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Raw 1801 Draped Bust dollar grade opinions needed.*PCGS graded it F15*??
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Please give your grading opinions on this 1801 Bust 1$. Thanks.
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these are not my specialty ... but I would wag it's at least a VF, if not Choice
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But, I could call this a nice looking VF, though it looks to have been cleaned some time ago
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I would say VF as well.
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Just depends if there are hairlines readily visible and such. If so, they might net it down a bit.
<< <i>I'm not sure how to grade them, but is that a rim bump on the top obv/bottom rev? >>
I like the coin a lot. It has a very nice look to it, but that may just be the cleavage talking.
That being said, I agree with the above poster. The rim bump jumped out to me too. May be common for this type, but I'm not a fan of them.
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<< <i>I'm not sure how to grade them, but is that a rim bump on the top obv/bottom rev? >>
Yes it is, but it is a very minor bump. The reflection off the plastic of the 2X2 makes it look worse than it is.
<< <i>Perhaps it is ex-jewlery? That is what the disturbances folks are calling a rim bump look like to me. >>
No it definetly wasn't used as a jewlery piece.
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<< <i>Sorry, that's not a F15. No way Jose. >>
That's what I was thinking.
<< <i>The coin came back F15. My dealer cracked the coin out and put it back in his case raw for sale at VF money. >>
Here's a good example of why NGC seems to be getting more submissions these days????????
Dealers want their coins graded accurately. Not overgraded (well some do), not undegraded, just accurately graded.
It's a nice coin, and decent representative piece for a medium grade type set or date set. As with all of these coins, price is the key as whether or not it was or is a good deal. I'm not going to name a price, but if I heard one I'd have an up or down reaction.
elwood...My dealer didn't even tell me that the coin came back F15 and that he had cracked the coin out and put it back in his case for sale raw at VF money.
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<< <i>BillJones....greysheet fine is $1325, VF bid is $2350. I paid VF money or $2350 for the coin. >>
Given the coin's possible problems, $2,350 seems a little steep to me. I offered a 1799 here in PCGS EF-40 that met my standards for $4,100 and got only nibbles from the people here on the board.
I would say that this piece in the PCGS Fine-15 holder would retail for $1,500 or so. Like I wrote before, I think that PCGS net graded the coin, but that's just an opinion.
Sorry guys, 1799 dollar I offered has now been sold.
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<< <i>Given the coin's possible problems, $2,350 seems a little steep to me. I offered a 1799 here in PCGS EF-40 that met my standards for $4,100 and got only nibbles from the people here on the board. >>
The 1799 is one of the common dates of the series. Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges. imo
I agree PCGS must have net graded this coin. The coins color was probably not the reason it got net graded. The rim bump might be the reason it was net graded.