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Let's see some collectible restrikes
MWallace
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I'll start with this one:
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MS 68! Nice one.
I've got a few of the bronze Bashlow Confederate cents that I should consider slabbing. I have one Goldine, but I never did pick up a silver while they were relatively cheap.
I did buy an off-metal version in tin (50 made) for $36. 😯 I should get that one slabbed, but it looks so nice in its original red Capitol Plastics holder.
Is a restrike the same as an over strike or over struck?
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I think "restrike" implies that the original dies or hubs were used.
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If I'm fully understanding your question, not to me.
Okay, thank you gents!
My understanding of it as well
Probably late in 1870, when 1871 dies were being prepared, the top of the D in UNITED was "broken" in the half dime obverse hub. This is evident in that a couple 1871 half dime obverses have a perfect D, but most (as well as all 1872 and 1873) have the broken D. Interestingly, late in 1870, there must have been a need for new 1870 dies, which were made with the broken D, while all older 1870 dies have the perfect D.
What does this have to do with restrikes? There are a few 1863 and 1864 dated proof half dimes with the broken D. The dies for those coins must have been made in late 1870 or later. Thus, those coins are restrikes. These obverse dies are the same ones used for the off-metal 1863 and 1864 half dimes listed in Judd.
The only 1864 I've ever seen escaped my grasp in the last year or two. But I do own the two 1863 examples known to me. Here they are:
and here is my 1864 J-378
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In the 19th century, medals were issued for presidential campaigns. There were collectors for these medals, but most of them probably started to collect after the large cent was discontinued in 1857,
Here is an example of the original medal for Windfield Scott who ran unsuccessfully for president in 1852. It is holed and made of white metal. White medal was usually made of lead, zinc and maybe tin. It was cheaper than copper or bronze and softer. It was easier to strike and did not wear out the dies as quickly, BUT it is more prone to wear and scratches, and nasty type of corrosion collectors call "tin pest." These pieces were not made to last. They were made for a presidential campaign.
Here is a restrike, which was made for collectors, probably in the 1860s. It is made of bronze. It's more attractive, but it is not an original political piece. It's a matter of taste as to which piece you would like to collect.
There rarity and prices between the two are similar, or at least they were when I bought them years ago.
1959 Collis Restrike in silver, finest known...
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I knew you'd show up with the WBV Collis restrikes.
Real nice set! I was able to pick up a 2.5 and 10 dollar example a couple years ago NGC slabbed. One day hope to come across a $5 to add.
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There is one listed on eBay now. It has been on there quite some time because the seller is asking $1,000 for it.
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Here is the other packaging that these sets came it:
The “restrike” Fugio’s from the 1860’s were not struck using original dies. They are novelty items which are avidly collected.
That’s my understanding as well.
An over struck coin usually means a coin struck earlier as something else, was then used as a planchet to strike a new coin onto. There are examples of colonial coins being used to strike large cents on, as well as previously struck large cents being cut down and then struck as half cents. Usually some of the under type is still visible on the new coin, making it an interesting collectible.
The older restrikes were made possible because the mint used to retain old (usually cracked) retired dies, and sell them for scrap metal. Some enterprising people realized they could make new key dates, such as the 1804 and 1823 large cents, by using the scrap dies and striking coins with them, long after they were originally issued. These were readily identifiable, and considered fakes and abominations, but like many things, they are now valuable in their own right, and highly collectible.
Here's a pair I sold last year.
Jim
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