Guess The Grade: 1847 1/2 Dime

LeeG

Was hoping to get some grade thoughts on this and any other Breen or variety information. I'm posting two different size pictures. It started to get too fuzzy when I went larger than these. Thanks, Lee

guysmy

coinz too small . grade it er F12 'cause of small size

























I kid. (alluding to another thread and the nimrod that neg'd a seller because the half dime is small)

MFH

Nice coin...I'm not an expert on half dimes, but its MS and from what I can see on the pics ( nice job by the way ) I'd say that this should grade at least MS65 (?)

TommyType

Hey!! I bid on that coin tonight!

(Obviously didn't win, or I'D be asking the question).

Coinosaurus

Don't see any rub.....can't tell how much luster but I'm guessing 64 or better.

oreville

Looks like MS-62 to me. Luster appears diminished.

tradedollarnut

It may be technically unc, but from the picture appears to be cleaned at one point with little remaining luster. I'd net it out at AU55.

oreville

TDN's grade of net AU55 is certainly possible.
But there seems like enough variation of toning between the devices and the fields to make that possibility no more than a possibility.

In person inspection is a must on this one.

rhedden

Hmmm, it's in white plastic....

I'm going to guess NGC MS-64.

If it's ANACS, I'll say MS-63.

LeeG

Thanks guys for your comments. I picked this up cause I thought it was undergraded. I'm probably wrong but that's ok. It's still a nice coin. Sorry TommyType! Probably send to PCGS for upgrade. I was trying to get some pricing info on this but Heritage, Teletrade, and eBay had nothing? I'm happy with it being my first 1/2 dime. I noticed something going on with the date? Thanks Again, Lee

BillJones

I would agree with the MS-63 grade. Unlike many certified 19th century coins, this one does not have the usual rub on Ms. Liberty’s thigh or breast. I think that the coin was dipped a few years ago and has since toned in the darker areas that you see.

I believe that this is Valentine variety #5. Valentine states that there is a die crack that runs through “184” of the date. If it is that variety there might also be a die defect between the 5th and 6th stars and die break from star # 7 to Ms. Liberty’s head.

mgoodm3

nice h10c.

KurtHorn

I started out wondering if it was cleaned, cause the pic has overly shiny devices. But seeing your NGC grade I ass u me that it's not cleaned. That said... I would have gone MS 62. Grading on half dimes is very stringent. I cracked a couple of MS 64's recently and sent them in,... bad move. They both came back 63's.

BillJones

Unlike larger coins, half dimes do not have a major problem with bag marks. They are so light that they seldom got large marks when they are placed in bags with other coins of a similar size. Tiny marks, light rub and cleaning are most often their down fall. A silver dallar can some obvious marks and still be an MS-63. Not so with a half dime.

TommyType

<< <i>Sorry TommyType! >>



Hey, no problem! The main reason I held back is not because I didn't like the coin, but because I need to throttle back my buying. I've been on a binge.

The Teletrade description, (and their sometimes poor pictures), may indicate the coin may look even better in hand?

"Much soft white mint luster remains at the centers, with russet and sea green toning at the rims. Well struck. Pleasing surfaces. It is a very nice Choice quality example, representing the stars obverse type."

Congrats on your new acquisition!

Tom

tsacch

wow, I like it...........64, but would rather see in hand....nice coin

LeeG

Thanks for all the great comments. I'm going to send it PCGS for upgrade!! I'll keep you guys posted!!!!!!!! Lee

BillJones

<< <i> Thanks for all the great comments. I'm going to send it PCGS for upgrade!! I'll keep you guys posted!!!!!!!! Lee >>



Good Luck!

I don't think that you will get an upgrade. The white parts of the surfaces are probably dulled by a haze from the dipping solution. As such PCGS won't like for any more than an MS-63 if that. The current MS-63 grade is the right one for this coin in a front line (PCGS, NGC) slab. You might get more points out the other brands, but you will only be fooling yourself.

CoinOnTheCob

Guysmy, I was thinking the same thing. Coin is an MS-63, but because it is smaller than I had imagined, It is very, very poor!!!!

LeeG

Have the coin "In Hand" and wanted to post my pics:





Thanks, Lee

mrdq

Is your picture closer to the real color or is the other picture..or neither?

LeeG

Mr D Q:

My picture is the coin "In Hand". The first picture was a Heritage picture. Mine is more realistic of how the coin actually looks. Lee

RYK

ttt

LeeG

Blast from the past here. Don't even remember what happened to this one?

1794half1839

Lovely type coin. I'd be proud to own that.

DJCoinz

<< <i>Blast from the past here. Don't even remember what happened to this one? >>

Uh oh.