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Would you say NT or AT

mcmximcmxi Posts: 890 ✭
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I won't try to convince you with words. All I am going to say is that I put it in Acetone because it was in a flip and had PVC all over it. I would like honest opinions (no matter how harsh). I love toned coins, but have no experience telling them apart. So when I saw this one for cheap I got it. $18. Probably got taken, but I like it.
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    CoinOnTheCobCoinOnTheCob Posts: 712
    I'm no expert but it looks like a paper coin roller mark.
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    busco69busco69 Posts: 815 ✭✭
    I think AT, but still a great buy for the money. I would be proud to have it in the collection.
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    DickyBetzDickyBetz Posts: 3,825
    NT
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    RADRAD Posts: 287
    I would have to guess natural.....the lack of toning on the reverse is what convinces me.......
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    ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    I'm going with my first impression here, looks AT to me.

    But I've been know to be wrong..image......................................








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    DenverDaveDenverDave Posts: 2,164


    Looks NT to me and in the 64/65 range from the photos...

    I'm very surprised the toning was not removed in the bath, was it darker before the bath...?



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    mcmximcmxi Posts: 890 ✭
    It wasn't really that much darker, but the acetone was blue/green when I pourewd it out
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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,285 ✭✭✭
    Looks like NT to me.
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    jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    Does not look nature to me. AT.
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    DenverDaveDenverDave Posts: 2,164
    Please keep in mind I have never bathe a coin in acetone..."-)

    It is my understanding the color is from refraction of light on the surface film, not the surface film it's self...

    I'm surprised the bath was colored after use...

    Maybe someone with more experience in this area can chime in...

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    UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭
    Putting the coin in acetone is not dipping IMO.

    Looks NT to me.

    Joe.
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    coinfreak499coinfreak499 Posts: 1,720
    Looks NT to me. It's hard to tell from the picture but it looks MS63.


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    GATGAT Posts: 3,146 ✭
    The acetone taking on color is very suspicious. I have bathe many NT Morgans in acetone and never once has the acetone taken on color.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks AT to me. I've never been a fan of that yellowish shade of blue. The color also has that look of laying "on" the surface, not "in" the surface.
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    mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    AT
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    mcmximcmxi Posts: 890 ✭
    the acetone may have looked colored because the coin was still in the cup when I poured it out. I have however acetoned non toned morgans the it turned greenish. maby there was something green on the coin maby not I don't know. I am seeing that At seems to be the majority opinion here. Thanks for everyones input.
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    GATGAT Posts: 3,146 ✭
    Acetone will turn greenish if the coin you soaked had PVC.
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    DenverDaveDenverDave Posts: 2,164


    The PVC coloring the bath makes since...

    I see nothing that screams AT and the vote to date is 7 @ NT and 6 @ AT...

    Any way you look at it that's a nice Morgan for $18.00...



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    MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭
    NT and Nice looking to me image


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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NT
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    ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    AT all the way.
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    beepbeep Posts: 968
    I vote NT. MS63.

    Send the coin to me and I'll let you know for sureimage
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    I would vote AT......
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    fullerfun4fullerfun4 Posts: 385
    NT
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    uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    NT all day long
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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NT. I like it.

    Pure acetone itself will not dissolve most metal salts, if I remember my chemistry correctly - and certainly the soluble salts, if any, would probably be of insufficient concentration to color the fluid. Maybe it is AT with Kool-Aideimage, although I don't think that Kool-Aide is soluble in acetone, either...

    I'll say it again: purely speaking, all toning is artificial, in that it is introduced by external forces. It's just a matter of time and environment.

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    DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720 ✭
    NT.

    Acetone will not remove NT colorization.

    Acetone WILL remove PVC and that can give it a greenish tint.

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    ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    NT
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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From that image, I would say AT.
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    Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭
    Looks like an NT endroller.

    Based on the photo, the surfaces looks pretty good, luster looks washed out, but could be the image. If the luster is all there, I would say MS64, shot - 65.
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    cartwheelcartwheel Posts: 845 ✭
    NT. I like it.

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    mcmximcmxi Posts: 890 ✭
    Thanks for all the responses. AS far as if there is stlii luster there The back is PL and the front almost PL. I had to angle the coin to get the colors so it looks dead. The colors are much nicer in person darker, and with luster. There are a few dings on the face that I think would hold back any shot at 64. I would like to get it slabbed if I could (to make it easier to sell at a later dete). I forgot to ask if you like it or if its not your cup o tea
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