@acelm said:
The silver proof set is actually a better deal than it was last year given the increase in silver price. Combined with the 2026 clad sets being a total ripoff I could see myself getting this one
Nope. The silver set went on sale last year for $150. $245 is not a better deal, "given the increase in silver price."
I guess my thought was that silver has gone from $30 to $75 (2.5x) so 1.63x for the set was "relatively" cheaper. But yeah now that I think about it it's pretty stupid
@acelm said:
The silver proof set is actually a better deal than it was last year given the increase in silver price. Combined with the 2026 clad sets being a total ripoff I could see myself getting this one
Nope. The silver set went on sale last year for $150. $245 is not a better deal, "given the increase in silver price."
I guess my thought was that silver has gone from $30 to $75 (2.5x) so 1.63x for the set was "relatively" cheaper. But yeah now that I think about it it's pretty stupid
Well, it is relatively cheaper on a percentage basis
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A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
@mbr33 said:
A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
Yeah. That's directly related to that buyers club message you posted in the other thread. Shows you just how large an impact they could have.
@mbr33 said:
A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
I've been pausing subs on this and the regular proof set since your reminder on 5-28. I'm finally down to one on the silver. I really had problems getting my main account to show my subscriptions. I only wanted extra because I thought they were limited and might be in demand. I really don't know why, since I never flip them lol. I've still got 2021 Morgan and Peace and 2026 Congrats sets that I purchased with the same flawed thinking. After I get the regular proof cut back to minimum, it will be time to start on the uncirculated sets I have lined up.
@mbr33 said:
A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
I've been pausing subs on this and the regular proof set since your reminder on 5-28. I'm finally down to one on the silver. I really had problems getting my main account to show my subscriptions. I only wanted extra because I thought they were limited and might be in demand. I really don't know why, since I never flip them lol. I've still got 2021 Morgan and Peace and 2026 Congrats sets that I purchased with the same flawed thinking. After I get the regular proof cut back to minimum, it will be time to start on the uncirculated sets I have lined up.
it's funny because i tend to do the same thing. I maxed out my subscriptions for everything this year and then slowly cut them back because i realize it's not something i can flip (nor do i ever flip anything). But this product started off great and then the mintage doubled and now i'm thinking of only keeping 2 or 3 sets. I'm so new to collecting that it's hard to figure out what will be a good item to keep for the kids/grandkids, etc.
@mbr33 said:
A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
I've been pausing subs on this and the regular proof set since your reminder on 5-28. I'm finally down to one on the silver. I really had problems getting my main account to show my subscriptions. I only wanted extra because I thought they were limited and might be in demand. I really don't know why, since I never flip them lol. I've still got 2021 Morgan and Peace and 2026 Congrats sets that I purchased with the same flawed thinking. After I get the regular proof cut back to minimum, it will be time to start on the uncirculated sets I have lined up.
Glad to hear I was able to remind you in time to make the changes that you wanted to make. Had seen too many surprised collectors on the fifty cent piece get charged before they thought they would be.
The numbers gave me caution, too. I feel like $245 is a stretch, but I could be wrong. I just don’t see a 2025 repeat here on this 2026 silver set. There’s too many for that, and everyone who wants one will be able to get one….and that’s a GOOD thing.
@mbr33 said:
A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
I've been pausing subs on this and the regular proof set since your reminder on 5-28. I'm finally down to one on the silver. I really had problems getting my main account to show my subscriptions. I only wanted extra because I thought they were limited and might be in demand. I really don't know why, since I never flip them lol. I've still got 2021 Morgan and Peace and 2026 Congrats sets that I purchased with the same flawed thinking. After I get the regular proof cut back to minimum, it will be time to start on the uncirculated sets I have lined up.
it's funny because i tend to do the same thing. I maxed out my subscriptions for everything this year and then slowly cut them back because i realize it's not something i can flip (nor do i ever flip anything). But this product started off great and then the mintage doubled and now i'm thinking of only keeping 2 or 3 sets. I'm so new to collecting that it's hard to figure out what will be a good item to keep for the kids/grandkids, etc.
….and if you did flip, there’s nothing wrong with that. Some collectors look at 2026 as a year to make some money on some things in order to fund another, more expensive offering. That’s a fine strategy to obtain something that maybe you wouldn’t normally want to, or be able to spring for. Everyone has an opinion on that, some different from mine and some the same. This set may appreciate over time to be worth more than what we are paying for it, and I hope it does for all the collectors that want it for that reason. There’s some pretty nice coins in there this year. .
@mbr33 said:
A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
I've been pausing subs on this and the regular proof set since your reminder on 5-28. I'm finally down to one on the silver. I really had problems getting my main account to show my subscriptions. I only wanted extra because I thought they were limited and might be in demand. I really don't know why, since I never flip them lol. I've still got 2021 Morgan and Peace and 2026 Congrats sets that I purchased with the same flawed thinking. After I get the regular proof cut back to minimum, it will be time to start on the uncirculated sets I have lined up.
