Your opinions of this 1870 Two Cent piece please.

Russ · September 13, 2003 8:48AM

It's an ANACS holder, graded MS62RB. It's a Heritage image, so we can reasonably assume more red than is showing. Do you guys think it's accurately graded? Strike look good? Thanks.

Russ, NCNE

wingedliberty · September 13, 2003 8:55AM

Yes, it is accurately graded and a nice coin.
Russ:
Did you check the date for repunching in Kevin Flynn's book "Getting your two cents worth" and in the Cherrypicker's Guide?

lordmarcovan · September 13, 2003 8:56AM

Looks OK to me, aside from its not being a proof...

Russ · September 13, 2003 9:05AM

Brian,

I don't have the coin, so I can't check anything on it. It's one I'm thinking about going after.

Russ, NCNE

mdwoods · September 13, 2003 9:08AM

It seems mighty clean for only a MS62. I wonder if the color is original and untampered with. ANACS sometimes lowers the grade for questionable color coins rather than net grading them. Maybe the color is fine and the luster is a bit on the shy side.

Placid · September 13, 2003 9:47AM

I am seeing green tones on my monitor, most pronounced on the reverse rim.
Sorry I just do not like it for some reason.

pontiacinf · September 13, 2003 9:52AM

doesnt look "russ" nice too me either.

and thats a good thing russ

lordmarcovan · September 13, 2003 9:53AM

It is a bit streaky.

But it's bound to look better than that picture.

darktone · September 13, 2003 10:02AM

Look's nice Russ but I would suspect hairlines in a grade of 62 though as I do in most coins graded 62 if I can't view them in person. Also I see a few area's that look green- probably toning but could be something bad such as verdigris or PVC. mike

Russ · September 13, 2003 10:05AM

The thing about Heritage scans is that their copper always looks like crap. This one looked terrible when they listed it:

Pretty similar to the one above.

Luckily for me, we have a very nice forum member who's going to check it out personally for me in Long Beach. Thanks Mark (mdwoods)!

Russ, NCNE

lordmarcovan · September 13, 2003 10:21AM

ProofProofProofProofProofProof

jdimmick · September 13, 2003 5:56PM

Russ,

I dont think you will like it based on the scan. (Your coin is much nicer.)

I have about the best monitor availble for viewing coins and the Heritage photo's show the coin to be streaky and the detail is a tad mushy.

291fifth · September 13, 2003 9:52PM

<< <i>It seems mighty clean for only a MS62. I wonder if the color is original and untampered with. ANACS sometimes lowers the grade for questionable color coins rather than net grading them. Maybe the color is fine and the luster is a bit on the shy side. >>

Find out the serial number on the holder. If it is of recent vintage it is probably original. ANACS has been very picky about retoned copper recently. Why do you want an MS62? Not a very desirable grade in terms of resale.

BigD5 · September 13, 2003 10:59PM

Hopefully more red than the image shows for the RB designation. The leaves to the left and right of the shield look "soft", also the bow on the reverse, as well as the reverse leaves. If the luster is good, it's probably a good coin. If the luster is muted, accompanied with the "softish" details, I could see the coin ending up in an au/58 holder.
I like the coin (no spots or major problems seen in the scan), to own it, it would depend on what the price was. 62's can be funny grades.

BillJones · September 14, 2003 12:18AM

I think that the color has been "enhanced" to bring up the red that you see. Still that sort of thing is to be expected for an MS-62 or even an MS-63. For less than $100, I can't see a problem here.

As for the sharpness, it's been my experience that many if not all 1870 Two Cent pieces are weakly struck. When I was collecting a set of Two Cent pieces in EF back in the late 1970s ** the 1870 that I found for my set was weakly struck. It would have taken very little wear for that coin to have gone from EF-40 to Fine-12 or VG-10. The relief on the devices was really low.

**NOTE back in the late 1970s inflation was ruining the economy and people were buying "things." The coin market was going nuts, and many collectors were being priced out of the market. That's why I was collecting Two Cent pieces in EF. "Real" collectors never want to go back to a time like that again!

stujoe · September 14, 2003 12:32AM

I would go with some of the other comments (based solely on the picture)...it seems streaky and splotchy to me. The pic 'may' be a little out of focus (or over compressed) and that might be causing the strike to look worse than it is but it is hard to tell for sure.

It doesn't do much for me just from the picture but ou seem to know a lot about Heritage's photos so you may get a nicer coin than what I see on my monitorn.

dorkkarl · September 15, 2003 9:34PM

mildly positive reaction.

K S

Your opinions of this 1870 Two Cent piece please.

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