Will PCGS dip a coin if you ask?

keoj · November 17, 2005 10:55PM

I have a georgeous coin with some very tough toning. I have never dipped a coin and I'm not sure that will have this one done either but I'm curious how one asks PCGS to do this......

keoj

RYK · November 17, 2005 10:56PM

I have heard through the grapevine that they will occasionally do this, but it is not an advertised service.

wayneherndon · November 17, 2005 11:53PM

Probably not in that case.

Primarily when they do it is if it is already in one of their holders and has a problem that needs to be removed before it damages the coin.

WH

Boom · November 18, 2005 12:21AM

Might I suggest you contact HRH himself. He's accessable and will give a reply one way or the other.

ziggy29 · November 18, 2005 1:24AM

I might imagine they might do this under the table for preferred customers. I'd be worried about botching the job and being sued for the lost value, though, or eating the value of the coin in such a case.

WaterSport · November 18, 2005 1:30AM

I had a PCGS 1972/1972 Lincoln I sent to ANACS for crossover. They refused, and said it was recolored. I sent it back to PCGS and asked for Presidential review and Hall called and asked my permission to Dip the coin.

WS

Russ · November 18, 2005 2:19AM

I don't know. Do they?

Russ, NCNE

Longacre · November 18, 2005 2:31AM

<< <i>I don't know. Do they?

Russ, NCNE >>

Wow. Nice

nwcs · November 18, 2005 2:34AM

They will do it with your permission in special cases. not as a general rule.

Russ · November 18, 2005 2:37AM

<< <i>Wow. Nice >>

Russ, NCNE

eyoung429 · November 18, 2005 2:51AM

Russ.......You suck!!!!!!!!

Nice job on the re-sub.

19Lyds · November 18, 2005 3:15AM

OKEY DOKEY Russ, now you got me confused! Same coin, same cert number but obviously cleaned up a bit and REGRADED?

I don't recall seeing this box to check on the submission form but then I didn't see that stuff about Express Mail either so wuzzup with this??

Russ · November 18, 2005 3:23AM

<< <i>OKEY DOKEY Russ, now you got me confused! Same coin, same cert number but obviously cleaned up a bit and REGRADED?

I don't recall seeing this box to check on the submission form but then I didn't see that stuff about Express Mail either so wuzzup with this?? >>

A group of coins showed up on Teletrade all of which had hazed over from being submitted in crappy flips. The first image is one of them. I was going to try and grab them all to crack out and dip, but the seller set high reserves on them and all but one didn't sell. A few weeks later the group showed up on Teletrade again with all the same cert numbers, but now they were all nice. A couple upgraded a point.

I was able to grab the one posted the second time the group was listed.

Russ, NCNE

BillJones · November 18, 2005 4:23AM

I had an Arkansas commemorative half dollar that "went bad" in the holder. When I bought the piece it was bright white and very lustrous. As it turned out it was one of those dip jobs that almost worked.

The dipping solution had not been properly removed from the coin, and after a couple of years, the piece became really ugly. After someone complained about a $20 gold coin that had gone bad in the holder because of puddy, I complained about my Arkanas half dollar. PCGS contracted me and said that they would dip and re-holder the coin if I would send it to them. They did, and it came back much improved.

Russ · November 18, 2005 4:42AM

In addition to the examples above, PCGS has dipped two coins for me. One was an artificially frosted proof that I returned for grade guarantee, and the other was one that the nice folks in the sealing room fingerprinted.

Russ, NCNE

FatMan · November 18, 2005 7:43AM

I have a 1928 Peace Dollar that turned in the holder from a bad dipping. Sent it to PCGS for a review and HRH scrubbed it up nice and shiny and returned it in a nice new slab with the same cert number at the same grade.

291fifth · November 18, 2005 8:13AM

They shouldn't. Often the real effect of a dipping doesn't show up for several years.

Shamika · July 24, 2007 7:24AM

I missed this thread the first time. Wow!

BN · July 24, 2007 7:34AM

Russ... nice!

grabba · July 24, 2007 8:51AM

tahoe98 · July 25, 2007 4:10AM

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i saw the same thing in the cherrypickers'

Russ · July 25, 2007 4:17AM

BTW, that 1967 SMS Kennedy is now in a PCGS MS66DCAM holder.

Russ, NCNE

homerunhall · July 25, 2007 4:30AM

We only do it if the coin has gone bad in the holder, or if it's ugly for the grade and shouldn't have been in the holder in the first place. And we always ask permission.

We will not dip a toned coin just to make it white. We don't feel it's our job to make everything white. If the toning is appropriate for the grade then we won't touch the coin. You can if you want, be we won't.

dh

jmj3esq · July 25, 2007 4:32AM

Thanks David. Its nice to finaly have a real answer on this issue from PCGS.

Swampboy · July 25, 2007 5:09AM

Is this an appropriate place to ask about this coin?
PCGS PR69

-Gil

Russ · July 25, 2007 5:14AM

Swampboy,

That depends on what question you're asking. If it is will PCGS correct the problem on that coin, probably not. That's a milk spot, and it ain't coming off. If the question is will PCGS take care of it through their guarantee by compensating you or replacing the coin, the answer is absolutely they will.

Russ, NCNE

Swampboy · July 25, 2007 5:17AM

Thanks Russ.
I'll inquire of customer service.

joeyuk · July 25, 2007 6:54AM

Here is a before/after slabbing of the mint mark of a 1879 CC Morgan.
It went in raw and pcgs only had permission to slab it.
I do appreciate their work thou.

Will PCGS dip a coin if you ask?

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