Glad to hear I was able to remind you in time to make the changes that you wanted to make. Had seen too many surprised collectors on the fifty cent piece get charged before they thought they would be.
The numbers gave me caution, too. I feel like $245 is a stretch, but I could be wrong. I just don’t see a 2025 repeat here on this 2026 silver set. There’s too many for that, and everyone who wants one will be able to get one….and that’s a GOOD thing.
My question is how many people will purchase these ?
@mbr33 said:
A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
Yeah. That's directly related to that buyers club message you posted in the other thread. Shows you just how large an impact they could have.
You know , that’s a way to look at that which I didn’t originally consider. Yes, it shows this particular club has enough (or maybe doesn’t desire any at all now after the mintage limits rising) but it also shows that perhaps buying clubs do in fact have an outsized impact on some of these Mint products. That’s a lot of subs kicked back in. There’s been decent chunks of subs available for the past week off and on over various days and times.
@mbr33 said:
A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
I've been pausing subs on this and the regular proof set since your reminder on 5-28. I'm finally down to one on the silver. I really had problems getting my main account to show my subscriptions. I only wanted extra because I thought they were limited and might be in demand. I really don't know why, since I never flip them lol. I've still got 2021 Morgan and Peace and 2026 Congrats sets that I purchased with the same flawed thinking. After I get the regular proof cut back to minimum, it will be time to start on the uncirculated sets I have lined up.
Glad to hear I was able to remind you in time to make the changes that you wanted to make. Had seen too many surprised collectors on the fifty cent piece get charged before they thought they would be.
The numbers gave me caution, too. I feel like $245 is a stretch, but I could be wrong. I just don’t see a 2025 repeat here on this 2026 silver set. There’s too many for that, and everyone who wants one will be able to get one….and that’s a GOOD thing.
My question is how many people will purchase these ?
Remains to be seen, but they seem to be sticking to 10 as an HHL on drop day. Could be a lot of people waiting to drop $2450 on ten of them. I’m doubtful, but there COULD be.
Just trimmed my long standing 10 silver proof set subscriptions to 9, then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 & finally 4.
All updated on my subscriptions page. Still kept the next day delivery.
That $1,450 savings pays for the 10 Mint Sets I've yet to thin.
The bump up from 151,520 to 250,520 mintage last few weeks was too much to ignore.
No charge on the plastic & FOMO hit me so instead of getting just 4 in lieu of 10 or 5 or 6 haunted me. Bumped up two more to 6.
5 business days order adjustments allowed from tomorrow is...
@mbr33 said:
A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
I've been pausing subs on this and the regular proof set since your reminder on 5-28. I'm finally down to one on the silver. I really had problems getting my main account to show my subscriptions. I only wanted extra because I thought they were limited and might be in demand. I really don't know why, since I never flip them lol. I've still got 2021 Morgan and Peace and 2026 Congrats sets that I purchased with the same flawed thinking. After I get the regular proof cut back to minimum, it will be time to start on the uncirculated sets I have lined up.
Glad to hear I was able to remind you in time to make the changes that you wanted to make. Had seen too many surprised collectors on the fifty cent piece get charged before they thought they would be.
The numbers gave me caution, too. I feel like $245 is a stretch, but I could be wrong. I just don’t see a 2025 repeat here on this 2026 silver set. There’s too many for that, and everyone who wants one will be able to get one….and that’s a GOOD thing.
My question is how many people will purchase these ?
200,000
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Mine wasn't hit for my one set either. Maybe later today?
I'm wondering if the Mint will blow past the stated mintage limit of 250,520 on this set. The ATS this morning has bumped up to 216,086, and 4224 subs are available. With an HHL of 10, what are the odds they only took 30,210 subscriptions on this set? I don't know the Mint's official subscription percentages on any given product...are there such parameters they use for that?
@mbr33 said: @jmlanzaf I am interested in your take on these numbers and if you know what subscription percentages are.
(above)
I don't know about the subscriptions.
It would be very unusual for them to violate the mintage limit. The ATS number when you actually can't buy them likely includes the subscriptions. The missing amount might be due to ABPP or that might be the actual number minted.
I'm not as negative as some on this set. I don't think it's a great flip opportunity unless you want to grade them or split them up. But I don't think it's a horrible buy for a collector. Yes, it's got $150 premium over melt, but it's also a one year type with some interesting coins.
I'm personally expecting to spend $100 on a graded dime. I'd rather do that than mess with the set. FWIW
I'm also still holding my unc set subscriptions. FWIW
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@mbr33 said: @jmlanzaf I am interested in your take on these numbers and if you know what subscription percentages are.
(above)
I don't know about the subscriptions.
It would be very unusual for them to violate the mintage limit. The ATS number when you actually can't buy them likely includes the subscriptions. The missing amount might be due to ABPP or that might be the actual number minted.
I'm not as negative as some on this set. I don't think it's a great flip opportunity unless you want to grade them or split them up. But I don't think it's a horrible buy for a collector. Yes, it's got $150 premium over melt, but it's also a one year type with some interesting coins.
