And Just Like That, Final Days CSNS Show Report, NEWPS added 4/27
Desert Moon
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ADDED NEWPS in separate post below.
So where to begin. Call me Ishmael. No wait, wrong story. Right. Okay this is supposed to be about how CSNS turned out. So…………….
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So everyone around the room at FUN said they were having their best show ever and that included me. Now everyone around the room at CSNS are saying they had their best show ever. How on Earth could you one up FUN? Somehow, it did happen, at least for me. There were not as many folks on the floor although more than OKC ANA last year. Yet people were spending money. Moola. Gold, Silver, er, Platinum? But you get the picture. Friday was much more active than the previous past 2 CSNS shows. I kept writing out invoices, collectors and some dealers, my inventory in the cases kept shrinking. The last invoice was Friday about 4 pm. @copperindian relieved me at my table a couple times so I could roam the room. Each time I found more coins to buy. My philosophy for this show was to buy the best possible coins I could find for the types I was interested in, in the grades I was interested in. I managed to buy 5 dozen + 1, all CAC/CACG except that 1. The 1 is on its way to New Jersey for Green Bean consideration. Let’s all pray to the key lime gods for a little green oval on the slab when it returns. I sold over 4 dozen including several big boy and big girl coins. Now that is called a show. For coins and coinees having fun.
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I roamed the floor with @Kliao on Friday just after lunch, and discovered a new dealer (for me). @Kliao told me he always visited that table and they had good stuff, good prices. And they had a coin of my childhood dreams that will be presented as a Cool Coin Showcase in the near future. As a kid, collecting was from pocket change and there was a dream of somehow striking it rich with a key Fair to Very Good copper penny. Well, I finally found one that as a dealer a half century later, I am willing to have in my case and it was at a price that I can resell. And it is not F to VG but MS………. So I started looking at their other offerings and bought 2 more. Said dealer will be seeing me at their table every show for now on. By Friday on my roams a couple dealers where I was raiding their coolest stuff every time I had a break were by then devoid of such largess. Was it me? Or was it just the hot activity on the floor? One of these dealers, on Friday at 5 pm pulled me in, brought me to his back table, and said, hey DM look at this one that just came up to the table 5 minutes ago. And then proceeded to show me a perfect coin for my case. I said ‘write it up’, he said ‘DM’ I’ve only just got it and I would like to think about it and study it for a while, you got to leave me something. But (in sympathy?), come back first thing tomorrow and I will think about it. More about that below.
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Some of the stories. @messydesk came to my table during a lull on Friday afternoon for some show and tell. He showed me not one, but two, seriously cool broadstruck Morgans, both MS and gorgeous. Whoa there is such a thing? Well yes, Sir Messy just demonstrated that there is. Yeowza.
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There is a very senior guy who roams the floor at some of the shows I go to. He stops at dealer tables and then goes on for hours about his coins and what he should do with them, what he should buy, what is good in your case and yada yada yada. But of course, never buys a thing. After a while, like more than 10 minutes, it gets tough to stay polite and attentive. While sure, we should be doing public service and educational stuff, er, but not this. He was at the table where I bought my childhood dream coin while I was there perusing and buying and you could tell by the look on the dealer faces he had already been there a while. So when he got to my table 3 aisles over I was ready. Here he comes, he stops at my table (!), starts putting his face right to the glass to look in. I know his routine and suffered for hours with it at prior shows. I immediately pull up my phone and say ‘I have to take this’ and run for the hills. I went to the next aisle over and went to Sir Messy’s table and kept an eye out. The plus was, more time to converse with Sir Messy and while I waited it out until this guy went for greener pastures. In about 10 minutes, with no one at my table to talk to, he left. So then I headed back ready to man the table for folks who want to really see my coins and possibly buy them. I know I know, it sounds cold hearted, but I really don’t have an hour or two to listen to his ramblings, we are there for business after all.
