Coin grading experiment, Part 1. Do this one first.

mgoodm3 · April 23, 2005 4:35AM

I was looking at Coinguy1's grading thread a few days back and realized like everybody else did that the grades were all over the place and very inconsistent. The pics were smallish and I figured that was the reason for all of the inconsistency. Now I want to see if I figured right. For Part 1 I have four coins two copper, two silver, toned and untoned for you to grade. The pics are 200 X 200 which is about what the originals in the previous thread were. Grade the coins. I'll try to tabulate some results from the data and then part will consist of the same four coins in 700 X 700 format and we'll do it again. They are all uncirculated. I tried to include coins that I haven't posted recently or haven't told the grade. Oh, this thread is Coinguy1 approved.

Do we suck at grading all images or does size matter?

Coin #1

Coin #2

Coin #3

Coin #4

F117ASR · April 23, 2005 4:40AM

MS64 BN
MS65 RD
MS64
MS66

F117ASR · April 23, 2005 4:41AM

Make that first one MS64 RB

Dennis88 · April 23, 2005 4:42AM

Coin #1: MS64RB, maybe 65
Coin #2: Lock MS65RD
Coin #3: Lock MS 65
Coin #4: MS 65, maybe 66

t3rr0r1sm · April 23, 2005 4:51AM

first MS62
second MS64
third AU58
fourth MS64

Merc · April 23, 2005 4:55AM

Your pictures are all nice and you get the colors well. The problem is, you can only tell so much from a picture. They are all nice unc coins, but I can't give you an accurate pinpoint grade from just the pictures.

Russ · April 23, 2005 4:55AM

MS65RB
MS65RD
MS67
MS66

Russ, NCNE

mgoodm3 · April 23, 2005 4:57AM

<< <i>Your pictures are all nice and you get the colors well. The problem is, you can only tell so much from a picture. They are all nice unc coins, but I can't give you an accurate pinpoint grade from just the pictures. >>

That's kinda the point of this excercise. I want to see if accuracy improves with picture size.

mgoodm3 · April 23, 2005 5:41AM

Oh come on, only four responses? This is pathetic.

t3rr0r1sm · April 23, 2005 5:43AM

the more i look at #2, the more I apprecaite it.

but the same goes for #1.

What i mean is, #1 is darker, yet has just as much detail as #2.

#2 has eye appeal due to its ?luster?, the original shiny coating. (i do not know the correct term yet).

But, maybe #1 was minted just like I see it now? It appears on the obverse that some
has been worn away, but on the reverse, one would expect to see some in the small
crevice places. there is none. making me think that is the way it should look.

it is almost like #1 does have more detail than #2.

tjkillian · April 23, 2005 5:48AM

Coins look fantastic.

1. MS-65RB
2. MS-65RD
3. MS-66
4. MS-67

Tom

eyoung429 · April 23, 2005 6:07AM

MS64 BN
MS66 RD
MS64
MS65

chloebess · April 23, 2005 6:28AM

64RB
66RD
64
67

cosmicdebris · April 23, 2005 6:32AM

With such small images I will say:

1: MS66 R&B
2: MS66 RED
3: MS65
4: MS67

I can't wait to see them larger.

LeeG · April 23, 2005 6:48AM

Nice Pic's!

MS63 RB
MS64 RB
MS65
MS65

BigGreek · April 23, 2005 6:49AM

MS64 RB
MS66 RD
MS66
MS66

dtkk49a · April 23, 2005 6:52AM

MS65RB
MS65RD
MS66
MS67

CarlWohlforth · April 23, 2005 6:54AM

64 RB
65 RD
65
66

ChangeInHistory · April 23, 2005 6:57AM

MS-63BN
MS-65/66 RD
MS-64
MS-66

airplanenut · April 23, 2005 7:03AM

1- MS64RB
2- MS65RD
3- MS66
4- MS66

mgoodm3 · April 23, 2005 7:29AM

Part two up.

BillJones · April 23, 2005 7:36AM

#1 MS-65, Brown
#2 MS-66, Red
#3 MS-67
#4 MS-66

TommyType · April 23, 2005 7:42AM

#1: 65RB
#2: 66Red
#3: 65
#4: 67

I wasn't going to "take the test" because all I had to say was "The pics are too small!!"

But now I see you have a second thread, where I presume larger pics are posted??? I guess I'll open it and see!

cladking · April 23, 2005 7:52AM

63, 64, 67, 65.

Colors are tough from a picture but the first should go RB with a long shot at RD.

edited to add that these are part one.

charley · April 23, 2005 7:57AM

coin 1-64 Red, coin2-would not take much for me to call this a Proof 63. Pass on the qtrs.

haletj · April 23, 2005 8:02AM

It's hard to tell what the luster is like from the photos... but here goes it...
63rb (64rb if the luster is better than indicated)
65rd (or 66rd if the luster is better, rb if the color is worse than indicated)
66 (67 if the luster is nicer)
66 (this you can tell has nice luster, just can't tell if the marks are minor enough for ms67).