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Guess the Circulated Grade (PCGS Bust Half) ::GRADE REVEALED::
braddick
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Do you find it easier to grade circulated coins within your area of expertise or uncirculated coins? For example, if you're a Morgan collector, are the circulated coins easier to grade? Uncirculated? Are you better at knowing what a VG08 is vs a FN15? Or, is determining a MS63 easier for you than an MS64?
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Here's a PCGS 1806 Bust half. Guess the grade. (This isn't some tricked out "guess the grade" made to make the submitter of the question feel superior and the guesser less so. I think PCGS got this one right, so go with your gut instinct on this one.)
Full slab shown below. . .
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Here's a PCGS 1806 Bust half. Guess the grade. (This isn't some tricked out "guess the grade" made to make the submitter of the question feel superior and the guesser less so. I think PCGS got this one right, so go with your gut instinct on this one.)
Full slab shown below. . .
peacockcoins
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F-12
I have an easier time with circ coins than I do with MS60-62. 63-65 is a little easier for me.
i see the first poster agrees.
since i study only one series and even then concentrate
of P and S mints, i am finding i can guess the grade quite well
at all grade levels.
put a buff in front of me though, and i choke up bigtime.
Al
<< <i>PCGS VG-8. Possibly downgraded to G06 because of the obverse scratch? >>
Not a scratch- but you wouldn't have known that unless I tell you it is a a piece of lint laying on top of the holder (from the felt background). I didn't spot it until after the photos were taken.
peacockcoins
TC71
Most of the lower to XF are easier for me to grade in the Half Dollars. Most of the others I read the plastic.
Edit: If it's the O-114 the rarity rating is now R4--very scarce--80 to 200--according to the August 2004 update. Also I forgot to answer your other question--I'm comfortable with G4 through MS65 Morgans, AU through 63 Peace, and circulated Bust coinage. Not worth a damn with copper or nickle coinage--especially Buffalos--but I don't collect in those areas except for type coins.
Pat, I find it difficult to grade early copper in vf and above. Since there is so little of it in UNC, I would not do very well.
Tbig
Thanks! Appreciate that.
Al
Exactly what I was thinking. Darn nice PCGS G-6 is my guess.
edit: to answer the question, yes, I find circulated draped bust halves easier to grade.
that, and I've never seen an uncirculated one in person.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
My specialty area is Morgan dollars and, in general, I find the Mint State grades easier than the circulated grades.
I think it is the O-116, not the 114. Check out the relationship between the leaf and the I on the reverse. On the 114 it points to the right base of the I, on the 116 it point to the center. Same obverse die on both marriages.
As for the original questions, I find it easier to grade circulated coins than to grade uncirculated unless one goes back to adjectives again. (I have no problem, for example telling a select BU but as to whether or not it is 63 or 64 that is tougher. Same with gems...but 65 or 66 is hard.
Like most of the others I would probably call this one a strong VG.
Jim
Bill
Here's the full holder:
I've enjoyed this coin having purchased it raw back in the mid-eighties. I actually had it at one time PCGS graded (same grade I believe... old green insert) and cracked it out to place in a second set of raw Dansco types only to subsequently about four years later have it graded again (mostly for protection).
You guys are good! Just about everyone was within a couple of points or so.
peacockcoins
Tbig
PCGS is tough on circulated draped busts, this is really a borderline G6/VG8 coin. Ownership can add a point or two, the owner of this coin could call it a VG8 without much guilt. PCGS also uses the rims a lot for grading these, they like almost full rims for VG8, and I have seen coins, especially flowing hair halves, that PCGS graded as high as VF without any reverse detail on eagle, because of strong rims. NGC is more lenient with weak rims.
Who are you going to believe? Me-a guy who actually owns 2 1806's--or some guy who for some strange reason thinks that draped bust halves are neater than those with caps--even if he DOES own a world class draped half collection?
Nice call, Bill and thanks for the pointer on lowest berry vs A. I actually did know that all 116's have the die crack, just a brain freeze.
Jim
Edited to add: Pat, The coin has now gone from R-5 to R-4 to R-3 to now a R-1...any more attributions and it will be so common you will have to pay someone to take it off your hands!
Al