I’m surprised you mentioned your Morgan dollars previously, but not this coin.
I’ll guess AU58 but a higher grade wouldn’t surprise me.
I collect dollars, but just a smattering of each series. But my fav is seated civil war era dollars. I only own 1 Peace dollar in a capital plastics holder. Have always been thinking about sending it in for grading, just haven't yet, its a 1921.
I cannot locate any history on it and fortunately or unfortunately it is entombed in an old anacs holder. Which like everyone constantly tell me I should get it into a pcgs holder and then off to cac. But for a guy thats going to keep it I will leave it be where it's at. I know its worth a lot more in the so-called right clothes (ie a pcgs cac tomb) but I have never played the crack out game before (although I have nothing against that procedure). I will put in my sweatshirt pocket as I am placed under a big ole oak tree to decompose. lol
Place a photo of your $1 collection altogether. I have a feeling they will all be of similar coloring/toning. JMO
Would like to see them. Thanks for sharing.
Jim
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@Morgan13 said: @CivilWarBuff would you mind posting an image of the coin in its holder would you post it in the slab.
I would really appreciate seeing it.
Unfortunately the dbd is in the sdb. But trust me its in an old anacs holder.
The question is why it hasn't been crossed. That makes me wonder (1) whether there is a hidden issue or (2) whether the label grade is much higher than we all expect.
The question is why it hasn't been crossed. That makes me wonder (1) whether there is a hidden issue or (2) whether the label grade is much higher than we all expect.
Or
3) there’s no hidden issue and the grade’s not higher than we all expect, but no one thought or cared about trying to cross it.
Many posters here would be shocked at how many deserving coins haven’t been tried for crossover or upgrade. There are still great coins that haven’t seen the light of day in a very long time.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I think I can answer that question adequately. I have owned for years but the older gentleman I purchased it from was a long time collector for years. I met him through a mutual coin comrade and we got friendly. He told me about an entire collection of incredible classic coins in old ANACS holders that he has been holding on to that he was thinking of finally selling due to his sinking health. I told him that I had been collecting bust & seated dollars and he showed me this one . I jumped on it and he had seated dollars to show me and he past away. I assume his family was next in line. I believe I acquired it approximately 10 years ago.
Like I said I have never crossed anything, not that it wouldn't be more valuable but I paid up for this as if it were in a pcgs holder at the time because he had his nonnegotiable prices and I always agree with the adage the opportunity is sometimes the most important factor or something along those lines.
The question is why it hasn't been crossed. That makes me wonder (1) whether there is a hidden issue or (2) whether the label grade is much higher than we all expect.
Or
3) there’s no hidden issue and the grade’s not higher than we all expect, but no one thought or cared about trying to cross it.
Many posters here would be shocked at how many deserving coins haven’t been tried for crossover or upgrade. There are still great coins that haven’t seen the light of day in a very long time.
You're not wrong, and I always advocate the coin over the plastic. But statistically speaking, the odds are against you especially on early federal coinage.
@CivilWarBuff said:
I think I can answer that question adequately. I have owned for years but the older gentleman I purchased it from was a long time collector for years. I met him through a mutual coin comrade and we got friendly. He told me about an entire collection of incredible classic coins in old ANACS holders that he has been holding on to that he was thinking of finally selling due to his sinking health. I told him that I had been collecting bust & seated dollars and he showed me this one . I jumped on it and he had seated dollars to show me and he past away. I assume his family was next in line. I believe I acquired it approximately 10 years ago.
Like I said I have never crossed anything, not that it wouldn't be more valuable but I paid up for this as if it were in a pcgs holder at the time because he had his nonnegotiable prices and I always agree with the adage the opportunity is sometimes the most important factor or something along those lines.
Please note that I am not hating on old ANACS. I LOVE the holders and grading over all and have cherry picked many over the years.
