Q: How much would you pay for a Fair-2 Oregon? A: At least $13,800.

RYK · July 16, 2005 1:22PM

territorial gold coin?

My $400 max bid has been exceeded.

SethChandler · July 16, 2005 1:27PM

What's it worth in typical xf?

fc · July 16, 2005 1:29PM

not much. i do not think i would get much pleasure in owning that coin.
did the obverse have a design at one time? or is it simply "blank"?

RYK · July 16, 2005 1:30PM

This AU-50 sold a few months ago for $69,000!!!

mirabela · July 16, 2005 1:30PM

Aw, crud! I thought you were on to a pocket piece Oregon 50c. I was getting that look -- the way my boas get when I carry a rat into the room.

RYK · July 16, 2005 1:33PM

Aw, crud! I thought you were on to a pocket piece Oregon 50c. I was getting that look -- the way my boas get when I carry a rat into the room.

Sorry for the bait-and-switch, but it still would be a good hole-filler for the Oregon slot in the Dansco for Territorial gold.

i do not think i would get much pleasure in owning that coin.

I could not afford it in AU-50.

Dave99B · July 16, 2005 3:14PM

Oh man, that thing rocks!

But 3K ?????

Dave

FatMan · July 16, 2005 11:05PM

Red Book prices a Fine at $16500. Mintage 6000. Total pops (PCGS & NGC) are 35. And who knows how many times each has been resubmitted. I know nothing about the coin but it looks pretty darned rare to me. I would not be surprised to see this going for over $5000. After all, it is a pop 1 with none lower.

Shamika · July 16, 2005 11:41PM

RYK,

I saw this coin in Heritage's auction catalog and thought about bidding on it. As a piece of history, it's a keeper. But no way could I spend four figures no it.

BillJones · July 16, 2005 11:58PM

For what it's worth, I think that it's overgraded by a point. How can you call something with a totally blank reverse anything but Poor?

Sorry, but it this is the best that I could afford, I'd do without. I've taken that track on the 1796-7 half dollar. Years ago the best I could afford had AG sharpness with a crudely plugged hole @ $8,500.00

My response to that is "No thank you."

RYK · July 17, 2005 12:18AM

My response to that is "No thank you."

Ah, come on, Bill. For the right price, you would take it. $100? (less than its weight in bullion) $200? $1000? Everyone probably has his own acceptable purchase price for any coin.

DJC · July 17, 2005 12:28AM

<< territorial gold coin?

My $400 max bid has been exceeded.

>>

<< Thread Title: Is it inadvisable to tell other collectors (especially here) what you are bidding on?
Created On Saturday July 16, 2005 3:18 PM by RYK

I have mixed feelings. There are times that I would like to seek the advice of the community at large before making a purchase or bidding on a coin. However, knowing that there is a large number of lurkers that are possible competitors, I do not necessarily want to tip my hand, give them any ideas, or even endorse an auction lot (despite that my endorsement would/should have little value), nor do I want my potential competitors to benefit from the same advice. >>

<< Thread Title: Great Western Collection of Territorial Gold at Heritage
Created On Thursday July 07, 2005 6:57 PM also by RYK

Some very cool coins.

Nice Beaver! >>

Hmmmmm...

(Edited to add: I may take credit for exceeding your $400 max (just maybe), but that ain't me at $3K)

BillJones · July 17, 2005 12:55AM

<< My response to that is "No thank you."

Ah, come on, Bill. For the right price, you would take it. $100? (less than its weight in bullion) $200? $1000? Everyone probably has his own acceptable purchase price for any coin. >>

Sure I'd buy the piece at melt, but I've never been pleased with any very low grade item that I've ever owned. I've learned that it's better to pass and wait for something better, or do without if the price for a decent one is that high.

RYK · July 17, 2005 1:58AM

Nice try, DJC, but not close.

mgoodm3 · July 17, 2005 2:04AM

Cool piece of gold. I'd pay tree-fitty for it.

DJC · July 17, 2005 2:27AM

<< Nice try, DJC, but not close. >>

Just giving you a hard time.

On coolness factor alone (territorial gold, low grade circ, etc) I just might go as high as the current high bid. As it stands, however, I'm out of play for a long time. So, no, it wasn't me.

Previous Heritage results:
Sale 372, Lot 9207 Saturday, May 7, 2005 50 NGC $69,000.00
Sale 300, Lot 9032 Saturday, September 28, 2002 40 PCGS $36,800.00
Sale 115, Lot 1054 Wednesday, January 5, 1994 53 PCGS $18,920.00
Sale 107, Lot 7612 Saturday, July 31, 1993 45 PCGS $25,300.00

I'm betting it will probably cross a solid $5K. Yeah, this one is only FR02, but like FatMan pointed out, total pop (PCGS & NGC) is only 35. Anyone think it may hit 5 figures???

