Some big Nolan Ryan Sells lately..
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1981 Topps $7,200
1975 Topps mins psa 9 $11,800
1980 Topps $13,500
1986 tiffany $3,400
1973 topps psa 9 $3,300 - not even centered.
1991 Desert shield $3,200
1978 Topps psa 9 $2,000
1986 Topps $1,700
1982 topps $1,160
Just plain huge numbers
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R these 10s unless otherwise noted?
" 1991 Desert shield $3,200 "
What number ????
Here is a Ryan pack up for sale on November 9
Probably will go for premium
Bad pack. The wrapper was produced in 1975!! Hard to believe packs like this slipped through authentication even though it was a long time ago. Topps wrapper codes have been well understood for decades.
Not to mention the cards being from different series, which while not impossible, probably should have raised an eyebrow.
invaluable auctions/ morphy auction has this listed in their November 6 auction.
100% Total Hand Assembled Forgery.
@PCGS_Moderator - item is at private auction. A clear forgery including probably resealed slab has potential to damage PSA's reputation. Collectors Universe's legal team may want to act!
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/fabulous-1973-topps-sealed-cello-pack-1688-c-69c4d56b3d?objectID=191866254&algIndex=upcoming_lots_prod&queryID=f1168ae0a810e867c1fc2a3a35c476a8
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Get that pack out of circulation!
Does the pack grade (PSA 9) typically reflect the card grade .. I assume no ?
Imagine that is one of the Jose packs, one of far too many ‘star top’ packs that beat Steve for a while there.
It’s one thing not to know about collation, but I understood Topps wrapper codes since at least 2000. No excuse for missing that.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Dan Morphy just stated on Facebook that the pack would be pulled from the auction and returned to the consignor. 👍
I’d say collation would be pretty important knowledge as well.
Of course it’s important. I’m just saying that being unaware of it in 2010 is a bit more excusable than not be aware of Topps wrapper coding.
Whats the over under it will now be sold privately to some sucker?
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
PSA will recall the pack…and destroy it.
How can PSA do that? It’s obviously trash but it does belong to somebody. They could decertify the cert number so if someone looked it up they would know it’s fake but the actual cards are not theirs. If someone is swimming in the deep waters of buying a PSA 9 with Schmidt on top and Ryan on bottom I would hope they do their due diligence,
PSA will pay the owner what he or she paid. It happened to me. Mine was a 1975 Topps mini cello pack with
George Brett RC on top.
Was there a negotiation of price? Was proof required on purchase costs on your end? I'm Curious to know how it all developed and what occurred.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
I dont understand how PSA could "recall" the pack without the owners consent. It is private property. they could (and should) decertify the cert number. Say the pack was purchased by the owner in a private sale that was not tracked. How would PSA come up with a number that is fair to the owner for compensation should he decide to use the authenticity gaurantee?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
In my opinion what you paid is kind of crappy. If I own a card for 15 years and PSA deems it not authentic - what I paid (if I even can find proof or exactly know) does not approximate value and will not let me come close to replacing the card I am out. The alternative is to keep a fake or altered card so I guess I would take it.
also wondering when this pack was graded and how it got by steve? the 2 cards are not even in the same series.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
How it got by Steve? Stop it. Haha. Steve. lol.
I had listed the 75 mini cello on eBay…and received an email from PSA requesting the pack back at their cost for shipping. So…I assume someone noticed the pack was fraudulent…and PSA was notified. After receiving the pack…PSA called me and asked how much I had paid. I told them $4000, which was correct, and did not have to show proof of purchase. I did not own the pack long …so there was little to no appreciation. A check was sent to me…and the pack was taken out of circulation.
???? did I miss something? Does not Steve still authenticate packs for PSA?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Sorry. I just can’t trust Steve. Almost half of the BBCE stuff I’ve opened has been tampered with. I’m estimating but it feels like half. I recently opened 4 82T traded boxes because Ripken has a signing coming up. All ‘factory tape’ None legit. What his service provides has minimal value and it’s hard to fully trust FASC. I would hope that PSA isn’t still relying on that bozo for their business. But sorry. That’s just one guys opinion.
What was the tell on the 1982 traded sets?
I also do not blindly trust anyone. I expect you will get some blowback on the bad "review" on steve as he is pretty revered here. I have gotten similar feedback when I have failed to kiss steves ring here.
I think he generally knows his stuff, but I also think he portrays himself (and is portrayed) as the expert on all unopened, and no one is an expert on everything.
when you say that none of the 4 traded sets were legit, do you mean they were missing the Ripken?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
One was missing the Ripken. The others had what you would expect all the cards were there but they were not ordered as the traded sets are. So peeled tape, searched and replaced and resealed. Then authenticated with Steve. I’ve opened maybe 25-30 82T boxes in my life. Not a ton of I’ve never had one where the cards were all out of order in the box before. I have had them flip. That box had the Ripken but it looked like it had been in and out of a page quite a few times and was worn considerably compared to the rest of the cards and what you would expect from a sealed box. I didn’t pay much for them but it’s always a bummer to open something from your collection and find it’s not legit.
As for blowback. I’m a big boy.
. And I’m fine with people thinking Steve is a boss. I’ve opened a lot of BBCE and I will still buy from BBCE. It’s just more of a buyer beware message. Like be very aware because a lot of stuff is not legit out there.
I don't believe I've ever had a Topps Traded set from any year already be collated in order straight from the box.
Every Topps factory set traded or regular are out of order. If ther are IN order someone has been thru them and put them that way. Maybe newer ones are but back in the 80's they were not in order.
I didn’t mean ordered as such but funny you mentioned it because one was collated in numerical order. I meant face to back and orientation.
I appreciate the collation discussion. Thank you!
I need to up my game, I am a sucker for the traded sets.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
I bought a bunch of the 82T FASC years ago that I still have, because it's my favorite of the 80s.
I hope I got a good batch. The random one I did open presented correctly...