I think it is a problem 55 that was improperly rinsed after its 2nd 3rd or 4th dip.. I don't think CAC holders a too dark 2nd skin Small Eagle Bust dollar as 58 which my guess is the ANACS grade but knowing them back them 61 would be in play. I think crossing to PCGS or CACG will be a sad game to play
@CivilWarBuff said:
I think I can answer that question adequately. I have owned for years but the older gentleman I purchased it from was a long time collector for years. I met him through a mutual coin comrade and we got friendly. He told me about an entire collection of incredible classic coins in old ANACS holders that he has been holding on to that he was thinking of finally selling due to his sinking health. I told him that I had been collecting bust & seated dollars and he showed me this one . I jumped on it and he had seated dollars to show me and he past away. I assume his family was next in line. I believe I acquired it approximately 10 years ago.
Like I said I have never crossed anything, not that it wouldn't be more valuable but I paid up for this as if it were in a pcgs holder at the time because he had his nonnegotiable prices and I always agree with the adage the opportunity is sometimes the most important factor or something along those lines.
Who took the photo of this coin, you or the other collector you purchased it from?
I just had the photo taken on 10/12/2026 along with other coins in my collection. The old time collector had no photos of any consequence. That was not his thing apparently. And he was ill at the time. Its time for me to at least get more organized so my partner has the right knowledge and the right access to photos of everything. I will be having surgery soon and I wanted to finely get my act together.
@Crypto said:
I think it is a problem 55 that was improperly rinsed after its 2nd 3rd or 4th dip.. I don't think CAC holders a too dark 2nd skin Small Eagle Bust dollar as 58 which my guess is the ANACS grade but knowing them back them 61 would be in play. I think crossing to PCGS or CACG will be a sad game to play
I would not reject that coin from the photo, although I would have to see it in person before I would pay thousands of dollars for it. Most of the original early silver coins I have a fairly dark to dark. Silver tarnishes during two centuries.
I will post some early dollars later.
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Attractive, but not "original enough" for some. It's an NGC AU-53.
Many of you won't like this one at all. I bought it when I could not afford better. It's NGC graded AU-50
Too dark?
Too dark?
This was once in an old ANACS "soap bar" EF-45 holder. Now it's an NGC AU-55.
Two views of an 1802
Straight on.
At an angle. It is PCGS graded AU-58.
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@Crypto said:
I think it is a problem 55 that was improperly rinsed after its 2nd 3rd or 4th dip.. I don't think CAC holders a too dark 2nd skin Small Eagle Bust dollar as 58 which my guess is the ANACS grade but knowing them back them 61 would be in play. I think crossing to PCGS or CACG will be a sad game to play
I would not reject that coin from the photo, although I would have to see it in person before I would pay thousands of dollars for it. Most of the original early silver coins I have a fairly dark to dark. Silver tarnishes during two centuries.
I will post some early dollars later.
I agree with your posts as I typically do. And agree Bust coinage is almost more guilty when not thickly skined. I think the gloss black is worse than dove greys and an AU58 vs an 45 all come into play when talking about market preferences. The OP's coin is clearly on its multiple instances of skin and its obvious. Most of yours look like 2nd or greater skin too but look lower in the count or older in their development presenting more natural or organic.
The two of yours that look like they don't have market preferred skin is your 95 & 96 but the amount of meat makes them special but their skin is clearly modern era post the 90s maybe 2000s. Your 97 and 1802 look choice and over all it is an elite set, well done.
The total coin grade so to speak, I don't think there is a huge quality gap between the OP's 1795 and yours, both too rich for my blood but I would chose yours as metallic black with blues and greens isn't my cup of tea
@Crypto said:
I think it is a problem 55 that was improperly rinsed after its 2nd 3rd or 4th dip.. I don't think CAC holders a too dark 2nd skin Small Eagle Bust dollar as 58 which my guess is the ANACS grade but knowing them back them 61 would be in play. I think crossing to PCGS or CACG will be a sad game to play
I would not reject that coin from the photo, although I would have to see it in person before I would pay thousands of dollars for it. Most of the original early silver coins I have a fairly dark to dark. Silver tarnishes during two centuries.
I will post some early dollars later.
I agree with your posts as I typically do. And agree Bust coinage is almost more guilty when not thickly skined. I think the gloss black is worse than dove greys and an AU58 vs an 45 all come into play when talking about market preferences. The OP's coin is clearly on its multiple instances of skin and its obvious. Most of yours look like 2nd or greater skin too but look lower in the count or older in their development presenting more natural or organic.
