2026 Uncirculated Coin Set is available for order
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I just ordered one and it says this ->
This product is currently on backorder.
This item is available to be ordered now, but it is not currently in stock. Additional inventory is being made. Please add the item to your cart to see when additional inventory is expected to be available.0 -
@MASSU2 said:
@WALLE said:
@goldenboy89 said:
@WALLE said:
I have 4 sets coming, 2 sets will be added to my 1959 to date collection sets. 1 set will be opened and added to my Dansco albums of cents, nickels etc. The last set will be put into the custom 250th anniversary Dansco album I made.I would be interested to see your custom Dansco album! I would like to have 1 set graded to keep and the rest i'm planning to leave in the original packaging and store them away somewhere.

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Please show us this when you have it filled. Did you consider adding proofs and silver proofs?
I would also consider the AI dollars as they have a 250 privy mark.
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@davewesen said:
I just ordered one and it says this ->This product is currently on backorder.
This item is available to be ordered now, but it is not currently in stock. Additional inventory is being made. Please add the item to your cart to see when additional inventory is expected to be available."Fri Aug 21 2026"
"ats": 21128They will be gone when the HHL is lifted and the backorder date is for August 21st.
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"OUT for Delivery" due in next 2 hours 22 minutes
ats 19,996
tick tick tick ...
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@WALLE said:
@goldenboy89 said:
@WALLE said:
I have 4 sets coming, 2 sets will be added to my 1959 to date collection sets. 1 set will be opened and added to my Dansco albums of cents, nickels etc. The last set will be put into the custom 250th anniversary Dansco album I made.I would be interested to see your custom Dansco album! I would like to have 1 set graded to keep and the rest i'm planning to leave in the original packaging and store them away somewhere.



that looks awesome! thanks for sharing.
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All gone !!
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20,000 to -0-
Real quick
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NOON came early
I see all 69s but with no aided eye ball QC inspection yet.




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HHL still says 10? How did these disappear?
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@Manorcourtman said:
HHL still says 10? How did these disappear?It has happened before that the HHL is lifted at noon, but the site doesn't reflect it for awhile.
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Item Number: 26RJ
Item LimitsMintage Limit: None
Product Limit: 300,000
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Yeah I see it changed now. I tried to order shortly after noon and it told my HHL exceeded. I call BS happening at the Mint.
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@Manorcourtman said:
Yeah I see it changed now. I tried to order shortly after noon and it told my HHL exceeded. I call BS happening at the Mint.It happened at like 12:02.
You actually could order them 10 at a time even before that.
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@jmlanzaf said:
@Manorcourtman said:
Yeah I see it changed now. I tried to order shortly after noon and it told my HHL exceeded. I call BS happening at the Mint.It happened at like 12:02.
You actually could order them 10 at a time even before that.
True. All day yesterday orders were going thru beyond the HHL limit as long as the buyer didn't try 11 or more in one shot.
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@mbr33 said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@Manorcourtman said:
Yeah I see it changed now. I tried to order shortly after noon and it told my HHL exceeded. I call BS happening at the Mint.It happened at like 12:02.
You actually could order them 10 at a time even before that.
True. All day yesterday orders were going thru beyond the HHL limit as long as the buyer didn't try 11 or more in one shot.
I've been saying it all year. Their retail site is broken. They have not uniformly operated the HHL or the waiting room. It's very strange.
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Both Saqs have little hits likely from 2026 etc rolled on edge after strike.
Date migrates unlike proofs 2026 S at K6Only looked a bit more at 1st set &
AWESOME !!!
So far these are flashy & pretty flawless.
When I think I found a flaw then I realize other Mint product has same die detail.
Waiting on opening others over next couple day when I am feeling like a Lucky Lindy
:^)
Maybe I get super lucky & receive a July 4th 2026 privy too ?
I mean, why not sweeten up this plethora of 69's ?
Lindy
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Another njcoin prediction flop
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I have been saying that “Box of Chocolates” thing for years.
It’s the new term American way: misinform, lie, cheat and steal whatever it takes to get what you want." If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater2 -
@jmlanzaf said:
@Manorcourtman said:
Yeah I see it changed now. I tried to order shortly after noon and it told my HHL exceeded. I call BS happening at the Mint.It happened at like 12:02.
