1804 Dollar for sale

theboz11 · July 29, 2003 9:05PM

Is this real or just another sharp one being pulled on the unexpecting.link

ursabear · July 29, 2003 9:10PM

I can't tell from the pictures if it is real or not.

However, if I had an 1804 US dollar in my hands, I'd spend the $30-$50 to find out with PCGS. That wouldn't be such a big gamble to take given the (extremely slim) chance of authenticity. If it is a fake, it would have been a gamble, if it is real, it would have been very much worth it to have it authenticated.

coinguy1 · July 29, 2003 9:42PM

Definitely not the real thing.

1jester · July 29, 2003 10:17PM

Pardon my ignorance, but I thought all legit 1804 Dollars had been accounted for. Are there still some real ones out there?

Funny, click on properties and the seller has listed it correctly, "false"!!

nwcs · July 29, 2003 10:46PM

Oh there are more 1804 dollars out there. Problem is they are all dated 1803...

Louis · July 29, 2003 11:30PM

baccaruda · July 29, 2003 11:39PM

We're starting it $100 to protect our investment

Yeah right. How many think he paid more than $5 for this thing?

I like the way he suggests it might be real. If you had an 1804 dollar and were 1% curious about it's authenticity, tell me you wouldn't shell out the $30 to find out for sure.

Conder101 · July 30, 2003 1:44AM

<< <i>Pardon my ignorance, but I thought all legit 1804 Dollars had been accounted for. Are there still some real ones out there? >>

That's what they thought up until early 1962 then the King of Siam set turned up. Also since they obviously didn't keep records of the number of restrikes they made, how can you ever be sure they have all turned up? Third, when the class II specimens were being peddled and the mint took steps to recover all of them, there were reports at the time that one of the class II's was sent out of the country and not returned. To date that rumored second class II specimen has never turned up. Did it ever really exist? Who knows. But if it did, it may still exist out there somewhere and may still turn up again someday.

Typetone · July 30, 2003 1:50AM

Any chance it could be a real bust dollar with an altered date?

Greg

legacycoin · July 30, 2003 2:07AM

Looks like a cast counterfit. Not a chance that it's even an altered common date Bust$.

billboat · July 30, 2003 2:15AM

A total fake--with five or six days left on the auction, I am curious to see how much someone with more money than brains will pay for it. Also note the TOS "all sales are" provision. Obviously a seller who agrees with Woody Allen--take the money and run!!

theboz11 · July 30, 2003 2:16AM

Sent him an email, How rude he was! Told me that if I did not have a bid on the coin to mind my own business.

billboat · July 30, 2003 2:19AM

Sorry, last post should say "all sales are final". Also, description says that it may be "partially genuine'--akin to "partially pregnant" I guess.

billboat · July 30, 2003 2:22AM

I'm posting too quickly--"genuine in some way" it what the auction actually says--but my point is the same.

Russ · July 30, 2003 2:24AM

This seller is a frequent topic here for the questionable material he's unloading on eBay. "Seriouscoins" is a serious scammer.

What about this 1893-S Morgan?

Any Morgan experts hanging out that can take a look at that one?

Russ, NCNE

legacycoin · July 30, 2003 2:34AM

The mintmark on the 1893-S looks ok but I wouldn't make a final decision without seeing it in person. As far as the grade goes, "EF/AU details"??? More like a harshly cleaned VF.....

legacycoin · July 30, 2003 2:36AM

Hold on.... after looking at the images again, I'm wondering if the enlarged picture of the MM is the same coin.....

billboat · July 30, 2003 2:59AM

As I recall, there is a diagnostic for an authentic 93-s. I believe it's something to do with a defect in one of the letters in Liberty. Can anyone explain the diagnostic or post a picture? Also, isn't there a difference in the denticles (assuming the date isn't altered) between San Francisco and other mints?

JxnBoy · July 30, 2003 3:52AM

I believe it was this date K6AZ pointed something out about the way the S lines up with the denticles. I can't find that thread, but I'm not sure the picture is clear enough anyway.

David

1jester · July 30, 2003 5:32AM

Thanks, Conder!

MRK · July 30, 2003 8:53AM

I've seen a few of these lately showing up at the flea markets. They're being offered for about $20.00.

my3cents · July 30, 2003 9:07AM

SeriousCoins 1 neg:

Complaint : got a BB pcgs AU he said was 63, not like photo. No more "As Is" here, Beware!
Response by seriouscoins - Sellers Beware! Buyer received "exact" coin pictured, a Beauty! Just a JERK!!!

Looks like he really took the guy - it sold for $1,700!

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