I'm personally expecting to spend $100 on a graded dime. I'd rather do that than mess with the set. FWIW
I'm also still holding my unc set subscriptions. FWIW
I was wondering about this set and its limits since they released more of them from 2025 earlier this year. I only got one this year, as I figured it was the best way to pick up some good quality 2026 coins. You are most likely correct that grading or splitting this set is the way to profit on it in the short-term.
@mbr33 said: @jmlanzaf I am interested in your take on these numbers and if you know what subscription percentages are.
(above)
I don't know about the subscriptions.
It would be very unusual for them to violate the mintage limit. The ATS number when you actually can't buy them likely includes the subscriptions. The missing amount might be due to ABPP or that might be the actual number minted.
I'm not as negative as some on this set. I don't think it's a great flip opportunity unless you want to grade them or split them up. But I don't think it's a horrible buy for a collector. Yes, it's got $150 premium over melt, but it's also a one year type with some interesting coins.
I'm personally expecting to spend $100 on a graded dime. I'd rather do that than mess with the set. FWIW
I'm also still holding my unc set subscriptions. FWIW
I was wondering about this set and its limits since they released more of them from 2025 earlier this year. I only got one this year, as I figured it was the best way to pick up some good quality 2026 coins. You are most likely correct that grading or splitting this set is the way to profit on it in the short-term.
Proof and mint sets have been dropping in popularity for years. I'm sure the SemiQ will cause a little spike in popularity, hence the Mintb increasing the limits. But I just don't know that there will be legs to it. This forum is not the average collector. The,"average collector", or maybe median collector, never spends $250 on anything.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@mbr33 said: @jmlanzaf I am interested in your take on these numbers and if you know what subscription percentages are.
(above)
I don't know about the subscriptions.
It would be very unusual for them to violate the mintage limit. The ATS number when you actually can't buy them likely includes the subscriptions. The missing amount might be due to ABPP or that might be the actual number minted.
I'm not as negative as some on this set. I don't think it's a great flip opportunity unless you want to grade them or split them up. But I don't think it's a horrible buy for a collector. Yes, it's got $150 premium over melt, but it's also a one year type with some interesting coins.
I'm personally expecting to spend $100 on a graded dime. I'd rather do that than mess with the set. FWIW
I'm also still holding my unc set subscriptions. FWIW
I was wondering about this set and its limits since they released more of them from 2025 earlier this year. I only got one this year, as I figured it was the best way to pick up some good quality 2026 coins. You are most likely correct that grading or splitting this set is the way to profit on it in the short-term.
Proof and mint sets have been dropping in popularity for years. I'm sure the SemiQ will cause a little spike in popularity, hence the Mintb increasing the limits. But I just don't know that there will be legs to it. This forum is not the average collector. The,"average collector", or maybe median collector, never spends $250 on anything.
I’m generally a gold collector with a bit of silver bullion mixed in, but got caught up in the 2026 semi-Q hype and figured I would get one silver proof set. My Dad bought 3 of the 1976 silver proof sets when I was a kid, and they’ve fallen into my hands some years back. I just got them out for the first time in 25 years or so to take a look at them. One set hasn’t aged well, but the other two look good for a 50 year old set.
I've settled on five silver sets, two already flipped so I have three left (I'll grade the cent, dime, and half and maybe a set of quarters if they look good from two of them and just flip the spare pieces).
Going with 6 mint sets (2 flipped already) in the insane hope that they have some decent coins to grade from the other four, otherwise I have a lot of expensive pocket change.
I may buy a clad proof set or two just for the cent, dime, and half.
@mbr33 said: @jmlanzaf I am interested in your take on these numbers and if you know what subscription percentages are.
(above)
I don't know about the subscriptions.
It would be very unusual for them to violate the mintage limit. The ATS number when you actually can't buy them likely includes the subscriptions. The missing amount might be due to ABPP or that might be the actual number minted.
I'm not as negative as some on this set. I don't think it's a great flip opportunity unless you want to grade them or split them up. But I don't think it's a horrible buy for a collector. Yes, it's got $150 premium over melt, but it's also a one year type with some interesting coins.
I'm personally expecting to spend $100 on a graded dime. I'd rather do that than mess with the set. FWIW
I'm also still holding my unc set subscriptions. FWIW
I was wondering about this set and its limits since they released more of them from 2025 earlier this year. I only got one this year, as I figured it was the best way to pick up some good quality 2026 coins. You are most likely correct that grading or splitting this set is the way to profit on it in the short-term.
Proof and mint sets have been dropping in popularity for years. I'm sure the SemiQ will cause a little spike in popularity, hence the Mintb increasing the limits. But I just don't know that there will be legs to it. This forum is not the average collector. The,"average collector", or maybe median collector, never spends $250 on anything.
