Gorgeous 1913-S Type 2 Buffalo Nickel - guess the grade.

Russ · November 4, 2005 6:19AM

Russ, NCNE

beartracks42 · November 4, 2005 6:31AM

Lovely coin.

MS65

coinbuf · November 4, 2005 7:03AM

Nice coin I'd say 64, is that a repunched mintmark or are my eyes going?

Chris

goose3 · November 4, 2005 8:05AM

stunning picture(s) russ.

I cannot recommend Russ enough for his photos!

D · November 4, 2005 8:08AM

AG3, you'd be best off giving it to me.

-Daniel

DHeath · November 4, 2005 8:12AM

That is pretty. Who could see rub under that color in a digital pic, so if it isn't AU-58, it's MS66+.

coinguy1 · November 4, 2005 8:13AM

From the images, it looks like it could be a 66 but the odds tell me it isn't.

Russ, please tell us about the darker/stained looking area near the reverse border from roughly 3:30 to 5:30 - is it toning that has eaten into the metal? Can you see through it? Is it darker or lighter in person? Etc. Thanks.

Vetter · November 4, 2005 8:17AM

Okay, I'll give it a try. 63PQ

Russ · November 4, 2005 8:35AM

<< <i>Russ, please tell us about the darker/stained looking area near the reverse border from roughly 3:30 to 5:30 - is it toning that has eaten into the metal? Can you see through it? Is it darker or lighter in person? >>

It's a deep russet gold toning. There is some light planchet pitting in that area, but it looks like flaws rather than post mint corrosion.

Russ, NCNE

MikeInFL · November 4, 2005 8:46AM

My sense is PCGS probably graded it 64...Mike

mdwoods · November 4, 2005 8:56AM

I agree with Mr. Heath. If it isn't an AU58 it's a gem grade or higher.

tradedollarnut · November 4, 2005 8:58AM

Somewhere between AU58 and MS64. I'd guess MS63.

jdimmick · November 4, 2005 8:59AM

That looks like a super nice slider Au-58

cape · November 4, 2005 9:00AM

russ this is a very nice coin!pcgs is tough on this date so ill have to say 64

mgoodm3 · November 4, 2005 9:01AM

I'll go 58 also.

Numismanic · November 4, 2005 9:10AM

MS63

RedneckHB · November 4, 2005 9:17AM

62

elwood · November 4, 2005 9:28AM

Added MM

SUPERCARCOINS · November 4, 2005 9:45AM

MS-67

Russ · November 4, 2005 11:28AM

It's a good thing I don't grade Buffalo Nickels for a living because I look at this coin and think it's mint state all day long.

Russ, NCNE

dbldie55 · November 4, 2005 11:39AM

<< <i>

It's a good thing I don't grade Buffalo Nickels for a living because I look at this coin and think it's mint state all day long.

Russ, NCNE >>

Re-submit it, and it probably will be.

coinkat · November 4, 2005 11:47AM

Russ:

It is also a good thing that I do not grade buffs for a living either and this coin is the poster child for a tough call which is not worthy of being in plastic at the grade of AU58. For the record, I like the coin and a MS62 seems appropriate even though the eye appeal is in th MS65 range.

jom · November 4, 2005 11:51AM

I don't see the signs of rub on the Buffs hip....based on the picture that is. Resubmit....if you are selling. If not...not bother.

jom

Russ · November 4, 2005 11:57AM

If it were my coin, I would take a shot at a crackout and resubmit. But, it belongs to another forum member.

Russ, NCNE

jom · November 4, 2005 12:01PM

If you have the coin check for circ marks and the aforementioned rub on the hip. Also note: It might be a "problem" coin such as one with light cleaning....hence a downgrade. Other than that I can't think of a reason for less than MS. At worse, an MS63. Again, based on the picture.

jom

LanLord · November 4, 2005 12:04PM

I love 913-s nickels!

Shamika · November 4, 2005 12:34PM

That coin should market grade MS63.

BuffaloIronTail · November 4, 2005 1:38PM

63..................64 tops

Typical strike for the date.

Nice coin, though.

Pete

Edited to add...........The toning does a lovely job hiding the rub.

19Lyds · November 4, 2005 1:47PM

No major hits visible in the photo, good luster, obvwerse strike looks a little weak in thwe Liberty anbd date field but all in all looks like a 65.

Edited to add:

I need to collect something else!

CarlWohlforth · November 4, 2005 1:55PM

<Somewhere between AU58 and MS64. I'd guess MS63>

I am not between those numbers. I'm over and under. 58 it is 'cause I saw the label

. It could have been 64 or better. I don't think it could have been in between. Not enough hits. I see enough areas that look weakly struck or have rub.

I see Standing Lib Quarters with rubs on the leg but in MS 64+ holders. To me they are AU also...

coolkarma · November 4, 2005 2:07PM

Given the weakness of strike in the periphery, rather typical for the year, I'd give it a 63. Lovely coin.

Given my experience making PCGS AU58s (I have four such buffalos in my registry set, a record I suspect), I'd say check very closely on the eye brow and cheek bone as well.

CoolKarma

gyocomgd · November 4, 2005 2:53PM

I'd pay $775 for it right now.

jdimmick · November 4, 2005 4:22PM

You wont get it for that as the board member who owns it turned down 850.00 already??

Elcontador · November 4, 2005 4:36PM

Yes, these coins typically are well-struck. The only reason why I didn't think it was a 5 was the weak LIBERTY and the split tail was not "in your face" split.

Agree with JOM. You don't see a flat hip or softness in the Buf's head, which are two of the first places to look to determine an Unc. coin from a slider. Don't see any surface marks & thought it was a slam-dunk 4, maybe bumped to a 5 for color.

If someone could point out the wear on that coin, I'd like to see it.

BlindedByEgo · November 4, 2005 5:17PM

Too late to play, but I must say I wasn't surprised at the 58. I didn't think that it would make gem cause of the weak strike, kneejerk was a 63.

I'd like an expert to point out the rub - I looked and looked and couldn't see it. I guess that it's good that PCGS doen't have to grade off of scans

Gorgeous 1913-S Type 2 Buffalo Nickel - guess the grade.

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