Does this half warrant a Cameo designation? - Update, the coin has been graded.
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Borderline yes (likely meaning a no from the TPGs)
Would either of you care to say why?
Based on the images provided I would say the coin has insufficient and uneven frost.
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Lack of frost on Franklin’s cheek and left of/above his right brow, as well as large portions of the bell.
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Can we get a different picture?
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No, the frost is lacking to me (for lack of better words)
Especially the cheek which is the first thing most people look at. Edit, really close call though.
Cameo is possible.
I wish someone would offer a Proof like that to me for regular, non Cameo Proof money. I have seen less convincing examples in Cameo holders.
From these dinner plate size photos I say no, smaller photos might give a different perspective. No clue what any of the TPG's would say.
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I don’t think so, but 68 is a lock.
Grading Proof coins from images, is rarely a “lock” no matter how great they might look.
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You can find such coins with later date Franklins (56, 60-63) since the price jump from non cameo to cameo isn’t high (especially for grades below 67).
I’ve seen many photos of proof Franklins that appear cameo but aren’t designated as such by a TPG. I imagine they are nice coins with good contrast, but it’s a waste of time and maybe money to make a judgement or purchase based on a photo.
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No, lack of continuous frost on face and bell.
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True, I suppose, even a common coin, such as this could have hairlines but I certainly wouldn’t expect it to.
This date is very common in CAM, as you know, so I would not bother having one graded that I was not sure would go CAM. Even if this did cam, it doesn't have the eye appeal that these often have.
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Needs more frosting.
Sadly, not likely. I'd say they have tightened up their requirements a lot.
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Nope
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I'd give it a 75% chance of garnering the designation.
I recently submitted a 1950, hoping for PR-63 (no cameo), and it came back PR-62 CAM. So... um... a fair tradeoff I guess?
Edited to add: I also believe one of the major grading services has slightly more stringent standards for applying CAM (and UCAM for that matter).
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No
The front of Franklin's face looks frosty. You need more pronounce lighting to remove the shadows.
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The half has been sent in to our host for grading.
I will post the grade result and TruView photo of the coin.
The half dollar has been graded. The Trueview photo is below. No peeking. What do you think it graded?
68cam?
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Both sides exhibit more frost in the newly posted pictures. Which set of images is more accurate?
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The Trueview photo.
I think it got the CAM if the TV is more accurate.
Grade? No clue. 67??
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I’ll go PR 68 no cam based on the upper right yoke.
And 68 instead of 67 because the frosting is thick just not complete.
And to answer you in advance @mfeld
Because PCGS tends to grade proofs higher when they fail the cam designation with thick frost.
Example, the same coin could either go 67 cam or 68 no cam.
Edit: and I’m guessing that’s because the 68 with good frosting would have essentially a better strike. Albeit all things equal, including the images lol.
i bought this coin over 25 years ago. It was in a PCGS slab graded PF68. i thought it warranted a Cameo designation. i submitted it for reconsideration hoping for a Cameo designation. I was not successful.
I recently cracked the coin out of its slab and submitted it for grading raw. The coin received a grade of PF67CAM.
Well that proves that grading is always subjective, but I'm dumbfounded because it can also be a number sent down from heaven on a stone tablet depending on who's defending the grade and which thread you're reading
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Another piece of grading room info I was told before was about “double liners” where both the grade and designation could go either way. What they’ll do is give you one but not the other. Ie. either 67cam or 68 no cam, but not both.
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67CAM is what I had in mind. Just a couple noticeable "things" in the field above the date.
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PR68CAM.
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Nice coin. To bad you had to chase the designation but now your all set!
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