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On Friday at 5 pm I packed up the table, feeling charged up for a great evening of paperwork, and left for the pub in the Renaissance for some nice greasy pub food, a nice ale to go with it, and an after dinner Grand Marnier in celebration of a great show. Best laid plans of mice and men. I did get a chicken sandwich and fries, I did have a local craft IPA, but lo and behold, just about the time my Grand Marnier shows up, @PeakRarities, @Rarity7 @Davidk7, and another young gentleman I did not know (but do now) sit down at the next table over along the back side of the bar where there is a long cushioned and continuous seat with tables lined up along it, with about 18 inches between tables. @Davidk7 says DM, let’s move your table over and join us. So we pulled the table over and ‘CRASH!XX?**’. Oops, we er, at the moment forgot to realize my table was two tables and as we moved the segment close to their table, we managed to split it so the condiment glass tray was, that was, well, right in the middle of the two tables, gleefully fell right down to the floor. Who would have thought it? So glass all over the floor, a ketchup bottle exploded and covering the glass, one of the bar attendants immediately rushing over with a broom and dust pan (side note – quick reaction time, has this happened before?), and just like that efficiently cleaned up. With my deep apologies and embarrassment. Nevertheless, we had bourse and dealer stories for about an hour and then we all dispersed. At that point I thought, okay, now, the paperwork. I am a numbers guy I can’t wait to get at them. But @Davidk7 said, ‘DM, @copperndian and some others are over in the Gathering Bar next door do you want to go over with me and join the group?’. Well he was speaking my language. So we go over there, @copperindian’s wife is ordering me a Grand Marnier before I can even sit down. Then we all talked and talked and next thing I know it is 11:30 pm! Paperwork gone astray!
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So Saturday, today, I woke up at 4 am, and worked diligently for 4 hours prior to packing and heading for the bourse at 9 am. I had 75 minutes to hang out, first stop, CAC to deliver 5 coins for crossing and beaning, then to GC to deliver 4 coins for auctions and conversing, and bam, I still had an hour. So I started going to table for folks still present to say goodbyes and for last minute looks to see something to buy. I first went over to the table I was promised a decision from yesterday about the coin my dealer friend was considering over the evening. I came up and he said ‘DM, I just can’t do it, I need to have something to take home’. I said ‘no worries’ and we both laughed about it. I went to a few more tables of extant dealers, did not find anything, and finally ended up at Rarity 7. My goal was to find my way to Peak Rarities to say goodbye to Dan and David, but the stop at R7 had me perusing some very neat coins. And some were copper. And one was the sibling of my childhood dream coin I bought yesterday at the other table I discuss above. And it also met my standards but a different grade. I asked Noah and company for their best price, and dang it was doable with some room left for me. So last 2 coins, I walked away with a very red Randall Hoard large cent and another childhood dream coin. Numbers 60 and 61 for the show.
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By that time it was 5 minutes until my taxi arrived for O’Hare. So alas I never made it to the outer reaches of the bourse where the Peak Rarities table was as I headed straight to the front of the hotel to wait. I opened my phone and the message from the taxi company was that I was already picked up. What? Uh-oh, my taxi appointment time was 15 minutes earlier than when I had recorded in my mind. So I literally sprinted up to the lobby on the escalator dragging a heavy suitcase full of coins in panic and rushed right up to one of the front desk attendants. I said ‘I messed up and missed my taxi can you get me another’. Immediately she got on her computer and said ‘okay you should get your message about one about now’. Phone vibrated, message pops up, ‘your driver is 4 minutes out, track him on the map’. So I am sprinting in reverse down the escalator, rushed out to the front just as he pulls up. Whew! So here I am flying to Denver and the world is saved.
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In summary, a great show, successful in selling and buying beyond anything I could have expected, I got to hang out with a lot of great folks, and, my paperwork still got done!
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Thanks for reading, DM
Comments
Love it!! The Nutty Professor, hard at work (and play)!!
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Great write-up!
Latin American Collection
Wait….what…that was this weekend ?
Super report. I think that I ran into the guy that talks so much while he was at another table.
Fun is, wtg
You must be running on pure adrenaline. That was a great write up.
After all the traveling, setting up, buying and selling your going to be wiped out once you settle down.
Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
Successful BST transactions with: Namvet Justindan Mattniss RWW olah_in_MA
Dantheman984 Toyz4geo SurfinxHI greencopper RWW bigjpst bretsan MWallace logger7 JWP BruceS bigjpst
JWP PROMETHIUS88
Thanks DM for the great reports! Sorry to have missed all the fun. Hopefully next year.