The two of yours that look like they don't have market preferred skin is your 95 & 96 but the amount of meat makes them special but their skin is clearly modern era post the 90s maybe 2000s. Your 97 and 1802 look choice and over all it is an elite set, well done.
The total coin grade so to speak, I don't think there is a huge quality gap between the OP's 1795 and yours, both too rich for my blood but I would chose yours as metallic black with blues and greens isn't my cup of tea
Are there any with the original skin and what would that look like??
FWIW this has been a weird GTG, no I did not see it revealed, this thread is cryptic, and odd.
You just wrote you are having surgery so I hope you do well, eventually some of us would love to see the anacs slab even, or whatever/whenever you get to it, just bring this thread back up, please.
I find the toning on the OP's coin personally.
It may not be original toning but it looks good.
I wouldn't mine owning it at all.
Its above my pay grade though.
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@Crypto said:
I think it is a problem 55 that was improperly rinsed after its 2nd 3rd or 4th dip.. I don't think CAC holders a too dark 2nd skin Small Eagle Bust dollar as 58 which my guess is the ANACS grade but knowing them back them 61 would be in play. I think crossing to PCGS or CACG will be a sad game to play
I would not reject that coin from the photo, although I would have to see it in person before I would pay thousands of dollars for it. Most of the original early silver coins I have a fairly dark to dark. Silver tarnishes during two centuries.
I will post some early dollars later.
I agree with your posts as I typically do. And agree Bust coinage is almost more guilty when not thickly skined. I think the gloss black is worse than dove greys and an AU58 vs an 45 all come into play when talking about market preferences. The OP's coin is clearly on its multiple instances of skin and its obvious. Most of yours look like 2nd or greater skin too but look lower in the count or older in their development presenting more natural or organic.
The two of yours that look like they don't have market preferred skin is your 95 & 96 but the amount of meat makes them special but their skin is clearly modern era post the 90s maybe 2000s. Your 97 and 1802 look choice and over all it is an elite set, well done.
The total coin grade so to speak, I don't think there is a huge quality gap between the OP's 1795 and yours, both too rich for my blood but I would chose yours as metallic black with blues and greens isn't my cup of tea
Are there any with the original skin and what would that look like??
The 1797 dollar in my post is as good as you are going to find. It’s graded EF-45, and I paid AU money for it. I wish all of my early dollars could look like that, but if would take a lifetime and a lot of money to acquire them.
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@Crypto said:
I think it is a problem 55 that was improperly rinsed after its 2nd 3rd or 4th dip.. I don't think CAC holders a too dark 2nd skin Small Eagle Bust dollar as 58 which my guess is the ANACS grade but knowing them back them 61 would be in play. I think crossing to PCGS or CACG will be a sad game to play
I would not reject that coin from the photo, although I would have to see it in person before I would pay thousands of dollars for it. Most of the original early silver coins I have a fairly dark to dark. Silver tarnishes during two centuries.
I will post some early dollars later.
I agree with your posts as I typically do. And agree Bust coinage is almost more guilty when not thickly skined. I think the gloss black is worse than dove greys and an AU58 vs an 45 all come into play when talking about market preferences. The OP's coin is clearly on its multiple instances of skin and its obvious. Most of yours look like 2nd or greater skin too but look lower in the count or older in their development presenting more natural or organic.
The two of yours that look like they don't have market preferred skin is your 95 & 96 but the amount of meat makes them special but their skin is clearly modern era post the 90s maybe 2000s. Your 97 and 1802 look choice and over all it is an elite set, well done.
The total coin grade so to speak, I don't think there is a huge quality gap between the OP's 1795 and yours, both too rich for my blood but I would chose yours as metallic black with blues and greens isn't my cup of tea
Are there any with the original skin and what would that look like??
The 1797 dollar in my post is as good as you are going to find. It’s graded EF-45, and I paid AU money for it. I wish all of my early dollars could look like that, but if would take a lifetime and a lot of money to acquire them.
