimage
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>67* PLimage >>



    The hit on the check will keep it from that. PL64/65*
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    foodudefoodude Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭
    It says 1892 NOT 1992

    Does that mean it is not one of those moderns?

    Marty, will that coin be back next week for James to bring to the showimage
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It says 1892 NOT 1992

    Does that mean it is not one of those moderns?

    Marty, will that coin be back next week for James to bring to the showimage >>




    Ummmmm, NO!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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