I’m generally a gold collector with a bit of silver bullion mixed in, but got caught up in the 2026 semi-Q hype and figured I would get one silver proof set. My Dad bought 3 of the 1976 silver proof sets when I was a kid, and they’ve fallen into my hands some years back. I just got them out for the first time in 25 years or so to take a look at them. One set hasn’t aged well, but the other two look good for a 50 year old set.
That's really more what it should be about. Joy and memories. The whole value proposition should be way down the list. When I look at my 401k over the last couple years, there's no way the average or even above average collectible coin would keep pace. So, i just enjoy what I've got and consider it a sunk cost of my enjoyment.
I'll spend $100 for the dime, maybe less if it's a 69. It'll likely drop in value in the coming years, but I will hand enjoyed it my $100 worth in the meantime.
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@mbr33 said: @jmlanzaf I am interested in your take on these numbers and if you know what subscription percentages are.
(above)
I don't know about the subscriptions.
It would be very unusual for them to violate the mintage limit. The ATS number when you actually can't buy them likely includes the subscriptions. The missing amount might be due to ABPP or that might be the actual number minted.
I'm not as negative as some on this set. I don't think it's a great flip opportunity unless you want to grade them or split them up. But I don't think it's a horrible buy for a collector. Yes, it's got $150 premium over melt, but it's also a one year type with some interesting coins.
I'm personally expecting to spend $100 on a graded dime. I'd rather do that than mess with the set. FWIW
FYI, They are available to purchase on ebay (pre-sale) for that price right now.
@mbr33 said: @jmlanzaf I am interested in your take on these numbers and if you know what subscription percentages are.
(above)
I don't know about the subscriptions.
It would be very unusual for them to violate the mintage limit. The ATS number when you actually can't buy them likely includes the subscriptions. The missing amount might be due to ABPP or that might be the actual number minted.
I'm not as negative as some on this set. I don't think it's a great flip opportunity unless you want to grade them or split them up. But I don't think it's a horrible buy for a collector. Yes, it's got $150 premium over melt, but it's also a one year type with some interesting coins.
I'm personally expecting to spend $100 on a graded dime. I'd rather do that than mess with the set. FWIW
I'm also still holding my unc set subscriptions. FWIW
I was wondering about this set and its limits since they released more of them from 2025 earlier this year. I only got one this year, as I figured it was the best way to pick up some good quality 2026 coins. You are most likely correct that grading or splitting this set is the way to profit on it in the short-term.
Proof and mint sets have been dropping in popularity for years. I'm sure the SemiQ will cause a little spike in popularity, hence the Mintb increasing the limits. But I just don't know that there will be legs to it. This forum is not the average collector. The,"average collector", or maybe median collector, never spends $250 on anything.
I’m generally a gold collector with a bit of silver bullion mixed in, but got caught up in the 2026 semi-Q hype and figured I would get one silver proof set. My Dad bought 3 of the 1976 silver proof sets when I was a kid, and they’ve fallen into my hands some years back. I just got them out for the first time in 25 years or so to take a look at them. One set hasn’t aged well, but the other two look good for a 50 year old set.
That's really more what it should be about. Joy and memories. The whole value proposition should be way down the list. When I look at my 401k over the last couple years, there's no way the average or even above average collectible coin would keep pace. So, i just enjoy what I've got and consider it a sunk cost of my enjoyment.
I'll spend $100 for the dime, maybe less if it's a 69. It'll likely drop in value in the coming years, but I will hand enjoyed it my $100 worth in the meantime.
Totally agree. We are alike in that aspect. It's about spending money that I can do without, and enjoying what I spent it on. That said, I'll flip a coin here and there if it's not something I would add to my collection long-term.
I'm not as negative as some on this set. I don't think it's a great flip opportunity unless you want to grade them or split them up. But I don't think it's a horrible buy for a collector. Yes, it's got $150 premium over melt, but it's also a one year type with some interesting coins.
I'm personally expecting to spend $100 on a graded dime. I'd rather do that than mess with the set. FWIW
I'm also still holding my unc set subscriptions. FWIW
It's all relative.
For the buyer who only collects US coinage and particularly other US coins or sets like this one, it's not a terrible collectible value, but there are still better collectible values to most US collectors.
For someone like me who will compare it to well over half of all coins ever made (mostly excluding most Asian coins), it's a mediocre to terrible relative collectible value.
There are literally tens of thousands of coins (date/MM/design/denomination combinations) I'd rather buy for $245, other than if I think it will hold its value better than most others and prioritize getting my money back.
@mbr33 said: @jmlanzaf I am interested in your take on these numbers and if you know what subscription percentages are.
(above)
I don't know about the subscriptions.
It would be very unusual for them to violate the mintage limit. The ATS number when you actually can't buy them likely includes the subscriptions. The missing amount might be due to ABPP or that might be the actual number minted.
I'm not as negative as some on this set. I don't think it's a great flip opportunity unless you want to grade them or split them up. But I don't think it's a horrible buy for a collector. Yes, it's got $150 premium over melt, but it's also a one year type with some interesting coins.