You actually could order them 10 at a time even before that.
Live and learn. At 12:08 my app still said limit of 10. The gaming is maddening with them.
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@Mr Lindy said:
Both Saqs have little hits likely from 2026 etc rolled on edge after strike.
Date migrates unlike proofs 2026 S at K6Only looked a bit more at 1st set &
AWESOME !!!
So far these are flashy & pretty flawless.
When I think I found a flaw then I realize other Mint product has same die detail.
Waiting on opening others over next couple day when I am feeling like a Lucky Lindy
:^)
Maybe I get super lucky & receive a July 4th 2026 privy too ?
I mean, why not sweeten up this plethora of 69's ?
Lindy
If those are 69s, you should submit. That's a $10,000+ set
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@Manorcourtman said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@Manorcourtman said:
Yeah I see it changed now. I tried to order shortly after noon and it told my HHL exceeded. I call BS happening at the Mint.It happened at like 12:02.
You actually could order them 10 at a time even before that.
Live and learn. At 12:08 my app still said limit of 10. The gaming is maddening with them.
It's not really "gaming", it's just incompetence. There's little point having an HHL if you can't enforce it.
Of course, if they figure it out and enforce it after the fact, there's going to be a whole bunch more available.
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Never submitted. I own slabs as coins arrived encapsulated.
$10k prediction for plastic fantastic is pretty tempting !
Opened one set, 9 to go. Got to tear open glue sealed boxed sets to gain entry.
But what if all 300k to what I assume will become 330k are mostly all flawless except Saq Bucks ?
Anyone know where ats was right before "8-20 and 8-21 Backorder" status occurred ?
Maybe the pretty ones only exist in what was produced, on hand to ship away ?
Or maybe I got one awesome set & balance is sad, scooped up with shovels ?
@jmlanzaf said:
@Mr Lindy said:
Both Saqs have little hits likely from 2026 etc rolled on edge after strike.
Date migrates unlike proofs 2026 S at K6Only looked a bit more at 1st set &
AWESOME !!!
So far these are flashy & pretty flawless.
When I think I found a flaw then I realize other Mint product has same die detail.
Waiting on opening others over next couple day when I am feeling like a Lucky Lindy
:^)
Maybe I get super lucky & receive a July 4th 2026 privy too ?
I mean, why not sweeten up this plethora of 69's ?
Lindy
If those are 69s, you should submit. That's a $10,000+ set
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@jmlanzaf > @Mr Lindy said:
Never submitted. I own slabs as coins arrived encapsulated.$10k prediction for plastic fantastic is pretty tempting !
Opened one set, 9 to go. Got to tear open glue sealed boxed sets to gain entry.
But what if all 300k to what I assume will become 330k are mostly all flawless except Saq Bucks ?
Anyone know where ats was right before "8-20 and 8-21 Backorder" status occurred ?
Maybe the pretty ones only exist in what was produced, on hand to ship away ?
Or maybe I got one awesome set & balance is sad, scooped up with shovels ?
@jmlanzaf said:
@Mr Lindy said:
Both Saqs have little hits likely from 2026 etc rolled on edge after strike.
Date migrates unlike proofs 2026 S at K6Only looked a bit more at 1st set &
AWESOME !!!
So far these are flashy & pretty flawless.
When I think I found a flaw then I realize other Mint product has same die detail.
Waiting on opening others over next couple day when I am feeling like a Lucky Lindy
:^)
Maybe I get super lucky & receive a July 4th 2026 privy too ?
I mean, why not sweeten up this plethora of 69's ?
Lindy
If those are 69s, you should submit. That's a $10,000+ set
The ATS when it hit back order was about 70,000.
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@Mr Lindy said:
Never submitted. I own slabs as coins arrived encapsulated.$10k prediction for plastic fantastic is pretty tempting !
Opened one set, 9 to go. Got to tear open glue sealed boxed sets to gain entry.
But what if all 300k to what I assume will become 330k are mostly all flawless except Saq Bucks ?
Anyone know where ats was right before "8-20 and 8-21 Backorder" status occurred ?
Maybe the pretty ones only exist in what was produced, on hand to ship away ?
Or maybe I got one awesome set & balance is sad, scooped up with shovels ?
