POLL: What should I do with this ANACS holdered artificially toned coin?

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• MadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 2:17AM

  DIP THE SUCKER!!!

  It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
  
  

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• K6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭

  November 23, 2004 2:19AM

  
  
  << <i>What should I do with this ANACS holdered artificially toned coin? >>
  
  
  
  Crack it out and sell it raw for $3000 to an unsuspecting dealer.

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• PhillyJoe Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 2:22AM

  Send it to NGC; you'll get your answer a little quicker.
  Nice looking coin for a Franklin.
  
  Joe

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• ss350camaro Posts: 4,529 ✭

  November 23, 2004 2:23AM

  It might be real, crack it out and submit it to NGC (they're easier).
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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• MadMonk Posts: 3,743 ✭

  November 23, 2004 2:53AM

  put it on ebay and list the name of the person you bought it from, you know provinance is important

  Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

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• RYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 2:56AM

  Offer it to NumisEd.

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• wjd283 Posts: 1,406

  November 23, 2004 3:15AM

  Crack it out,make up smoe ludicrous story of how it was found in a lava pit,put it on ebay,and challenge everyone to disprove your story.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  edit fo spellig.

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• XpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭

  November 23, 2004 3:17AM

  Do you think it's AT, Russ?

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• Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 3:20AM

  
  
  << <i>Do you think it's AT, Russ? >>
  
  
  
  My opinion is unimportant.
  
  Russ, NCNE

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• TWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭

  November 23, 2004 3:25AM

  
  
  << <i>My opinion is unimportant. >>
  
  -Crack it and sell it raw NT for $3000 and your opinion will be all that matters.

  My eBay store

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• Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭

  November 23, 2004 3:30AM

  Dip it, then send to NGC.

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• dorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 3:31AM

  get it into a pcgs holder. i bet it could be done....
  
  K S

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• ElectricEye Posts: 2,354

  November 23, 2004 3:41AM

  sell it to a suspecting dealer

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• Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 3:57AM

  Wow! It's currently an even split at 11 votes each.
  
  Russ, NCNE

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• DominusDeus Posts: 993 ✭

  November 23, 2004 4:09AM

  dip and PCGS it.
  
  Or a give-away (kept in ANACS holder).

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• dthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭

  November 23, 2004 4:10AM

  Keep it in the ANACS holder and just keep it for your personal collection as an example of an AT pattern to compare against.

  Mr. Thigpen
  
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• Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 4:13AM

  
  
  << <i>and just keep it for your personal collection >>
  
  
  
  Keep a Frankie? Surely you jest.
  
  Russ, NCNE

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• RotatedRainbows Posts: 2,085 ✭✭

  November 23, 2004 4:17AM

  
  
  << <i>DIP THE SUCKER!!! >>
  
  
  
  Hey that is not one of the options you coin doctor!!
  
  Hmmmmm 14, 13, 12 is the current vote count, I guess you will have to put up a dart board to make the final decision.

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• dthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭

  November 23, 2004 4:18AM

  
  
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  << <i>and just keep it for your personal collection >>
  
  
  
  Keep a Frankie? Surely you jest.
  
  Russ, NCNE >>
  
  
  
  Sell it to me very cheaply to put into my collection as an example of an artificial toning pattern

  Mr. Thigpen
  
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• RGL Posts: 3,784 ✭

  November 23, 2004 4:21AM

  No dip ... very real shot NT ... crack and PCGS, much as it pains me to say it with their head up their arses of late ...

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• Deadhorse Posts: 3,720 ✭

  November 23, 2004 4:30AM

  ANACS makes mistakes too ya know. I tend to think it's NT. I've seen lots of NT Frankies with way more colorization than that one.
  
  Crack it(gently) and off to PCGS with it. I'll bet you get a pleasant surprise.

  "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
  John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff

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• kieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭

  November 23, 2004 4:31AM

  
  
  << <i>DIP THE SUCKER!!! >>
  
  
  
  
  
  Cameron Kiefer

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• Outhaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 4:31AM

  Sell it to me as-is!

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• paigowjohnny Posts: 4,257 ✭

  November 23, 2004 4:38AM

  crack and spend

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• SarasotaFrank Posts: 1,625 ✭✭

  November 23, 2004 4:41AM

  
  
  << <i>
  
  << <i>What should I do with this ANACS holdered artificially toned coin? >>
  
  
  
  Crack it out and sell it raw for $3000 to an unsuspecting dealer. >>
  
  
  
  or crack it out and make a deal with a third party for THEM to sell it for $7000.00 with a buy-back guarantee if it holders at MS-65.
  
  They can deflect any questions about not holding by saying "they just don't play that game"
  

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• Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭

  November 23, 2004 4:52AM

  
  
  << <i>Dip it, then send to NGC. >>
  
  
  
  Actually, don't dip it. Just crack and send to NGC. It would be an interesting experiment.

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• XpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭

  November 23, 2004 5:04AM

  
  
  << <i> My opinion is unimportant.
  
  Russ, NCNE >>
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  I just wanted to preserve that statement for posterity

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• magikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭

  November 23, 2004 5:06AM

  I wonder how different the results would be if this were posted without the ANACS slab - perhaps the "power of the plastic" would be revealed?
  
  Billy

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• Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 5:10AM

  
  
  << <i>I wonder how different the results would be if this were posted without the ANACS slab >>
  
  
  
  That would have made the thread far less entertaining.
  
