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Thoughts on this 1853 Arrows and Rays Half?

GOLDSAINTGOLDSAINT Posts: 2,148 ✭
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Anyone like to give their opinions on the grade of this coin?image
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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    XF-45.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, it looks pretty nice except for no life left on the surface. It is completely flat appearing.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU55 by current standards.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • ddbirdddbird Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭
    Au 58, Im going to assume it still has slight luster!
    image
    ">"    http://www.cashcrate.com/5663377"
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Its not a quarter. Could be anywhere from xf- ms63. I will guess au53.

  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭


    << <i>Im going to assume it still has slight luster >>



    You should never assume when grading. If the pic has no luster than grade it as it is.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • red68red68 Posts: 40
    Looks like a scan. scanners will make coin look flat I would say au55 to me But I like old halfs anyway so the grade would not matter to me. I like it. image
  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720 ✭
    AU Seated Half
  • au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭
    This coin is at least AU58. It may even be better.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-55 Seated Liberty Half Dollar - Mint State Details brought down to AU-55 for slight rub in unprotected areas of obverse field between the stars and Miss Liberty, probably from a old cleaning.

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • prooflikeprooflike Posts: 3,879 ✭✭
    Maybe it is the wrong pic??

    For the Half, it looks AU-53
    image
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    my first thought: as others have noted, the pictured coin is a half dollar, not a quarter.

    other thoughts: the coin has a nice strike and nearly MS detail, possibly a trace of rub makes it technically AU i think no lower than 55, on a detail basis. those who said XF (cameron) please sell me your XF seated liberty coins!

    Surfaces: difficult if not impossible to tell from that scan. could be a nice coin with luster, could be dead. Certainly not many big marks on the coin, I would really like to see a digital picture with nice light instead of a scan.

    based on what I see, start with a conservative AU55, reserve the right to go higher if it has nice surfaces and luster, also could be lower (and indeed net out as an EF coin) if it has cleaned or dull surfaces.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • PutTogetherPutTogether Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭
    I'm going to agree word for word, with what Baley said.
  • NoGvmntNoGvmnt Posts: 1,126 ✭
    PCGS - AU50

    NGC - AU53

    SEGS AU-55

    ACGG-PF99 Massive Cameo!!!

    Jim
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Certainly appears AU-something. As far as life and luster goes, it's kind of a potentially deceiving pic, but I'd sure rather give this a try vs. a dipped-bright wonder!
  • RBB617RBB617 Posts: 498 ✭✭
    From the photo, I'd suggest AU55 due to what appears to be some sort of cleaning. With a little bit of optimism, I might go for AU58.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS 63,thinking it may have some luster I dont see.
    Al
  • GOLDSAINTGOLDSAINT Posts: 2,148 ✭
    O.K. here is a little better pic. For the color.

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sure that's the same coinimage...MS64
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Yeah thats better. Now make that one big as the top one.
  • GOLDSAINTGOLDSAINT Posts: 2,148 ✭
    Yes this is the same coin, actually my wife scanned this this morning and when the scan did not show the color she took a picture of it. She has become pretty handy with all of this.

    She bought herself one of those PCGS grade books and thinks this is a MS62 after reading the strike characteristics.
  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    photos beautiful. Scans really kill coins. Nice half.
    If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GoldSaint: The digital photograph is more revealing than the scan was. It shows some nice natural color and perhaps a slight amount of honest wear (i.e. the gray area on Liberty's head).

    I'm still sticking with my AU-55 grade assuming that there's a bit of wear and/or rub. I'd really like to see a larger, better illuminated more detailed photo of it because it appears to be a very attractive coin!!

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • GOLDSAINTGOLDSAINT Posts: 2,148 ✭
    "If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?"

    Ha, Ha, Ha,

    My wife just read that and says YES!!
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    great looking coin... MS is a possibility but a 58 is the more likely grade. I like it.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭✭✭
    appears to be a 55 to me ... if original (which it also appears as) ... could 58

    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The first scan is a min of AU58, as there is no obvious signs of wear. There is some faint luster haze present but it could have dead surfaces too. Anything from 58 to 63 based on this scan. Note that MS64 seated halves often get grade that high with massive rubbing as long as the field luster in intact. I'd guess overall AU58.

    The small photo seems to show a heavy plateaued (flat) area on Liberty's leg. That would make the coin AU55-58 at best. The black mark on Liberty's cheek is typcial of high point friction/oxidation and is seen on originally toned coins "graded" up to MS66....honest!
    Coin looks far worse (or less hidden) in this photo so I'd say AU55.

    roadrunner

    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold

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