@jmlanzaf said:
@Mr Lindy said:
Both Saqs have little hits likely from 2026 etc rolled on edge after strike.
Date migrates unlike proofs 2026 S at K6Only looked a bit more at 1st set &
AWESOME !!!
So far these are flashy & pretty flawless.
When I think I found a flaw then I realize other Mint product has same die detail.
Waiting on opening others over next couple day when I am feeling like a Lucky Lindy
:^)
Maybe I get super lucky & receive a July 4th 2026 privy too ?
I mean, why not sweeten up this plethora of 69's ?
Lindy
If those are 69s, you should submit. That's a $10,000+ set
Mint sets get no special handling. Although the cents might because they weren't made for circulation. They will not all be 69 or better. For the record, there are NO PCGS 69 cents in the last 4 years and never more than single digits in prior years. You will find the same for other denominations.
There will not be 330k.
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I passed on this set and just purchased one silver proof set because of my addiction to shiny silver coins. 😢
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater4 -
My Dad bought Mint & Proof Set direct from Mint until 1980. Sporadic beginning with 20 Blue Ikes from 1971 S
I inherited his group all in their original shipping, including 1975/1976.
I however never bought a Mint Set or Proof Set direct from the Mint until this year: 2026
I moved on from normal coin collecting in 1979 when I cashed out & bought errors. Over the years I bought Silver & a bit of Gold direct from USMINT. I assumed the USMINT offers authentic precious metals.
You got me wondering, so I got cleaned up & next few hours I will tear open another glued shut Unc Set.
I will be sad if my first set scrutinized was one & done 69's. And the rest of the 9 stack is overpriced dinged up 250th change like the Saqs are. No way they are even 65s. Solid 64s. Multiple tiny hits. Rolling the edge on $ after strike creates so much more coin to coin contact.
Done, 1st set is best, but most others have pretty contact free fields and devises.
sadly none are no P mintark & privy 25c and no hollis #41 hand signed card
I may have one to return, spotted Penny & hard hit on 10c cheek too, looks like a bad ass war wound.
90% today is way better unc haul, easily superior to just 17% on Silver Proof set order. I really had low expectations due to experienced chit chat here. I guess most will keep these as they are Heirloom Quality & just lowly uncs
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@WALLE said:
@goldenboy89 said:
@WALLE said:
I have 4 sets coming, 2 sets will be added to my 1959 to date collection sets. 1 set will be opened and added to my Dansco albums of cents, nickels etc. The last set will be put into the custom 250th anniversary Dansco album I made.I would be interested to see your custom Dansco album! I would like to have 1 set graded to keep and the rest i'm planning to leave in the original packaging and store them away somewhere.



I really like this one. I was looking for one of these but the ones I had seen lacked the cent and such. The only thing I would change is adding the non-dual date dollars from the mint set to help fill up the blankness of page two.
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@Batman23 said:
@WALLE said:
@goldenboy89 said:
@WALLE said:
I have 4 sets coming, 2 sets will be added to my 1959 to date collection sets. 1 set will be opened and added to my Dansco albums of cents, nickels etc. The last set will be put into the custom 250th anniversary Dansco album I made.I would be interested to see your custom Dansco album! I would like to have 1 set graded to keep and the rest i'm planning to leave in the original packaging and store them away somewhere.



I really like this one. I was looking for one of these but the ones I had seen lacked the cent and such. The only thing I would change is adding the non-dual date dollars from the mint set to help fill up the blankness of page two.
Where can I purchase one ?
TIN SOLDIERS & NIXON COMING
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Flashed for a few seconds
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Made it to place order button and poof !!! Not available
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I had one in cart from the other day and let it pass. It still sits there as I haven't purchased anything this week. I don't expect much more to fall back into inventory this week due to the holiday. IS the Mint closed Friday the 3rd?
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I saw they had 73 available this morning. Gone in a flash...
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@mbr33 said:
I had one in cart from the other day and let it pass. It still sits there as I haven't purchased anything this week. I don't expect much more to fall back into inventory this week due to the holiday. IS the Mint closed Friday the 3rd?Answering my own question:
No, the U.S. Mint is closed on July 3.Because Independence Day falls on a Saturday, the federal holiday is observed on Friday, July 3. This closure applies to both non-essential federal agencies and public facility tours (such as the Philadelphia Mint).0 -
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.
