Grade these two Monster Neon 1913 Buffaloes...

airplanenut · May 31, 2003 1:00PM

They are so pretty... gotta love my new Reveal bulbs... they are amazing!

Type 1

Type 2...

Jeremy

FatMan · May 31, 2003 1:03PM

I don't know enough to grade buffaloes but those sure are Purdy!

mdwoods · May 31, 2003 1:09PM

I won't try and grade them either, but I will say you took some fantastic photos. Very, very nice. the colors are great.
Keep up the good work, I'll need some lessons in Baltimore. mdwoods

FatMan · May 31, 2003 1:09PM

Hey Jeremy, the more I look at those the more I wonder if your Dad ever had them in his possession

MrKelso · May 31, 2003 1:13PM

It's a beautiful thing

MacCoin · May 31, 2003 1:18PM

I like the type 1 much better than the flat ground on the type 2s

tsacch · May 31, 2003 1:21PM

Wow, 65's for eye appeal...........but i am not the best at buffalo's.........far from knowledgable

airplanenut · May 31, 2003 1:22PM

Mark,

The reveal bulbs did it... I'm gonna do a post on them tomorrow- wait until you see the other stuff I shot!

John,

You suck

michael · May 31, 2003 1:33PM

wow both coins have great eye appeal

i like the first one even better!

sincerely michael

jonesy · May 31, 2003 1:36PM

Put these on the Buffalo thread of uscoins!!

boz · May 31, 2003 3:49PM

When you do your post tomorrow, please mention the wattage of the bulbs.

SarasotaFrank · May 31, 2003 5:39PM

from a wear standpoint, they look about XF-40.

Nice color though.

MrKelso · May 31, 2003 8:44PM

<< Mark,

The reveal bulbs did it... I'm gonna do a post on them tomorrow- wait until you see the other stuff I shot!

John,

You suck

>>

Which wattage reveal bulbs did you get and what kind of a lamp did you put them in?

airplanenut · May 31, 2003 10:27PM

60 watt, cheapest desk lamp I could get.

Frank, no way they're XF... if they're circulated, they've got to be around AU-58...

Coulport · May 31, 2003 11:13PM

I'd love to buy coins like that for XF money!

FatMan · May 31, 2003 11:37PM

<< John,

You suck

>>

Play nice.

tsacch · May 31, 2003 11:45PM

Those buffs are a min of 58, but closer to 63/65 they are so hard to grade for me b/c of the strike quality and low relief.

MacCoin · May 31, 2003 11:45PM

my early buffs are in pcgs type 1 MS64 and type 2 MS63 holders and both yours look more like the type 2 about the same weak strick as on yours. personly I don't care for that kind of toning. I like the deep colored rim toning myself

BigD5 · June 1, 2003 3:44AM

Nice pic's Airplanenut! I love the color. I'll also think that the coins aren't Unc. Type 1's are known for very sharp strikes, and yours is either very weakly struck ( a possibility), or worn. The second coin looks more like wear than weakly struck.
Look at the bison's head, and the lack of detail, and also the lack of definition at the tail. The braid area on both coins is also lacking detail, quite a bit in fact.
Believe me, I'm not poopooing the coins. I LIKE the look of those two coins.

jonesy · June 1, 2003 3:47AM

I wonder about the color.

SarasotaFrank · June 1, 2003 4:21AM

<< 
Frank, no way they're XF... if they're circulated, they've got to be around AU-58... >>

IF they're circulated????

Start with the horn on the reverse and work your way out to the shagginess of the Buffalo head. WHile teh horn is full, the head is worn on both - more than AU, in my opinion.

Also, check out where the tail comes back around over the hind quarter. It is faded in at the end.

Likewise on the obverse, check the feathers as well as the band around the hair. No detail.

They may not be 40, but they certainly aren't 58.

rd5425 · June 1, 2003 4:33AM

Is it just me or do these look AT to anybody else?

airplanenut · June 1, 2003 6:43AM

<< Also, check out where the tail comes back around over the hind quarter. It is faded in at the end.

Likewise on the obverse, check the feathers as well as the band around the hair. No detail. >>

The tail and band near the hair look just like those on my 38-D... which is slabbed as a 66.

There's no flat part on the hind that is the absolute giveaway of circulation...

SarasotaFrank · June 1, 2003 7:17AM

<< 

<< Also, check out where the tail comes back around over the hind quarter. It is faded in at the end.

Likewise on the obverse, check the feathers as well as the band around the hair. No detail. >>

The tail and band near the hair look just like those on my 38-D... which is slabbed as a 66.

There's no flat part on the hind that is the absolute giveaway of circulation... >>

if either of those are 66, I am incredibly stupid and have no business even looking at coins let alone buying them.

airplanenut · June 1, 2003 7:28AM

<< if either of those are 66, I am incredibly stupid and have no business even looking at coins let alone buying them. >>

I don't think they're 66, I'm just stating that I see pretty much the same features on these buffs as my 66. Could the toning be showing in such a way at parts to look like additional wear?

Grade these two Monster Neon 1913 Buffaloes...

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