I'm personally expecting to spend $100 on a graded dime. I'd rather do that than mess with the set. FWIW
I'm also still holding my unc set subscriptions. FWIW
Right. But the thing is, what people are really interested in is the cent, and there will be another 420K identical cents in the base metal set, which makes paying an extra $138 for silver, on top of an already crazy $107, less exciting.
The fact is that this set now sells for over double what it did a few years ago. $150 would be plenty for each of 250K of them. $245 is obnoxious. It would do well if they only made 150K of them, or if they cut the price.
But they are pricing it based on how last year's did in the secondary market, counting on excitement over the dual dates and privies to carry the day and support the higher mintage. People puking out their subscriptions ahead of release, and the buyers clubs losing interest, tell a different story.
@HalfDime said:
The value in this set is the 8 silver coins, plus the lincoln proof coin. That is 9 coins.
The UNC set really only has one coin, so this one has 8 times more.
ats 216,086
They must have sold the rest of the 250k to dealers.
I expect prices to be higher than $300 for these once the dust settles.
Actually, the unc set has 2 coins. And most people don't really care about the silver.
So it's really 1 vs 2, not 1 or 2 vs 9. The silver has intrinsic value, and that accounts for part of the price differential. And, 9 is not 8 times 1.
But, no, the "value in this set" is really not "the 8 silver coins." Most silver proof sets do not carry a premium to the base metal proof sets that are much more than melt.
The value is the cent that no longer circulates. Not less than 1.5 ounces of silver for $245.
@HalfDime said:
The value in this set is the 8 silver coins, plus the lincoln proof coin. That is 9 coins.
The UNC set really only has one coin, so this one has 8 times more.
ats 216,086
They must have sold the rest of the 250k to dealers.
I expect prices to be higher than $300 for these once the dust settles.
Actually, the unc set has 2 coins. And most people don't really care about the silver.
So it's really 1 vs 2, not 1 or 2 vs 9. The silver has intrinsic value, and that accounts for part of the price differential. And, 9 is not 8 times 1.
But, no, the "value in this set" is really not "the 8 silver coins." Most silver proof sets do not carry a premium to the base metal proof sets that are much more than melt.
The value is the cent that no longer circulates. Not less than 1.5 ounces of silver for $245.
Yeah, most silver proof sets were selling for under melt this year.
We AGREE!
(We may need to pick a fight or people will start thinking that we're alts.)
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Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary shall mint and issue, in qualities and quantities that the Secretary determines are sufficient to meet public demand, coins which—
(1)are 40.6 millimeters in diameter and weigh 31.103 grams;
(2)contain .999 fine silver;
(3)have a design—
(A)symbolic of Liberty on the obverse side; and
(B)of an eagle on the reverse side;
(4)have inscriptions of the year of minting or issuance, and the words “Liberty”, “In God We Trust”, “United States of America”, “1 Oz. Fine Silver”, “E Pluribus Unum”, and “One Dollar”; and
(5)have reeded edges.
@HalfDime said:
The value in this set is the 8 silver coins, plus the lincoln proof coin. That is 9 coins.
The UNC set really only has one coin, so this one has 8 times more.
ats 216,086
They must have sold the rest of the 250k to dealers.
I expect prices to be higher than $300 for these once the dust settles.
Actually, the unc set has 2 coins. And most people don't really care about the silver.
So it's really 1 vs 2, not 1 or 2 vs 9. The silver has intrinsic value, and that accounts for part of the price differential. And, 9 is not 8 times 1.
But, no, the "value in this set" is really not "the 8 silver coins." Most silver proof sets do not carry a premium to the base metal proof sets that are much more than melt.
The value is the cent that no longer circulates. Not less than 1.5 ounces of silver for $245.
Yeah, most silver proof sets were selling for under melt this year.
We AGREE!
(We may need to pick a fight or people will start thinking that we're alts.)
@HalfDime said:
The value in this set is the 8 silver coins, plus the lincoln proof coin. That is 9 coins.
The UNC set really only has one coin, so this one has 8 times more.
ats 216,086
They must have sold the rest of the 250k to dealers.
I expect prices to be higher than $300 for these once the dust settles.
Actually, the unc set has 2 coins. And most people don't really care about the silver.
So it's really 1 vs 2, not 1 or 2 vs 9. The silver has intrinsic value, and that accounts for part of the price differential. And, 9 is not 8 times 1.
But, no, the "value in this set" is really not "the 8 silver coins." Most silver proof sets do not carry a premium to the base metal proof sets that are much more than melt.
The value is the cent that no longer circulates. Not less than 1.5 ounces of silver for $245.
Yeah, most silver proof sets were selling for under melt this year.
We AGREE!
(We may need to pick a fight or people will start thinking that we're alts.)
Fight or not…..I love this. Your banter back and forth is always educational, at least for me. Undoubtedly others.
The fact is that this set now sells for over double what it did a few years ago. $150 would be plenty for each of 250K of them. $245 is obnoxious. It would do well if they only made 150K of them, or if they cut the price.