USAF (Ret.) 1985 - 2005. E-4B Aircraft Maint. Crew Chief and Contracting Officer.
✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)
✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
✓ Matte Proof Toned Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1916)
As always it was a pleasure! Thank you for a great show report.
Looking forward to seeing your NEWPs!
Collector of Capped Bust Halves, SLQ's, Commems, and random cool stuff! @davidv_numismatics on Instagram
Al - it was an epic event topped off by your fabulous report. Looking forward to Pittsburgh & more great times ahead!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Copperindian II
Indy Eagles
Gold Rush
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Early Walkers
Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector
Great reports. Wish I had made it. Looking forward to seeing what you bought on your site.
Nice to finally meet Al, sorry you had to take that call while I looked at your coins
Successful BST with drddm, BustDMs, Pnies20, lkeigwin, pursuitofliberty, Bullsitter, felinfoel, SPalladino
$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
Great job with the write up and the show Al. Well done. Love to see your business growing!
Glad there was fun for all with a gret time 👍
thanks for a fun read!
Damn. Wish I could have been there to join the fun. So glad you had a great show!
"She comes out of the sun in a silk dress,
running like a water color in the rain...."
Another enjoyable read!
Congrats having a great show!
Enjoyed reading your report.
Thanks for the report on your successful show.
Great report! Glad you had a successful show. As always, it was great to chat with you and see the awesome coins you have to offer.
Collector
Over 100 Positive BST transactions buying and selling with 57 members and counting!
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Thanks for all of the comments! Here are images to show what I got for my personal collections. These are NFS and were picked up or bought at CSNS.
Swag from Dan:
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For my O-Mint half dime set:
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For my Bust Quarter set:
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For my Classic Head Half Eagle set:
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For my Conder token set, first one since 2017:
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Finally, for my '1 per country' 18th century gold set:
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What a wonderful read Al, big like from me.
That 48-O HD is a beast for the grade!
Whoa Al - you know I love that Classic Head & the CBQ! Great pickups!
Ken
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Copperindian II
Indy Eagles
Gold Rush
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Early Walkers
Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector
@Desert Moon I thoroughly enjoyed your reports from the Central states. And I might add that It fills my heart with joy, knowing that you still collect, even though you’re a dealer, now. That is truly the best of both worlds. Bravo!!👏 And, I absolutely love your Newps!! Congratulations!!!🎉🎈🍾
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Great newps! Glad you're enjoying both sides of the table.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
Like them all DM. Hard for me to pick a favorite from the bunch!
"She comes out of the sun in a silk dress,
running like a water color in the rain...."
Great newps. Loved the look of that 4 escudos and great looking classic half eagle too!
Collector
Over 100 Positive BST transactions buying and selling with 57 members and counting!
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Thanks for the tip - will keep the cell phone handy!
Good thing you found an 1838 to replace the one you sold me. Though mine is only a 58CACG. Great addition.
Successful BST with drddm, BustDMs, Pnies20, lkeigwin, pursuitofliberty, Bullsitter, felinfoel, SPalladino
$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
I just did the attribution. It is a V8a, R6, there is a die crack on the leaf to the right of E in DIME distinguishes it from V8, which is R5. As Clint Cummings has documented below - @yosclimber, there are 7, maybe this one 8 examples. But it might be overstated as he notes bc the die crack might be worn off on ≤XF examples. Nevertheless, not only fits my set but an interesting variety.
Yes that was lucky on my part. They are so close I honestly can't tell one from the other. It would have been good to put them side by side at the show and do a comparison. Both are incredibly pq for the grade, the + just means I had to pony up 20% more alas..................
Best, DM
I am thinking it was CRO who passed that solution on to me, but not sure...................
Part of the reason I decided in retirement to become a dealer was to enhance opportunities for building my collection in targeted areas, and to use the proceeds to that goal....................
I love that ideology! Very wise, successful and more FUN, too!! 👍
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Were there any vendors buying platinum at CSNS?
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
Not sure. I am not in the bullion buying and selling group.