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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Floridafacelifter said:
    Here’s the I smell a rat story
    I owned this coin for five years as a MS66 CAC
    Sent it to PCGS twice, most recently six months ago, for reconsideration for specimen or upgrade

    Then I got a good offer and sold it
    Now almost immediately it’s a SP66 CAC

    I smell a rat- and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding our host and “insider influence.” I know I cannot call into the grading room and influence a decision but obviously there are people who can. You know who you are….

    I think I have a legitimate gripe that probably cost me a lot of money but I’m not a troublemaker- but I certainly won’t EVER forget…

    Had a dealer I had never met send me a picture of one of my coins in the grading room before. Had to pick my jaw up off the floor.

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    Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FlyingAl said:

    @Floridafacelifter said:
    Here’s the I smell a rat story
    I owned this coin for five years as a MS66 CAC
    Sent it to PCGS twice, most recently six months ago, for reconsideration for specimen or upgrade

    Then I got a good offer and sold it
    Now almost immediately it’s a SP66 CAC

    I smell a rat- and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding our host and “insider influence.” I know I cannot call into the grading room and influence a decision but obviously there are people who can. You know who you are….

    I think I have a legitimate gripe that probably cost me a lot of money but I’m not a troublemaker- but I certainly won’t EVER forget…

    Had a dealer I had never met send me a picture of one of my coins in the grading room before. Had to pick my jaw up off the floor.

    Is that supposed to happen?
    Dealers in the grading room??

    Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
    Successful BST transactions with: Namvet Justindan Mattniss RWW olah_in_MA
    Dantheman984 Toyz4geo SurfinxHI greencopper RWW bigjpst bretsan MWallace logger7 JWP BruceS bigjpst
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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Morgan13 said:

    @FlyingAl said:

    @Floridafacelifter said:
    Here’s the I smell a rat story
    I owned this coin for five years as a MS66 CAC
    Sent it to PCGS twice, most recently six months ago, for reconsideration for specimen or upgrade

    Then I got a good offer and sold it
    Now almost immediately it’s a SP66 CAC

    I smell a rat- and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding our host and “insider influence.” I know I cannot call into the grading room and influence a decision but obviously there are people who can. You know who you are….

    I think I have a legitimate gripe that probably cost me a lot of money but I’m not a troublemaker- but I certainly won’t EVER forget…

    Had a dealer I had never met send me a picture of one of my coins in the grading room before. Had to pick my jaw up off the floor.

    Is that supposed to happen?
    Dealers in the grading room??

    Grader contacted the dealer from the grading room.

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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2026 5:30PM








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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2026 5:38PM

    @Floridafacelifter said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Floridafacelifter said:
    Here’s the I smell a rat story
    I owned this coin for five years as a MS66 CAC
    Sent it to PCGS twice, most recently six months ago, for reconsideration for specimen or upgrade

    Then I got a good offer and sold it
    Now almost immediately it’s a SP66 CAC

    I smell a rat- and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding our host and “insider influence.” I know I cannot call into the grading room and influence a decision but obviously there are people who can. You know who you are….

    I think that a grade/designation change in such a short time period on such an easily recognizable coin, is at best, inexcusable.

    Edited to add: I’m confused by your time line, as I see that the coin was auctioned in January of this year. When you said “Then I got a good offer and sold it”, did you mean that you were the consignor to this sale? :
    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1926314/1795-Flowing-Hair-Silver-Dollar-B-7-BB-18-3-Leaves-PCGS-MS-66-CAC-Green-Toned-Ex-Bullowa-Pogue-Collections

    I sent my entire collection of dollars to PCGS including this one, all my proof Morgans and proof Peace

    It was a concierge level walk through involving JD and very expensive by the way

    I then sold the coin and the person who I sold it to placed it up for auction

    Subsequently it is now a SP66

    All this happened in a very short 6-9 month window

    And it’s not like this was a new discovery coin- this coin has been well known from its raw days with Catherine Bullowa and then on to Pogue

    So yeah I have some hard feelings about this one….

    Humor me on the 1795.... Why is it "Subsequently it is now a SP66" - as if "SP" had any legitimate meaning.... :)

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    FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:

    @Floridafacelifter said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Floridafacelifter said:
    Here’s the I smell a rat story
    I owned this coin for five years as a MS66 CAC
    Sent it to PCGS twice, most recently six months ago, for reconsideration for specimen or upgrade

    Then I got a good offer and sold it
    Now almost immediately it’s a SP66 CAC

    I smell a rat- and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding our host and “insider influence.” I know I cannot call into the grading room and influence a decision but obviously there are people who can. You know who you are….

    I think that a grade/designation change in such a short time period on such an easily recognizable coin, is at best, inexcusable.