But they are pricing it based on how last year's did in the secondary market, counting on excitement over the dual dates and privies to carry the day and support the higher mintage. People puking out their subscriptions ahead of release, and the buyers clubs losing interest, tell a different story.
You just summed up why the mintages are almost certain to decline in future years, even more so if the issue price is increased (again) whether for higher spot prices or not, which it (almost) certainly will be.
Give it a few years, and this year's "low mintage" won't be so low, not that it actually is now.
So, the question then becomes, are the one-year designs sufficient to compensate for an inflated issue price?
I'll take the "under" on that wager.
It isn't interesting enough as a collectible for such a common (yes, common) set.
@Rc5280 said:
I expect prices to be $300 for a single dime or half in AR/FS PR70DCAM once the dust settles.
Yes the raw price for the set over $300, individually graded 70 special labels alone at that price or higher. The doubters here will be wrong.
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If I bought all my coins/sets from the mint based on the comments here I’d be in big trouble…lol Seems the ‘hot ones’ are usually not and the ‘cold ones’ are usually’hot.’ 🤔😂
@Rc5280 said:
I expect prices to be $300 for a single dime or half in AR/FS PR70DCAM once the dust settles.
Yes the raw price for the set over $300, individually graded 70 special labels alone at that price or higher. The doubters here will be wrong.
…..
If I bought all my coins/sets from the mint based on the comments here I’d be in big trouble…lol Seems the ‘hot ones’ are usually not and the ‘cold ones’ are usually’hot.’ 🤔😂
Predictions before release are one thing. When people refuse to accept the market after release, it's really entering a new realm of fantasy.
In this case, the subscriptions have been available more than not. That doesn't happen if the secondary market value is going to be above the release price. They are available right now. I'm supposed to believe that this set is going to be worth $300+ but no one wants to buy one now for $245.
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The fact is that this set now sells for over double what it did a few years ago. $150 would be plenty for each of 250K of them. $245 is obnoxious. It would do well if they only made 150K of them, or if they cut the price.
But they are pricing it based on how last year's did in the secondary market, counting on excitement over the dual dates and privies to carry the day and support the higher mintage. People puking out their subscriptions ahead of release, and the buyers clubs losing interest, tell a different story.
You just summed up why the mintages are almost certain to decline in future years, even more so if the issue price is increased (again) whether for higher spot prices or not, which it (almost) certainly will be.
Give it a few years, and this year's "low mintage" won't be so low, not that it actually is now.
So, the question then becomes, are the one-year designs sufficient to compensate for an inflated issue price?
I'll take the "under" on that wager.
It isn't interesting enough as a collectible for such a common (yes, common) set.
I can get BU examples of every coin except the pennies for $40 tops at local coin shows. There's no point buying the mint sets anymore.
@Rc5280 said:
I expect prices to be $300 for a single dime or half in AR/FS PR70DCAM once the dust settles.
Yes the raw price for the set over $300, individually graded 70 special labels alone at that price or higher. The doubters here will be wrong.
…..
If I bought all my coins/sets from the mint based on the comments here I’d be in big trouble…lol Seems the ‘hot ones’ are usually not and the ‘cold ones’ are usually’hot.’ 🤔😂
Predictions before release are one thing. When people refuse to accept the market after release, it's really entering a new realm of fantasy.
In this case, the subscriptions have been available more than not. That doesn't happen if the secondary market value is going to be above the release price. They are available right now. I'm supposed to believe that this set is going to be worth $300+ but no one wants to buy one now for $245.
I’m on the “it woukd be surprise” bandwagon for this being a big profit for the set itself. Some will divide them up and grade them and make money, but the set as it is isn’t going to be the 2025-redux. I could be wrong, but the number of sets available makes me believe the way I do
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I guess my thought was that silver has gone from $30 to $75 (2.5x) so 1.63x for the set was "relatively" cheaper. But yeah now that I think about it it's pretty stupid
well, it's good that you own it
Well, it is relatively cheaper on a percentage basis
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A lot of last minute sub cancellations before they ship. 9628 subs available this morning. Around 170,000 available for drop date as it stands now. Mintage supposedly 250,520
Yeah. That's directly related to that buyers club message you posted in the other thread. Shows you just how large an impact they could have.
I've been pausing subs on this and the regular proof set since your reminder on 5-28. I'm finally down to one on the silver. I really had problems getting my main account to show my subscriptions. I only wanted extra because I thought they were limited and might be in demand. I really don't know why, since I never flip them lol. I've still got 2021 Morgan and Peace and 2026 Congrats sets that I purchased with the same flawed thinking. After I get the regular proof cut back to minimum, it will be time to start on the uncirculated sets I have lined up.
it's funny because i tend to do the same thing. I maxed out my subscriptions for everything this year and then slowly cut them back because i realize it's not something i can flip (nor do i ever flip anything). But this product started off great and then the mintage doubled and now i'm thinking of only keeping 2 or 3 sets. I'm so new to collecting that it's hard to figure out what will be a good item to keep for the kids/grandkids, etc.