They look very nice - Thanks for sharing!
I'm just hoping to find a raw one some day, an attic, a dresser, or even in a buried pouch. We can dream right!
@marcmoish said:
FWIW this has been a weird GTG, no I did not see it revealed, this thread is cryptic, and odd.
You just wrote you are having surgery so I hope you do well, eventually some of us would love to see the anacs slab even, or whatever/whenever you get to it, just bring this thread back up, please.
CivilWarBuff Posts: 97 ✭✭✭November 3, 2026 11:00AM
Oh sorry, its in the sdb but to the best of my memory its an AU55.
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@marcmoish said:
FWIW this has been a weird GTG, no I did not see it revealed, this thread is cryptic, and odd.
You just wrote you are having surgery so I hope you do well, eventually some of us would love to see the anacs slab even, or whatever/whenever you get to it, just bring this thread back up, please.
CivilWarBuff Posts: 97 ✭✭✭November 3, 2026 11:00AM
Oh sorry, its in the sdb but to the best of my memory its an AU55.
Sorry for having a poor memory at this time, but I am running to surgeons and have a lot of coins to recall but I believe its a au55, 95% sure but always like to leave 5% for error, which is why I mentioned au55. Its all good.
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Is this a coin that you are pretending to shop for, or one that you are pretending is in your collection?
Now the OP is playing games, why I'm not sure.
My set piece.
AU58?
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Don
If you say so.
Please show a photo of this one in the slab (blurring out the grade, of course).
Thanks!
I’m surprised you mentioned your Morgan dollars previously, but not this coin.
I’ll guess AU58 but a higher grade wouldn’t surprise me.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
58?
I collect dollars, but just a smattering of each series. But my fav is seated civil war era dollars. I only own 1 Peace dollar in a capital plastics holder. Have always been thinking about sending it in for grading, just haven't yet, its a 1921.
58 shot AU62
High grade. Is it in PCGS coinfacts?
I wonder the lineage of this coin.
Regardless of who owns it I think its amazing.
Edited to add my GTG.
AU55
I think it looks better though.
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“High grade” isn’t a grade.
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I cannot locate any history on it and fortunately or unfortunately it is entombed in an old anacs holder. Which like everyone constantly tell me I should get it into a pcgs holder and then off to cac. But for a guy thats going to keep it I will leave it be where it's at. I know its worth a lot more in the so-called right clothes (ie a pcgs cac tomb) but I have never played the crack out game before (although I have nothing against that procedure). I will put in my sweatshirt pocket as I am placed under a big ole oak tree to decompose. lol
Sure it is, it's right under really really good
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
58 here.
If Anacs old holder then AU58.
58, and really nice.
It grades higher than “low grade.” 😂😈
I don’t know about the grade, the OP, provenance, current owner, future acquirer, or anything else.
But that old US silver dollar looks fantastic as pictured!
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Place a photo of your $1 collection altogether. I have a feeling they will all be of similar coloring/toning. JMO
Would like to see them. Thanks for sharing.
Jim
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@CivilWarBuff would you mind posting an image of the coin in its holder would you post it in the slab.
I would really appreciate seeing it.
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Unfortunately the dbd is in the sdb. But trust me its in an old anacs holder.
Yeah, I pretty much agree with other posters. It looks like a 55/58 coin. Not Unc, but close.
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I think I’ve seen that coin posted to these boards before. But it was a while ago.
58.
62
Hey @CivilWarBuff you plan on a slab reveal soon?
Oh sorry, its in the sdb but to the best of my memory its an AU55.
Posted earlier in this thread:
“But trust me its in an old anacs holder”
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
The question is why it hasn't been crossed. That makes me wonder (1) whether there is a hidden issue or (2) whether the label grade is much higher than we all expect.
Or
3) there’s no hidden issue and the grade’s not higher than we all expect, but no one thought or cared about trying to cross it.