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@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.On the 30th? You were in the waiting room before noon and then got let in at what time?
There is no advantage to clearing the room before noon, they usually throw everyone into the waiting room at release.
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@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.My first guess, you logged in early. The mint page did not auto refresh. When you refreshed you were put into a new session with a new waiting room. I have found that logging in too early to get "in line" actually hurts my chances of completing a fast order.
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A unc mint set that should be produced to demand at a reasonable price point, especially for a 250th set such as this, has become a flippers dream.
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@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.On the 30th, or yesterday or today? If today, what you did wrong was be a day or two late. They are now gone, and what reappears generally does so at 7:30 a.m., not noon. If the 30th, you would not have been released from the waiting room once in it before noon, so it didn't happen.
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@NJCoin said:
@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.On the 30th, or yesterday or today? If today, what you did wrong was be a day or two late. They are now gone, and what reappears generally does so at 7:30 a.m., not noon. If the 30th, you would not have been released from the waiting room once in it before noon, so it didn't happen.
If you are released before noon you will get thrown back in at noon. So, as he presented it, it could have happened. It happened to me on the BOM release.
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@jmlanzaf said:
@NJCoin said:
@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.On the 30th, or yesterday or today? If today, what you did wrong was be a day or two late. They are now gone, and what reappears generally does so at 7:30 a.m., not noon. If the 30th, you would not have been released from the waiting room once in it before noon, so it didn't happen.
If you are released before noon you will get thrown back in at noon. So, as he presented it, it could have happened. It happened to me on the BOM release.
It was the release day for the uncirculated set. I may be confused about the sequence of events but I got into the web site for the uncir mint set before noon. The button said remind me. I waited for the button to change from remind me to put in bag. I assumed it would turn from remind me to put in bag at noon when the item was released. I waited a few minutes and the button never changed so I hit the refresh button assuming I would get the put in bag to purchase and I ended back up in the waiting room again. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong. I just don’t know what it is.
Also I was on a laptop. I don’t know how to refresh a cell phone screen.0 -
@Mark1010 said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@NJCoin said:
@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.On the 30th, or yesterday or today? If today, what you did wrong was be a day or two late. They are now gone, and what reappears generally does so at 7:30 a.m., not noon. If the 30th, you would not have been released from the waiting room once in it before noon, so it didn't happen.
If you are released before noon you will get thrown back in at noon. So, as he presented it, it could have happened. It happened to me on the BOM release.
It was the release day for the uncirculated set. I may be confused about the sequence of events but I got into the web site for the uncir mint set before noon. The button said remind me. I waited for the button to change from remind me to put in bag. I assumed it would turn from remind me to put in bag at noon when the item was released. I waited a few minutes and the button never changed so I hit the refresh button assuming I would get the put in bag to purchase and I ended back up in the waiting room again. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong. I just don’t know what it is.
Also I was on a laptop. I don’t know how to refresh a cell phone screen.You should have refreshed at noon to get thrown in the waiting room
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@jmlanzaf said:
@NJCoin said:
@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.On the 30th, or yesterday or today? If today, what you did wrong was be a day or two late. They are now gone, and what reappears generally does so at 7:30 a.m., not noon. If the 30th, you would not have been released from the waiting room once in it before noon, so it didn't happen.
If you are released before noon you will get thrown back in at noon. So, as he presented it, it could have happened. It happened to me on the BOM release.
Oh. I thought they put a hold on it on release day, in order to randomize who gets in from the first batch. The one time I experienced it, when I was on the website before they employed the waiting room, I was thrown off the website entirely, and when I tried to log back in, I was in the waiting room until after noon.
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@Mark1010 said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@NJCoin said:
@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.On the 30th, or yesterday or today? If today, what you did wrong was be a day or two late. They are now gone, and what reappears generally does so at 7:30 a.m., not noon. If the 30th, you would not have been released from the waiting room once in it before noon, so it didn't happen.
If you are released before noon you will get thrown back in at noon. So, as he presented it, it could have happened. It happened to me on the BOM release.