Glad to hear I was able to remind you in time to make the changes that you wanted to make. Had seen too many surprised collectors on the fifty cent piece get charged before they thought they would be.
The numbers gave me caution, too. I feel like $245 is a stretch, but I could be wrong. I just don’t see a 2025 repeat here on this 2026 silver set. There’s too many for that, and everyone who wants one will be able to get one….and that’s a GOOD thing.
….and if you did flip, there’s nothing wrong with that. Some collectors look at 2026 as a year to make some money on some things in order to fund another, more expensive offering. That’s a fine strategy to obtain something that maybe you wouldn’t normally want to, or be able to spring for. Everyone has an opinion on that, some different from mine and some the same. This set may appreciate over time to be worth more than what we are paying for it, and I hope it does for all the collectors that want it for that reason. There’s some pretty nice coins in there this year. .
My question is how many people will purchase these ?
You know , that’s a way to look at that which I didn’t originally consider. Yes, it shows this particular club has enough (or maybe doesn’t desire any at all now after the mintage limits rising) but it also shows that perhaps buying clubs do in fact have an outsized impact on some of these Mint products. That’s a lot of subs kicked back in. There’s been decent chunks of subs available for the past week off and on over various days and times.
Remains to be seen, but they seem to be sticking to 10 as an HHL on drop day. Could be a lot of people waiting to drop $2450 on ten of them. I’m doubtful, but there COULD be.
a quarter of a thousand dollars
I truly don't see that happening ?
I have been wrong before , and I will be wrong again in the future I'm sure !
Just trimmed my long standing 10 silver proof set subscriptions to 9, then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 & finally 4.
All updated on my subscriptions page. Still kept the next day delivery.
That $1,450 savings pays for the 10 Mint Sets I've yet to thin.
The bump up from 151,520 to 250,520 mintage last few weeks was too much to ignore.
No charge on the plastic & FOMO hit me so instead of getting just 4 in lieu of 10 or 5 or 6 haunted me. Bumped up two more to 6.
5 business days order adjustments allowed from tomorrow is...
"Ships on June 11th"
Huh? That's what they cost. Don't see what happening?
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200,000
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5302 subs open for this one, releasing in 7 days. They'll be hitting the credit cards soon.
No hit on credit card this morning, Friday June 5th.
Mine wasn't hit for my one set either. Maybe later today?
I'm wondering if the Mint will blow past the stated mintage limit of 250,520 on this set. The ATS this morning has bumped up to 216,086, and 4224 subs are available. With an HHL of 10, what are the odds they only took 30,210 subscriptions on this set? I don't know the Mint's official subscription percentages on any given product...are there such parameters they use for that?
@jmlanzaf I am interested in your take on these numbers and if you know what subscription percentages are.
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I don't know about the subscriptions.
It would be very unusual for them to violate the mintage limit. The ATS number when you actually can't buy them likely includes the subscriptions. The missing amount might be due to ABPP or that might be the actual number minted.
I'm not as negative as some on this set. I don't think it's a great flip opportunity unless you want to grade them or split them up. But I don't think it's a horrible buy for a collector. Yes, it's got $150 premium over melt, but it's also a one year type with some interesting coins.
I'm personally expecting to spend $100 on a graded dime. I'd rather do that than mess with the set. FWIW
I'm also still holding my unc set subscriptions. FWIW
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I was wondering about this set and its limits since they released more of them from 2025 earlier this year. I only got one this year, as I figured it was the best way to pick up some good quality 2026 coins. You are most likely correct that grading or splitting this set is the way to profit on it in the short-term.
Was good with ten sets at 151,520.
Dropped to four sets when mintage adjusted to 250k ~ish.
Then got the FOMOs so I am back up to six sets which contain almost 9 ounces of .999 silver.
Savings from 4 unpurchased silver proof sets mostly pays for ten 300k mintage Unc sets.
Still on the hook for a few Clad proof sets that I will likely delete a week before launch date, whenever that fleshes out.
I want more than the 7 of 10 HHL 1776~2026 ASE $ Uncs that "The Mint was legally required to make" "but did not for some reason" via HSN Mike.
Proof and mint sets have been dropping in popularity for years. I'm sure the SemiQ will cause a little spike in popularity, hence the Mintb increasing the limits. But I just don't know that there will be legs to it. This forum is not the average collector. The,"average collector", or maybe median collector, never spends $250 on anything.
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I’m generally a gold collector with a bit of silver bullion mixed in, but got caught up in the 2026 semi-Q hype and figured I would get one silver proof set. My Dad bought 3 of the 1976 silver proof sets when I was a kid, and they’ve fallen into my hands some years back. I just got them out for the first time in 25 years or so to take a look at them. One set hasn’t aged well, but the other two look good for a 50 year old set.
I've settled on five silver sets, two already flipped so I have three left (I'll grade the cent, dime, and half and maybe a set of quarters if they look good from two of them and just flip the spare pieces).
Going with 6 mint sets (2 flipped already) in the insane hope that they have some decent coins to grade from the other four, otherwise I have a lot of expensive pocket change.
