@bgr said:
What kind of steroids heal a UCL tear? Asking for my elbow.
@bgr said:
What kind of steroids heal a UCL tear? Asking for my elbow.
Nolan was diagnosed with a partially torn UCL after the 1986 season I believe. He would have been 39 at the time. Dr. Jobe said surgery. Nolan decided to rest it. he then pitched another 7 seasons with that partially torn UCL. I have no idea if PED was involved but i have some suspicions...
@bgr said:
What kind of steroids heal a UCL tear? Asking for my elbow.
@bgr said:
What kind of steroids heal a UCL tear? Asking for my elbow.
Nolan was diagnosed with a partially torn UCL after the 1986 season I believe. He would have been 39 at the time. Dr. Jobe said surgery. Nolan decided to rest it. he then pitched another 7 seasons with that partially torn UCL. I have no idea if PED was involved but i have some suspicions...
That sounds about right. Ryan said it scarred over. Whether or not he used steroids (or anything else) for treatment or for any particular advantage is quite speculative though.
@ArtVandelay said:
Nolan Ryan ranks low last amongst Hall of Fame pitchers in career net advantage. The net advantage looks at a pitcher's win% versus their team's win%.
Nolan - .526 win% - team .506 win% Net +2.0
Kershaw +12.7
Koufax +10.7
Pedro +10.4
Halladay +10.1
Scherzer +9.8
Cole +9.3
Ford +9.2
Verlander +9.2
Seaver +9.1
Palmer +8.9
Gibson +8.2
Randy +8.1
Maddux +7.9
Marichal +7.7
Even Blyleven is nearly double that of Ryan +3.8
Nolan Ryan was the greatest at striking out players. But, when you look at the above stat and then also factor in that he is the 6th worst career WHIP amongst HoF pitchers since 1960 it tells a different story about how truly effective he was on the mound and just why his net advantage and win% were so low.
Nolan is deserving of the Hall of Fame, but he is definitely overrated.
Interesting statistic.
I see Pedro at #3, he's 8th all time in WHIP too. including an insane 0.737 in 2000.
In a 1,000 years I never would have guessed Ford is so high on that list.
Very interesting.
whitey was awesome. his cards should be untouchable.
He most definitely was. I always felt he never got his true respect because those teams were so stacked. It felt like everyone was like 'of course you should be great on those teams'. Very unfair because he was really really good.
Plus he kept up with Mantle in the drink department. Occasionally even surpassing him.
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Prednisone is very bitter...and I was on a maintenance dose of 20mg/day for 20 years to manage inflammation from ulcerative colitis( an auto-immune disorder in which the immune system attacks the colon resulting in significant inflammation).
I mentioned it over in the OPC thread, but perhaps this is the more appropriate place. In the Memory lane auction that just ended, a PSA 8/10 68 topps ryan rookie sold for $116,000.00
an absolutely insane price for any autographed Ryan card. in the same auction, an unsigned psa 8 ryan rookie sold for just a tic under $20k. that means someone spent nearly $100k on a ryan autograph which can be had any day of the week for a $150 fee from the Nolan Ryan foundation. Ryan has signed TONS of autos in his life. probably only Rose and Feller have signed more. maybe Ripken.
Everyone slagging on this guy.No proof of anything of course and we're talking about one of the most motivated people to train his body to pitch and last as long as Ryan did. Sure, it must be steroids.
@craig44 said:
I mentioned it over in the OPC thread, but perhaps this is the more appropriate place. In the Memory lane auction that just ended, a PSA 8/10 68 topps ryan rookie sold for $116,000.00
an absolutely insane price for any autographed Ryan card. in the same auction, an unsigned psa 8 ryan rookie sold for just a tic under $20k. that means someone spent nearly $100k on a ryan autograph which can be had any day of the week for a $150 fee from the Nolan Ryan foundation. Ryan has signed TONS of autos in his life. probably only Rose and Feller have signed more. maybe Ripken.
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Nolan was diagnosed with a partially torn UCL after the 1986 season I believe. He would have been 39 at the time. Dr. Jobe said surgery. Nolan decided to rest it. he then pitched another 7 seasons with that partially torn UCL. I have no idea if PED was involved but i have some suspicions...
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
That sounds about right. Ryan said it scarred over. Whether or not he used steroids (or anything else) for treatment or for any particular advantage is quite speculative though.
Prednizone?
I rubbed in some red meat and motor oil and it's better.
Plus he kept up with Mantle in the drink department. Occasionally even surpassing him.
No gunpowder?
Tastes better too. I hated taking Prednisone, if it happened to nick the side of your throat on the way down it tasted horrible.
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Prednisone is very bitter...and I was on a maintenance dose of 20mg/day for 20 years to manage inflammation from ulcerative colitis( an auto-immune disorder in which the immune system attacks the colon resulting in significant inflammation).
A PSA-8 1968 Nolan Ryan Rookie sold for a record for the grade last night in a Memory Lane Auction…for $19,500+.
THERE IS NO END FOR HIS CARDS RIGHT NOW.
agreed, he is on fire!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
There is always an end for everything. EVERYTHING! There is also no such thing as unlimited upward trajectory.
Enjoy your shameless pumping - for now
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Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
Looking at these prices, I'm seriously thinking about selling my high grade 69 topps Ryan.
2025 SEC bowl record 4-10
SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8
I mentioned it over in the OPC thread, but perhaps this is the more appropriate place. In the Memory lane auction that just ended, a PSA 8/10 68 topps ryan rookie sold for $116,000.00
an absolutely insane price for any autographed Ryan card. in the same auction, an unsigned psa 8 ryan rookie sold for just a tic under $20k. that means someone spent nearly $100k on a ryan autograph which can be had any day of the week for a $150 fee from the Nolan Ryan foundation. Ryan has signed TONS of autos in his life. probably only Rose and Feller have signed more. maybe Ripken.
total insanity!!!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Everyone slagging on this guy.No proof of anything of course and we're talking about one of the most motivated people to train his body to pitch and last as long as Ryan did. Sure, it must be steroids.
Fools and their money.
2025 SEC bowl record 4-10
SEC bowl record vs BIG TEN last two years 2-8