  Russ, NCNE

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• Shamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 9:27AM

  I must admit, that coin looks NT to me.

  Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!

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• LeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭

  November 23, 2004 11:01AM

  Make it one of the gift's for your 30K post level coming up soon! Lee

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• guysmy Posts: 338

  November 23, 2004 11:26AM

  eBay Sales copy:
  
  FOR WHEN NATURAL TONING JUST AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH - THE KEITH RICHARDS TOBACCO SPECIAL FRANKLIN
  
  DID YOU KNOW NATURAL TONING IS NOT ALWAY DESIRABLE TO COLLECTORS? IT IS OFTEN UNEVEN AND BLOTCHY. SOME NATURALLY TONED COINS LOOK LIKE THEY WERE CRAPPED ON BY SMALL WOODLAND ANIMALS! ONCE IN A WHILE A TRUE INVESTMENT-GRADE COLLECTOR'S PIECE COMES AROUND LIKE THIS ONE - AN ARTIFICALLY TONED COIN! MOSTLY ALL "AT" (ARTIFICALLY TONED FOR SHORT!) COINS ARE FOUGHT OVER BY COLLECTOR'S BUT THIS ONE IS EVEN MORE SPECIAL! THIS COIN WAS PLACED IN THE ROLLING STONES DRESSING ROOM AND PROCEEDED TO TOUR WITH THEM. TONS OF TABACCO (AND OTHER STUFF) WAS SMOKED ON TOUR WHICH TONED THE COIN QUITE NICELY. THAT KEITH RICHARD GUY ASHED ON IT AND DROPPED IT REPEATEDLY AND IT STILL CAME OUT SMELLING AND LOOKING LIKE A ROSE!
  
  THIS COIN WILL BE SHIPPED IN THE STONES TOUR BUS FOR A PREMIUM OF ONLY $6,000 (ON TOP OF THE CLOSING BID). A KEITH RICHARDS IMPERSONATOR WILL THEN PRESENT YOU WITH THIS FINE COIN (IN THE BUFF FOR AN ADDITIONAL $50). DON'T PASS UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A PIECE OF US AND ROCK & ROLL HISTORY!! BID NOW!!!
  
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• dorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 10:11PM

  
  
  << <i>Crack it out and sell it raw for $3000 to an unsuspecting dealer. >>
  
  of course, the irony is that if you are able to get an "unsuspecting dealer" to cough up $3000 for it, then that person's almost certainly not a real dealer, just a dealer-wannabe.
  
  K S

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• Aethelred Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 10:18PM

  Sell it as is.

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• darktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 10:24PM

  Looks like they were tring to mimic mint set toning but the purple color is out of place for this mint and year of original mint set- the gold looks a bit odd as well- AT. mike

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• coincollector1989 Posts: 856

  November 23, 2004 10:59PM

  Russ if you think its AT then keep it for a model and/or learning tool for other collectors. If its mislabeled or you think it is not AT submit the coin across the street. JMHO

  Stacy
  
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• RYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 11:10PM

  Auction on the R&I site. Maybe it can be an "RT-recommended" coin.
  
  Maybe R&I will buy it outright...naaaaaah.

  My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132

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• eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭

  November 23, 2004 11:16PM

  Where's our resident Frankie Diva at??? She could shed a world of light on this!!!!

  This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM
  
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• jom Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 23, 2004 11:18PM

  
  
  << <i>get it into a pcgs holder. i bet it could be done.... >>
  
  
  
  I agree with Karl. If that coin was in a PCGS holder now everone would be claiming how nice it is...
  
  Crack and resubmit.
  
  jom

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• K6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭

  November 23, 2004 11:23PM

  
  
  << <i>I agree with Karl. If that coin was in a PCGS holder now everone would be claiming how nice it is... >>
  
  
  
  That coin would never see the inside of a PCGS holder.

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• dorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭

  November 24, 2004 12:34AM

  is that because crappy a-t jobs never get into pcgs holders? or just this particular a-t job could never make it?
  
  K S

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• K6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭

  November 24, 2004 12:37AM

  No Karl, it is because PCGS is overly tight with toned material to the point of bodybagging some NT coins as "questionable".

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• BigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭

  November 24, 2004 8:27AM

  Here is on to send in with it!-On second thought, maybe it's not a good idea----------------------BigE

  I'm glad I am a Tree

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• CoinAddict Posts: 5,571 ✭

  November 24, 2004 8:51AM

  It looks NT to me. I say crack it out and send to PCGS or you could just send it to me as-is.
  What grade where you expecting when you submitted it?
  

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• Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  November 24, 2004 9:10AM

  
  
  << <i>What grade where you expecting when you submitted it? >>
  
  
  
  I didn't submit it, I bought it already holdered.
  
  Russ, NCNE

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• wjd283 Posts: 1,406

  November 24, 2004 9:37AM

  
  
  << <i>I didn't submit it, I bought it already holdered >>
  
  
  
  
  This statement leads me to believe you purchased it to send it to PCGS because your unimportant opinion is that it is NT.
  
  
  
  
  But I could be wrong.

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• Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  November 24, 2004 9:41AM

  Nah, I bought it just so I could post this thread.
  
  Russ, NCNE

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• aknow Posts: 115 ✭

  November 24, 2004 9:41AM

  Crack it out and keep it. It's nice.
  Dr. Steve

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