I may buy a clad proof set or two just for the cent, dime, and half.
That's really more what it should be about. Joy and memories. The whole value proposition should be way down the list. When I look at my 401k over the last couple years, there's no way the average or even above average collectible coin would keep pace. So, i just enjoy what I've got and consider it a sunk cost of my enjoyment.
I'll spend $100 for the dime, maybe less if it's a 69. It'll likely drop in value in the coming years, but I will hand enjoyed it my $100 worth in the meantime.
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FYI, They are available to purchase on ebay (pre-sale) for that price right now.
Totally agree. We are alike in that aspect. It's about spending money that I can do without, and enjoying what I spent it on. That said, I'll flip a coin here and there if it's not something I would add to my collection long-term.
It's all relative.
For the buyer who only collects US coinage and particularly other US coins or sets like this one, it's not a terrible collectible value, but there are still better collectible values to most US collectors.
For someone like me who will compare it to well over half of all coins ever made (mostly excluding most Asian coins), it's a mediocre to terrible relative collectible value.
There are literally tens of thousands of coins (date/MM/design/denomination combinations) I'd rather buy for $245, other than if I think it will hold its value better than most others and prioritize getting my money back.
Right. But the thing is, what people are really interested in is the cent, and there will be another 420K identical cents in the base metal set, which makes paying an extra $138 for silver, on top of an already crazy $107, less exciting.
The fact is that this set now sells for over double what it did a few years ago. $150 would be plenty for each of 250K of them. $245 is obnoxious. It would do well if they only made 150K of them, or if they cut the price.
But they are pricing it based on how last year's did in the secondary market, counting on excitement over the dual dates and privies to carry the day and support the higher mintage. People puking out their subscriptions ahead of release, and the buyers clubs losing interest, tell a different story.
The value in this set is the 8 silver coins, plus the lincoln proof coin. That is 9 coins.
The UNC set really only has one coin, so this one has 8 times more.
ats 216,086
They must have sold the rest of the 250k to dealers.
I expect prices to be higher than $300 for these once the dust settles.
Actually, the unc set has 2 coins. And most people don't really care about the silver.
So it's really 1 vs 2, not 1 or 2 vs 9. The silver has intrinsic value, and that accounts for part of the price differential. And, 9 is not 8 times 1.
But, no, the "value in this set" is really not "the 8 silver coins." Most silver proof sets do not carry a premium to the base metal proof sets that are much more than melt.
The value is the cent that no longer circulates. Not less than 1.5 ounces of silver for $245.
There are 2 cents in the UNC set. And the proof Lincoln in this set is the same as the one in the base metal set.
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Yeah, most silver proof sets were selling for under melt this year.
We AGREE!
(We may need to pick a fight or people will start thinking that we're alts.)
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Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary shall mint and issue, in qualities and quantities that the Secretary determines are sufficient to meet public demand, coins which—
(1)are 40.6 millimeters in diameter and weigh 31.103 grams;
(2)contain .999 fine silver;
(3)have a design—
(A)symbolic of Liberty on the obverse side; and
(B)of an eagle on the reverse side;
(4)have inscriptions of the year of minting or issuance, and the words “Liberty”, “In God We Trust”, “United States of America”, “1 Oz. Fine Silver”, “E Pluribus Unum”, and “One Dollar”; and
(5)have reeded edges.
31 U.S. Code § 5112
I expect prices to be $300 for a single dime or half in AR/FS PR70DCAM once the dust settles.
Fight or not…..I love this. Your banter back and forth is always educational, at least for me. Undoubtedly others.
You just summed up why the mintages are almost certain to decline in future years, even more so if the issue price is increased (again) whether for higher spot prices or not, which it (almost) certainly will be.
Give it a few years, and this year's "low mintage" won't be so low, not that it actually is now.
So, the question then becomes, are the one-year designs sufficient to compensate for an inflated issue price?
I'll take the "under" on that wager.
It isn't interesting enough as a collectible for such a common (yes, common) set.
Yes the raw price for the set over $300, individually graded 70 special labels alone at that price or higher. The doubters here will be wrong.
If I bought all my coins/sets from the mint based on the comments here I’d be in big trouble…lol Seems the ‘hot ones’ are usually not and the ‘cold ones’ are usually’hot.’ 🤔😂
Predictions before release are one thing. When people refuse to accept the market after release, it's really entering a new realm of fantasy.
In this case, the subscriptions have been available more than not. That doesn't happen if the secondary market value is going to be above the release price. They are available right now. I'm supposed to believe that this set is going to be worth $300+ but no one wants to buy one now for $245.
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I can get BU examples of every coin except the pennies for $40 tops at local coin shows. There's no point buying the mint sets anymore.
I’m on the “it woukd be surprise” bandwagon for this being a big profit for the set itself. Some will divide them up and grade them and make money, but the set as it is isn’t going to be the 2025-redux. I could be wrong, but the number of sets available makes me believe the way I do