Many posters here would be shocked at how many deserving coins haven’t been tried for crossover or upgrade. There are still great coins that haven’t seen the light of day in a very long time.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I think I can answer that question adequately. I have owned for years but the older gentleman I purchased it from was a long time collector for years. I met him through a mutual coin comrade and we got friendly. He told me about an entire collection of incredible classic coins in old ANACS holders that he has been holding on to that he was thinking of finally selling due to his sinking health. I told him that I had been collecting bust & seated dollars and he showed me this one . I jumped on it and he had seated dollars to show me and he past away. I assume his family was next in line. I believe I acquired it approximately 10 years ago.
Like I said I have never crossed anything, not that it wouldn't be more valuable but I paid up for this as if it were in a pcgs holder at the time because he had his nonnegotiable prices and I always agree with the adage the opportunity is sometimes the most important factor or something along those lines.
You're not wrong, and I always advocate the coin over the plastic. But statistically speaking, the odds are against you especially on early federal coinage.
Please note that I am not hating on old ANACS. I LOVE the holders and grading over all and have cherry picked many over the years.
I think it is a problem 55 that was improperly rinsed after its 2nd 3rd or 4th dip.. I don't think CAC holders a too dark 2nd skin Small Eagle Bust dollar as 58 which my guess is the ANACS grade but knowing them back them 61 would be in play. I think crossing to PCGS or CACG will be a sad game to play
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Who took the photo of this coin, you or the other collector you purchased it from?
I just had the photo taken on 10/12/2026 along with other coins in my collection. The old time collector had no photos of any consequence. That was not his thing apparently. And he was ill at the time. Its time for me to at least get more organized so my partner has the right knowledge and the right access to photos of everything. I will be having surgery soon and I wanted to finely get my act together.
I would not reject that coin from the photo, although I would have to see it in person before I would pay thousands of dollars for it. Most of the original early silver coins I have a fairly dark to dark. Silver tarnishes during two centuries.
I will post some early dollars later.
Let's see what you think of these early dollars.
Attractive, but not "original enough" for some. It's an NGC AU-53.
Many of you won't like this one at all. I bought it when I could not afford better. It's NGC graded AU-50
Too dark?
Too dark?
This was once in an old ANACS "soap bar" EF-45 holder. Now it's an NGC AU-55.
Two views of an 1802
Straight on.
At an angle. It is PCGS graded AU-58.
I agree with your posts as I typically do. And agree Bust coinage is almost more guilty when not thickly skined. I think the gloss black is worse than dove greys and an AU58 vs an 45 all come into play when talking about market preferences. The OP's coin is clearly on its multiple instances of skin and its obvious. Most of yours look like 2nd or greater skin too but look lower in the count or older in their development presenting more natural or organic.
The two of yours that look like they don't have market preferred skin is your 95 & 96 but the amount of meat makes them special but their skin is clearly modern era post the 90s maybe 2000s. Your 97 and 1802 look choice and over all it is an elite set, well done.
The total coin grade so to speak, I don't think there is a huge quality gap between the OP's 1795 and yours, both too rich for my blood but I would chose yours as metallic black with blues and greens isn't my cup of tea
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
62
Are there any with the original skin and what would that look like??
FWIW this has been a weird GTG, no I did not see it revealed, this thread is cryptic, and odd.
You just wrote you are having surgery so I hope you do well, eventually some of us would love to see the anacs slab even, or whatever/whenever you get to it, just bring this thread back up, please.
I find the toning on the OP's coin personally.
It may not be original toning but it looks good.
I wouldn't mine owning it at all.
Its above my pay grade though.
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The 1797 dollar in my post is as good as you are going to find. It’s graded EF-45, and I paid AU money for it. I wish all of my early dollars could look like that, but if would take a lifetime and a lot of money to acquire them.
They look very nice - Thanks for sharing!
I'm just hoping to find a raw one some day, an attic, a dresser, or even in a buried pouch. We can dream right!
CivilWarBuff Posts: 97 ✭✭✭November 3, 2026 11:00AM
Oh sorry, its in the sdb but to the best of my memory its an AU55.
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CU #3245 B.N.A. #428
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Sorry for having a poor memory at this time, but I am running to surgeons and have a lot of coins to recall but I believe its a au55, 95% sure but always like to leave 5% for error, which is why I mentioned au55. Its all good.