    Edited to add: I’m confused by your time line, as I see that the coin was auctioned in January of this year. When you said “Then I got a good offer and sold it”, did you mean that you were the consignor to this sale? :
    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1926314/1795-Flowing-Hair-Silver-Dollar-B-7-BB-18-3-Leaves-PCGS-MS-66-CAC-Green-Toned-Ex-Bullowa-Pogue-Collections

    I sent my entire collection of dollars to PCGS including this one, all my proof Morgans and proof Peace

    It was a concierge level walk through involving JD and very expensive by the way

    I then sold the coin and the person who I sold it to placed it up for auction

    Subsequently it is now a SP66

    All this happened in a very short 6-9 month window

    And it’s not like this was a new discovery coin- this coin has been well known from its raw days with Catherine Bullowa and then on to Pogue

    So yeah I have some hard feelings about this one….

    Humor me.... Why is it "Subsequently it is now a SP66" - as if "SP had any legitimate meaning.... :)

    Haha yes and I don’t disagree- but SP=$$

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you saying that no reason for the meaningless designation was given, or anything about why the coin you formerly owned suddenly became a different critter? (Reminds me of "1921 proof $20s" that were struck from clashed dies and don't match other sandblast proofs.)

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    FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    Are you saying that no reason for the meaningless designation was given, or anything about why the coin you formerly owned suddenly became a different critter? (Reminds me of "1921 proof $20s" that were struck from clashed dies and don't match other sandblast proofs.)

    I wasn’t privy to any of it
    Seems fishy or at the very least demonstrates how inconsistent the TPGs can be

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    lermishlermish Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 5, 2026 5:41AM

    @MFeld said:

    @ambro51 said:







    Wrong thread.

    He's just piqued about the existence of this thread, couldn't let it go, and now thinks he's being clever.

    chopmarkedtradedollars.com

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,337 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinbert said:

    That is absolutely stunning.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 5, 2026 5:43AM

    @david3142

    The 1971 is probably the prettiest Eisenhower Dollar I have ever seen. Is it from the Peacock Hoard?

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    P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All from my Washington Quarter toner set.




    Superb collections are built more by omission than by addition.

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    david3142david3142 Posts: 3,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    @david3142

    The 1971 is probably the prettiest Eisenhower Dollar I have ever seen. Is it from the Peacock Hoard?

    @cameonut2011 said:
    @david3142

    The 1971 is probably the prettiest Eisenhower Dollar I have ever seen. Is it from the Peacock Hoard?

    That is quite a compliment, thank you! It is one of several I got from @segoja several years ago. I’m not sure if they were part of the Peacock hoard or not.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @MFeld said:

    @ambro51 said:







    Wrong thread.

    He's just piqued about the existence of this thread, couldn't let it go, and now thinks he's being clever.

    PCGS can’t tell the difference between red and blue. Neither can you.

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    GuzziSportGuzziSport Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D the rim toning on that Morgan is simply stunning….

    Other passions include golf, Moto Guzzi motorcycles, and Euro motorcycles in general.
    Chris

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    Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FlyingAl said:

    @Morgan13 said:

    @FlyingAl said:

    @Floridafacelifter said:
    Here’s the I smell a rat story
    I owned this coin for five years as a MS66 CAC
    Sent it to PCGS twice, most recently six months ago, for reconsideration for specimen or upgrade

    Then I got a good offer and sold it
    Now almost immediately it’s a SP66 CAC

    I smell a rat- and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding our host and “insider influence.” I know I cannot call into the grading room and influence a decision but obviously there are people who can. You know who you are….

    I think I have a legitimate gripe that probably cost me a lot of money but I’m not a troublemaker- but I certainly won’t EVER forget…

    Had a dealer I had never met send me a picture of one of my coins in the grading room before. Had to pick my jaw up off the floor.

    Is that supposed to happen?
    Dealers in the grading room??

    Grader contacted the dealer from the grading room.

    I am sorry my interpretation was incorrect.....

    Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
    Successful BST transactions with: Namvet Justindan Mattniss RWW olah_in_MA
    Dantheman984 Toyz4geo SurfinxHI greencopper RWW bigjpst bretsan MWallace logger7 JWP BruceS bigjpst
    JWP PROMETHIUS88

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 5, 2026 8:14AM

    Norway 1902 2 Kr- straight grade

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

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    Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gorgeous coins so far folks!

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    Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,524 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @ambro51 said:







    Wrong thread.

    Nah, the point was to start a thread on gorgeous eye appealing coins and I think I see a touch of blue in there.........

    My online coin store - https://desertmoonnm.com/
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    psuman08psuman08 Posts: 438 ✭✭✭✭


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    ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭✭

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Desert Moon said:

    @MFeld said:

    @ambro51 said:







    Wrong thread.

    Nah, the point was to start a thread on gorgeous eye appealing coins and I think I see a touch of blue in there.........

    By golly, you’re right - I see blue on each one of them (as long as this is a pretend game).

    Here are a couple more coins (which I can pretend “I think I can see a touch of blue in there”):


    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    bretsanbretsan Posts: 257 ✭✭✭



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