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Is this mint error authentic or counterfeit?

jt88jt88 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

Can some of the Mint error expert give me your opinion on this mint error coin; authentic or counterfeit?





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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,952 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is the one side incuse instead of raised? It looks promising.

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    jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Totally real, and very nice

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2026 10:11PM

    I’m hardly an expert on Kennedy’s, but my initial questions were, first, if the hair detail was unusually poor, and second, if the edge should show more signs of copper. My first question has been resolved by comparing it to the coin below. The second question I leave to the Kennedy experts.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    jt88jt88 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is 40% silver

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    gonzergonzer Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A very real off center strike with a brockage reverse..

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see no reason to doubt it.

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks real and very cool especially it being a 40 percenter!

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    where did you see it?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
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    jt88jt88 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    where did you see it?

    is this question for me? Not sure what you are asking.

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    jt88jt88 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reason I asked about this coin is that PCGS put it in a body bag (86 Authenticity Unverifiable). The coin looks real to me, so that's why I want to see what others' opinions are on the coin. I am wondering why PCGS did not want to grade it, because I'm not a big mint error dealer.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,173 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A 40 %er is first for me like that is a first here. Im starting to like even more now 👍

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jt88 said:
    The reason I asked about this coin is that PCGS put it in a body bag (86 Authenticity Unverifiable). The coin looks real to me, so that's why I want to see what others' opinions are on the coin. I am wondering why PCGS did not want to grade it, because I'm not a big mint error dealer.

    FYI, there was a deceptive group of die-struck counterfeit errors that came out of Bulgaria.

    I would ask what @Byers , @FredWeinberg , and @SullivanNumismatics think of it.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,952 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jt88 said:
    The reason I asked about this coin is that PCGS put it in a body bag (86 Authenticity Unverifiable). The coin looks real to me, so that's why I want to see what others' opinions are on the coin. I am wondering why PCGS did not want to grade it, because I'm not a big mint error dealer.

    they did not say counterfeit - > it would be worth a trip to NGC or ANACS for another opinion

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:

    @jt88 said:
    The reason I asked about this coin is that PCGS put it in a body bag (86 Authenticity Unverifiable). The coin looks real to me, so that's why I want to see what others' opinions are on the coin. I am wondering why PCGS did not want to grade it, because I'm not a big mint error dealer.

    they did not say counterfeit - > it would be worth a trip to NGC or ANACS for another opinion

    I agree that a second opinion is in order.

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    jt88jt88 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2026 3:45PM

    @davewesen said:

    @jt88 said:
    The reason I asked about this coin is that PCGS put it in a body bag (86 Authenticity Unverifiable). The coin looks real to me, so that's why I want to see what others' opinions are on the coin. I am wondering why PCGS did not want to grade it, because I'm not a big mint error dealer.

    they did not say counterfeit - > it would be worth a trip to NGC or ANACS for another opinion

    Thanks, I think I might send it to CACG. I want to send some toned raw coins to CACG to test it anyway. I don't like the new TV photo for toned coin.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jt88 said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    where did you see it?

    is this question for me? Not sure what you are asking.

    just wondering where you got it

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
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    MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This appears authentic to me.

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    RedRocketRedRocket Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @jt88 said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    where did you see it?

    is this question for me? Not sure what you are asking.

    just wondering where you got it

    Hopefully not Bulgaria.
    :#

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2026 3:33PM

    (86 Authenticity Unverifiable). Is drawing up some indictment papers in order? :|

    “We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves.” — Gautama Buddha

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    jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's odd. If it already went through PCGS, that means that Jon Sullivan has seen it. At least that's what I understood the process was.

    I'm interested to hear more. Based on the pictures, I would have been happy to have that in my collection.

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    jt88jt88 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2026 3:41PM

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @jt88 said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    where did you see it?

    is this question for me? Not sure what you are asking.

    just wondering where you got it

    Goldberg auction. This is what they told me:

    "The MS63 grade listed in the description is based on the evaluation of our in-house numismatic experts, who have extensive experience in coin grading and authentication.
    That said, we stand by the accuracy of our assessment. In the event that you choose to have the coin professionally graded and it receives a materially different grade, we will be happy to offer a full refund."

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63, 60, 61 is all highly subjective on a planchet. that isn't a big deal. however if they are willing to back a number not close to 63, then they'll back a guarantee of authenticity.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
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    jt88jt88 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    63, 60, 61 is all highly subjective on a planchet. that isn't a big deal. however if they are willing to back a number not close to 63, then they'll back a guarantee of authenticity.

    Yes, I agree with you. Hopefully we will get more opinion on the coin

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