RYK · July 17, 2005 2:43AM

I'm betting it will probably cross a solid $5K. Yeah, this one is only FR02, but like FatMan pointed out, total pop (PCGS & NGC) is only 35. Anyone think it may hit 5 figures???

It's interesting. I can think of quite a few coins with a pop of 35 or fewer that would go under the current price in Fr-2. It really depends a great deal how many people NEED the coin for a set. How many people actually collect territorial gold by type (let alone date)? I do not know the answer but suspect that there are very few.

Longacre · July 17, 2005 3:15AM

I don't need any other collecting interests, thanks.

RYK · July 25, 2005 1:46AM

Yikes! That puppy...er, beaver is up to $11,000 (final price).

mrearlygold · July 25, 2005 1:46AM

Cool coin huh?

RYK · July 25, 2005 1:47AM

Cool coin huh?

How can you even tell?

Smittys · July 25, 2005 1:49AM

How'd it make a Fair 2 with no reverse??

mrearlygold · July 25, 2005 1:52AM

<< Cool coin huh?

How can you even tell?

>>

Steve27 · July 25, 2005 1:52AM

That's fuuny:

RYK · July 25, 2005 1:58AM

How'd it make a Fair 2 with no reverse??

Buy it and send it in for a grade review. Maybe you will get some money back.

michael · July 25, 2005 2:00AM

i would value this coin at 17,500 retail

ecos · July 25, 2005 2:09AM

<< i would value this coin at 17,500 retail >>

No way! Look at that nasty hit on the reverse. I would say that is a major detracting mark.

FatMan · July 25, 2005 8:58AM

Wow! I figured $5000+ but never thought it would go that high.

<< i would value this coin at 17,500 retail >>

Michael, what do you base that price on.

RYK · July 25, 2005 9:04AM

<>

Michael, what do you base that price on.

Yeah! On what?!

$11,000 is way too expensive for me to buy a coin that ugly. I guess I suffer from the same affliction as BillJones, but a milder case. At some price:condition ratio threshold, the coin is just not worth it to me. I would have been interested up to about $2500 (final price).

DJC · July 25, 2005 9:10AM

<< Sunday July 17, 2005 1:27 PM
I'm betting it will probably cross a solid $5K. Yeah, this one is only FR02, but like FatMan pointed out, total pop (PCGS & NGC) is only 35. Anyone think it may hit 5 figures??? >>

Even though I said it, I still don't believe it. Like you said RYK, I might have been interested up to $2-3K (it is a pretty cool piece), but I think $11K is just insane.

morgannut2 · July 25, 2005 9:27AM

Interesting coin, but gee the current bid is crazy-- And the bidding isn't over!

RYK · July 28, 2005 12:37AM

If it were me, I would rather have the previously mounted piece, with a lot more detail than the problem-free piece in Fair-2.

This VF details coin from the same collection is up to a bid of $10,000, while the PCGS Fr-2 is up to $12,000!:

RYK · July 28, 2005 9:09PM

Final price for the Fair-2: $14,950!!!!

LanLord · July 28, 2005 9:14PM

Jeeze. that is one heavily used beaver

PerryHall · July 28, 2005 10:15PM

<< Jeeze. that is one heavily used beaver >>

No way did it circulate in commerce long enough to get that much wear. It was obviously carried as a pocket piece by someone for many years.

Nysoto · July 28, 2005 11:32PM

Interesting gold piece. I also prefer the VF details. With the gold content straight from placer gold, which varies in purity, a worn example could be counterfeit. A specific gravity test would be meaningless as there is no standard to measure against.

lonelyp · July 29, 2005 12:35AM

I wish I had $13,000.00 I could even THINK about spending on a coin.
But for that I wouldn't give my 3 proof silver eagles.
I mean I wouldn't want to collect SMOOTH METAL DISCKS

PS
Even if they are GOLD

1jester · July 29, 2005 4:19AM

Tons of dough!!!

I've got plenty of under pop-35 coins, and some unique, but when will the Darkside ever command such insane amounts of cash??

Q: Is the Liteside overpriced?

A: You betcha!

RYK · July 12, 2006 3:29AM

This one would go nicely with the beaver. Any guesses how much?

Link to AG-3 Mormon $5

keets · July 12, 2006 5:33AM

HK-573 is a nice Gilt Bronze So-Called Dollar from the 1959 Oregon Statehood Centennial which uses the same motifs and lettering as this slug. if you do a bit of searching you might be able to locate an example with nicely frosted devices and PL fields for under $100. a few notes about the Exposition; it provided the first U.S. showing of the Atomic Energy Exhibit from the Worlds Fair and a Wagon Train re-enacted the trek from Independence, Missouri to Independence, Oregon.

aficionado · July 12, 2006 5:49AM

Oh ya, that's a WAY better design than the Gold Buffalo.

Of which you could buy 19.

You peoples sense of design is lacking.

Q: How much would you pay for a Fair-2 Oregon? A: At least $13,800.

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