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Gorgeous 1913-S Type 2 Buffalo Nickel - guess the grade.

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  • beartracks42beartracks42 Posts: 2,834 ✭
    Lovely coin.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin I'd say 64, is that a repunched mintmark or are my eyes going?

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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
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    stunning picture(s) russ.

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  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    AG3, you'd be best off giving it to me.

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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    That is pretty. Who could see rub under that color in a digital pic, so if it isn't AU-58, it's MS66+.
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    From the images, it looks like it could be a 66 but the odds tell me it isn't.image

    Russ, please tell us about the darker/stained looking area near the reverse border from roughly 3:30 to 5:30 - is it toning that has eaten into the metal? Can you see through it? Is it darker or lighter in person? Etc. Thanks.
  • VetterVetter Posts: 976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay, I'll give it a try. 63PQ
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Russ, please tell us about the darker/stained looking area near the reverse border from roughly 3:30 to 5:30 - is it toning that has eaten into the metal? Can you see through it? Is it darker or lighter in person? >>



    It's a deep russet gold toning. There is some light planchet pitting in that area, but it looks like flaws rather than post mint corrosion.

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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    My sense is PCGS probably graded it 64...Mike
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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭
    I agree with Mr. Heath. If it isn't an AU58 it's a gem grade or higher.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Somewhere between AU58 and MS64. I'd guess MS63.
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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That looks like a super nice slider Au-58
  • capecape Posts: 1,621 ✭
    russ this is a very nice coin!pcgs is tough on this date so ill have to say 64
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I'll go 58 also.
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  • NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    MS63
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  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    62
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  • elwoodelwood Posts: 2,414 ✭
    Added MMimage
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  • SUPERCARCOINSSUPERCARCOINS Posts: 1,152
    MS-67 image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    It's a good thing I don't grade Buffalo Nickels for a living because I look at this coin and think it's mint state all day long.

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  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image

    It's a good thing I don't grade Buffalo Nickels for a living because I look at this coin and think it's mint state all day long.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Re-submit it, and it probably will be.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ:

    It is also a good thing that I do not grade buffs for a living either and this coin is the poster child for a tough call which is not worthy of being in plastic at the grade of AU58. For the record, I like the coin and a MS62 seems appropriate even though the eye appeal is in th MS65 range.

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  • jomjom Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't see the signs of rub on the Buffs hip....based on the picture that is. Resubmit....if you are selling. If not...not bother. image

    jom
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    If it were my coin, I would take a shot at a crackout and resubmit. But, it belongs to another forum member.

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  • jomjom Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you have the coin check for circ marks and the aforementioned rub on the hip. Also note: It might be a "problem" coin such as one with light cleaning....hence a downgrade. Other than that I can't think of a reason for less than MS. At worse, an MS63. Again, based on the picture.

    jom
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love 913-s nickels!image
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    That coin should market grade MS63.
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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63..................64 tops

    Typical strike for the date.

    Nice coin, though.

    Pete

    Edited to add...........The toning does a lovely job hiding the rub.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    No major hits visible in the photo, good luster, obvwerse strike looks a little weak in thwe Liberty anbd date field but all in all looks like a 65.

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  • CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
    <Somewhere between AU58 and MS64. I'd guess MS63>

    I am not between those numbers. I'm over and under. 58 it is 'cause I saw the label image. It could have been 64 or better. I don't think it could have been in between. Not enough hits. I see enough areas that look weakly struck or have rub.

    I see Standing Lib Quarters with rubs on the leg but in MS 64+ holders. To me they are AU also...
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  • coolkarmacoolkarma Posts: 512 ✭✭
    Given the weakness of strike in the periphery, rather typical for the year, I'd give it a 63. Lovely coin. image

    Given my experience making PCGS AU58s (I have four such buffalos in my registry set, a record I suspect), I'd say check very closely on the eye brow and cheek bone as well.

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  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    I'd pay $775 for it right now.
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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You wont get it for that as the board member who owns it turned down 850.00 already??
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, these coins typically are well-struck. The only reason why I didn't think it was a 5 was the weak LIBERTY and the split tail was not "in your face" split.

    Agree with JOM. You don't see a flat hip or softness in the Buf's head, which are two of the first places to look to determine an Unc. coin from a slider. Don't see any surface marks & thought it was a slam-dunk 4, maybe bumped to a 5 for color.

    If someone could point out the wear on that coin, I'd like to see it.
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too late to play, but I must say I wasn't surprised at the 58. I didn't think that it would make gem cause of the weak strike, kneejerk was a 63.

    I'd like an expert to point out the rub - I looked and looked and couldn't see it. I guess that it's good that PCGS doen't have to grade off of scansimage

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