Guess The Grade: 1847 1/2 Dime

LeeG · December 19, 2004 12:52PM

Was hoping to get some grade thoughts on this and any other Breen or variety information. I'm posting two different size pictures. It started to get too fuzzy when I went larger than these. Thanks, Lee

guysmy · December 19, 2004 12:58PM

coinz too small . grade it er F12 'cause of small size

I kid. (alluding to another thread and the nimrod that neg'd a seller because the half dime is small)

MFH · December 19, 2004 1:26PM

Nice coin...I'm not an expert on half dimes, but its MS and from what I can see on the pics ( nice job by the way ) I'd say that this should grade at least MS65 (?)

TommyType · December 19, 2004 1:34PM

Hey!! I bid on that coin tonight!

(Obviously didn't win, or I'D be asking the question).

Coinosaurus · December 19, 2004 1:34PM

Don't see any rub.....can't tell how much luster but I'm guessing 64 or better.

oreville · December 19, 2004 1:39PM

Looks like MS-62 to me. Luster appears diminished.

tradedollarnut · December 19, 2004 1:43PM

It may be technically unc, but from the picture appears to be cleaned at one point with little remaining luster. I'd net it out at AU55.

oreville · December 19, 2004 2:18PM

TDN's grade of net AU55 is certainly possible.
But there seems like enough variation of toning between the devices and the fields to make that possibility no more than a possibility.

In person inspection is a must on this one.

rhedden · December 19, 2004 10:57PM

Hmmm, it's in white plastic....

I'm going to guess NGC MS-64.

If it's ANACS, I'll say MS-63.

LeeG · December 19, 2004 11:52PM

Thanks guys for your comments. I picked this up cause I thought it was undergraded. I'm probably wrong but that's ok. It's still a nice coin. Sorry TommyType! Probably send to PCGS for upgrade. I was trying to get some pricing info on this but Heritage, Teletrade, and eBay had nothing? I'm happy with it being my first 1/2 dime. I noticed something going on with the date? Thanks Again, Lee

BillJones · December 20, 2004 12:24AM

I would agree with the MS-63 grade. Unlike many certified 19th century coins, this one does not have the usual rub on Ms. Liberty’s thigh or breast. I think that the coin was dipped a few years ago and has since toned in the darker areas that you see.

I believe that this is Valentine variety #5. Valentine states that there is a die crack that runs through “184” of the date. If it is that variety there might also be a die defect between the 5th and 6th stars and die break from star # 7 to Ms. Liberty’s head.

mgoodm3 · December 20, 2004 12:45AM

nice h10c.

KurtHorn · December 20, 2004 1:39AM

I started out wondering if it was cleaned, cause the pic has overly shiny devices. But seeing your NGC grade I ass u me that it's not cleaned. That said... I would have gone MS 62. Grading on half dimes is very stringent. I cracked a couple of MS 64's recently and sent them in,... bad move. They both came back 63's.

BillJones · December 20, 2004 3:40AM

Unlike larger coins, half dimes do not have a major problem with bag marks. They are so light that they seldom got large marks when they are placed in bags with other coins of a similar size. Tiny marks, light rub and cleaning are most often their down fall. A silver dallar can some obvious marks and still be an MS-63. Not so with a half dime.

TommyType · December 20, 2004 11:22AM

<< <i>Sorry TommyType! >>

Hey, no problem! The main reason I held back is not because I didn't like the coin, but because I need to throttle back my buying. I've been on a binge.

The Teletrade description, (and their sometimes poor pictures), may indicate the coin may look even better in hand?

"Much soft white mint luster remains at the centers, with russet and sea green toning at the rims. Well struck. Pleasing surfaces. It is a very nice Choice quality example, representing the stars obverse type."

Congrats on your new acquisition!

Tom

tsacch · December 20, 2004 11:38AM

wow, I like it...........64, but would rather see in hand....nice coin

LeeG · December 20, 2004 2:58PM

Thanks for all the great comments. I'm going to send it PCGS for upgrade!! I'll keep you guys posted!!!!!!!! Lee

BillJones · December 21, 2004 4:09AM

<< <i>

Thanks for all the great comments. I'm going to send it PCGS for upgrade!! I'll keep you guys posted!!!!!!!! Lee >>

Good Luck!

I don't think that you will get an upgrade. The white parts of the surfaces are probably dulled by a haze from the dipping solution. As such PCGS won't like for any more than an MS-63 if that. The current MS-63 grade is the right one for this coin in a front line (PCGS, NGC) slab. You might get more points out the other brands, but you will only be fooling yourself.

CoinOnTheCob · December 21, 2004 5:11AM

Guysmy,

I was thinking the same thing. Coin is an MS-63, but because it is smaller than I had imagined, It is very, very poor!!!!

LeeG · December 28, 2004 4:07PM

Have the coin "In Hand" and wanted to post my pics:

Thanks, Lee

mrdq · December 28, 2004 10:41PM

Is your picture closer to the real color or is the other picture..or neither?

LeeG · December 29, 2004 1:05AM

Mr D Q:

My picture is the coin "In Hand". The first picture was a Heritage picture. Mine is more realistic of how the coin actually looks. Lee

RYK · April 18, 2008 7:35AM

ttt

LeeG · April 18, 2008 7:42AM

Blast from the past here.

Don't even remember what happened to this one?

1794half1839 · April 18, 2008 7:49AM

Lovely type coin. I'd be proud to own that.

DJCoinz · April 18, 2008 8:18AM

<< <i>Blast from the past here.

Don't even remember what happened to this one?

>>

Uh oh.

Guess The Grade: 1847 1/2 Dime

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