66+ on the Ugly Scale?

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wev
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"1885-O Morgan Silver Dollar PCI “66+” Beautiful Toning"
https://www.ebay.com/itm/397834614300

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  • wev
    wev Posts: 160 ✭✭✭
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  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Typical PCI AT junk.

  • Meltdown
    Meltdown Posts: 9,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2026 12:29PM
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    Are those new PCI artificial toned coins from the REAL PCI company? I see their crap all over ebay when I'm looking for real ones and I just assumed it's some knock-off a-hole trying to scam folks.

  • leothelyon
    leothelyon Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Poor photography.

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  • golden
    golden Posts: 10,536 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Butt ugly!

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 14, 2026 8:16AM
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    Did it get dark toning over the decades?

    Sure 66 plus on the ugly scale. Nice coin.

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  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Cougar1978 said:
    Looks like it stored in somebody’s garage,

    Do you recon it tarnished (or got darker) over the decades? Heat, himidity?

    I'm pretty sure it wasn't minted that way. At least I reckon not.

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  • Colonialcoin
    Colonialcoin Posts: 924 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2026 5:18PM
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    Glad that it’s not a 79-O or 80-O.

  • BillJones
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    It looks like a coin that was dipped, not properly dipped and now the residue is ruining it over time.

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  • Meltdown
    Meltdown Posts: 9,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The coin is artificially toned. There are a couple dozen or more on ebay in those new PCI slabs. If they are indeed put out by the real PCI company, I will be disgusted. They had a history of accurate if not conservative grading back in the '90s.

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  • U1chicago
    U1chicago Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Meltdown said:
    Are those new PCI artificial toned coins from the REAL PCI company? I see their crap all over ebay when I'm looking for real ones and I just assumed it's some knock-off a-hole trying to scam folks.

    From what I have heard, the latest iteration of PCI is a dealer that self slabs these coins that have already been artificially toned. It is not the holder causing the toning. And we are multiple owners removed from the respectable PCI of the 1990s.

  • Whit
    Whit Posts: 375 ✭✭✭
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    Now I'm not going to able to sleep for at least 2 nights.

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  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    JEEZ that gives me second hand embarrassment!!!!!

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  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The photos are very poor. I’m split between AT or a very poorly dipped coin that has turned over the years as suggested by Bill Jones.

  • fathom
    fathom Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Definitely chemical usage to accelerate oxidation.

    Not an aesthetic result IMO.

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