It was the release day for the uncirculated set. I may be confused about the sequence of events but I got into the web site for the uncir mint set before noon. The button said remind me. I waited for the button to change from remind me to put in bag. I assumed it would turn from remind me to put in bag at noon when the item was released. I waited a few minutes and the button never changed so I hit the refresh button assuming I would get the put in bag to purchase and I ended back up in the waiting room again. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong. I just don’t know what it is.
Also I was on a laptop. I don’t know how to refresh a cell phone screen.Nothing refreshes automatically. When you refreshed manually, you were thrown off the site, and into the waiting room, because that's the function of the waiting room. Otherwise, we'd all be on the website before noon, and the site would crash just like it did before they instituted the waiting room.
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@NJCoin said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@NJCoin said:
@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.On the 30th, or yesterday or today? If today, what you did wrong was be a day or two late. They are now gone, and what reappears generally does so at 7:30 a.m., not noon. If the 30th, you would not have been released from the waiting room once in it before noon, so it didn't happen.
If you are released before noon you will get thrown back in at noon. So, as he presented it, it could have happened. It happened to me on the BOM release.
Oh. I thought they put a hold on it on release day, in order to randomize who gets in from the first batch. The one time I experienced it, when I was on the website before they employed the waiting room, I was thrown off the website entirely, and when I tried to log back in, I was in the waiting room until after noon.
Sometimes. As I keep saying, the waiting room is broken. I've bypassed it completely, been thrown into it at noon, and even been in before noon but then got in and stayed in.
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@jmlanzaf said:
@NJCoin said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@NJCoin said:
@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.On the 30th, or yesterday or today? If today, what you did wrong was be a day or two late. They are now gone, and what reappears generally does so at 7:30 a.m., not noon. If the 30th, you would not have been released from the waiting room once in it before noon, so it didn't happen.
If you are released before noon you will get thrown back in at noon. So, as he presented it, it could have happened. It happened to me on the BOM release.
Oh. I thought they put a hold on it on release day, in order to randomize who gets in from the first batch. The one time I experienced it, when I was on the website before they employed the waiting room, I was thrown off the website entirely, and when I tried to log back in, I was in the waiting room until after noon.
Sometimes. As I keep saying, the waiting room is broken. I've bypassed it completely, been thrown into it at noon, and even been in before noon but then got in and stayed in.
Okay. Again, anything is possible. So there are no definitive answers to any questions, because anything can and does happen at any time. So maybe CU should just shut down the forum, since there is nothing to know or share.
I described how the website works when the waiting room is working as intended. Which sound like exactly what happened in this case. Not in your case, where other things happened.
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@jmlanzaf said:
@NJCoin said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@NJCoin said:
@Mark1010 said:
Question on the waiting room. I logged in was put in the waiting room eventually got into the Mint site went to the page for the uncirculated set. Waited for the button to turn from remind me to purchase. It never did at 12:02 I hit the refresh and went back to the waiting room. I assumed the remind me button would turn to add to bag at 12:00. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.On the 30th, or yesterday or today? If today, what you did wrong was be a day or two late. They are now gone, and what reappears generally does so at 7:30 a.m., not noon. If the 30th, you would not have been released from the waiting room once in it before noon, so it didn't happen.
If you are released before noon you will get thrown back in at noon. So, as he presented it, it could have happened. It happened to me on the BOM release.
Oh. I thought they put a hold on it on release day, in order to randomize who gets in from the first batch. The one time I experienced it, when I was on the website before they employed the waiting room, I was thrown off the website entirely, and when I tried to log back in, I was in the waiting room until after noon.
Sometimes. As I keep saying, the waiting room is broken. I've bypassed it completely, been thrown into it at noon, and even been in before noon but then got in and stayed in.
I have to agree with @jmlanzaf . on the Revolution quarter I was signed in and on the order page at 11:30. At 12:00 I hit refresh and the red add to cart lit up finished my order from there. with the volume that high glitches do occur even letting bots in and sometimes crashing. the systems while 99% fool proof are still not 100% fool proof, Build an fool proof system and a better fool will come along. in my 40 years of overseeing many systems for a half dozen different industries including defense I have seen many strange things randomly occur. remember the golden rule.
The Mint is like a box of Chocolates. You never know what you will get." If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater1
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