Yet Another eBay $T Fake

keoj · March 14, 2003 10:17PM

I know that this is an ad nauseum post (redundant) but fro those of you who are considering this coin, it is a fake.

BAD T$ Coin

keoj

MadMarty · March 14, 2003 10:22PM

But it's Genuine guaranteed!!! LOL

fcloud · March 14, 2003 10:40PM

Can you please give us none trade dollar collectors the reason it is a fake?

I would be nice to learn why.

Tony

kobrakoins · March 15, 2003 2:22AM

Looks whizzed

jom · March 15, 2003 2:32AM

I don't know if it's been whizzed but it was probably cleaned at the very least.

Yes, I'd like to know why how one can see with this pic this coin is a fake. Do tell.

jom

shirohniichan · March 15, 2003 3:03AM

This is a scan of a genuine type 1 reverse. A genuine type 1 reverse has neck feathers that separate from the shoulder feathers and a berry between the eagle's left talons (viewer's right).

Here is a genuine type 2 reverse. A genuine type 2 reverse doesn't have the berry between the eagle's talons on the right side of the coin, and the neck feathers blend with the shoulder feathers.

The easiest diagnostic to spot on the eBay counterfeit is the mismatch of the neck feathers and the berry under the claw. The fake has type 2 neck feathers (which smoothly blend with the shoulders) with a type 1 berry under the eagle's claw.

Russ · March 15, 2003 3:03AM

I can't believe this guy still has not been shutdown. Every Trade Dollar expert on this forum has pointed him out, and he's been reported to eBay numerous times.

Russ, NCNE

shirohniichan · March 15, 2003 3:11AM

I just edited my previous post to show scans of genuine coins for reference.

Russ · March 15, 2003 3:20AM

<< <i>trysomehonesty(-1) Feb-22-03 14:33:52 PST 3006898471 S
Complaint : WARNING! Seller is a SCAMMER! Told many times his trade dollars are fake!!
trysomehonesty(-1) Feb-22-03 14:33:52 PST 3006801654 S
Complaint : WARNING! Seller is a SCAMMER! Told many times his trade dollars are fake!!
trysomehonesty(-1) Feb-22-03 14:33:20 PST 3005611424 S
Complaint : WARNING! Seller is a SCAMMER! Told many times his trade dollars are fake!!
trysomehonesty(-1) Feb-22-03 14:32:36 PST 3005610801 S
Complaint : WARNING: Seller is a scammer!! Told many times his Trade Dollars are FAKE! >>

At least somebody is trying to slow this slimeball down.

Russ, NCNE

fcloud · March 15, 2003 6:21AM

shirohniichan,

Thanks for pointing out the differences!

Tony

FatMan · March 15, 2003 6:55AM

shirohniichan,

Thanks for the lesson.

TWODOGS · March 15, 2003 6:58AM

THIS is why I like these boards. Thanks Shiroh.

parkave · March 15, 2003 7:04AM

Here is some additional info on fake trade dollars. Some of these die cast fakes are virtually undectable if you dont know what your looking for. This article points out several marks tht are on every fake, all in the sames location.

FAKE TRADE DOLLAR ARTICLE

Bigern · March 15, 2003 7:08AM

Thanks for all the great info guys. I dont feel sorry for these newbies it all there in black and white in his feedbacks.

satootoko · March 15, 2003 8:19AM

What a GREAT thread. This kind of education is priceless.

AtcBob · March 15, 2003 9:19AM

I wrote to these folks this morning that had put a bid on this piece o' crappola, and told them this was a fake.(Carla_Bob) they wrote back and thanked me. Why does this guy get away wit this?

Bidding History (Highest bids first)
User ID Bid Amount Date of Bid
rraichi(95) - Mar-15-03 09:27:38 PST
rraichi(95) - Mar-15-03 09:19:17 PST
rraichi(95) - Mar-15-03 09:16:55 PST
rraichi(95) - Mar-15-03 09:09:35 PST
oscarsgold(26) - Mar-14-03 23:54:19 PST
time-trader(3455) - Mar-14-03 23:32:07 PST

Bid amount protected until close of auction. Remember that earlier bids of the same amount take precedence.

Bid Retraction and Cancellation History
User ID Action / Explanation Date of bid and retraction
carla_and_bob(2) Retracted
Explanation:Entered wrong bid amount Bid:Mar-15-03 06:09:58 PST
RetractedMar-15-03 15:49:59 PST

copperhead · March 15, 2003 9:22AM

Great info Shiro. THANKS for the lesson.

TWQG · March 15, 2003 9:54AM

a genuine type two reverse ala shiro.

keoj · March 15, 2003 10:25AM

Gang:

Sorry about that!!!!!!! I just had enough time this morning to dash off a quick note and didn't have time to discuss the diagnostics (thanks Shiro!!!!!!!). Shiro was absolutely correct! There are a couple of more diagnostics that I've had to use for really good fakes (like counting reeds!!!) but this one was relatively obvious. Some non-genuine trade dollars that I've looked at were masterfully made. Again, thanks to Shiro for the great pics!
keoj

Bigern · March 15, 2003 11:29AM

Nice job AtcBob. Kudos to you my friend.

segoja · March 15, 2003 12:41PM

How low will Ebay go????

I thought a power seller had to have 98% feedback rating.

Maybe I'm wrong, but seems to me someone with this type of rating should be shut down and quick.

I think ebay cares more about it's sellers than its buyers.

This guy even makes Pepperdoodles look good.

Guess that tells us exactly where this seller stands.

Great thread for allerting everyone to the facts and the truth.

doops · March 23, 2003 3:13PM

<< <i>How low will Ebay go????

I thought a power seller had to have 98% feedback rating.

Maybe I'm wrong, but seems to me someone with this type of rating should be shut down and quick.

I think ebay cares more about it's sellers than its buyers.

This guy even makes Pepperdoodles look good.

Guess that tells us exactly where this seller stands.

Great thread for allerting everyone to the facts and the truth. >>

punk,we have honor,integrity and dignity. we do QUITE well. YOU are a whiney baby. enough already

Yet Another eBay $T Fake

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