@Batman23 said:
I just spent a lot of time sitting in waiting rooms this morning. I woke up a little late so didn't get signed in but was hit with 6 minutes locked in a waiting room before it would release me to nothing available. Then at x:45 I log into my computer and am locked into another 6 minute waiting room before being let out for more nothing. This mint site and waiting room thing is random and weird.
They never used to bother with it in the morning. It's odd
Clearly the waiting room is automatically activated when server load reaches a threshold.
@Onastone said:
It is fun to watch the Waiting Room Clock though...like that waiting room has no concept of time.
Waiting time: 10 minutes....no, 30 minutes.....no wait, 15 minutes...5 minutes.....now 60 minutes...okay now it's 35 minutes.....1 minute.....wait a minute, just a minute, one minute please... finally- you're in...you now have 10 minutes to complete your purchase. Really? Are they really counting down 10 minutes or is that another sporadic timer too?
You do realize that this is based on an algorithm that changes and adjusts based on actual transaction rate? Some people, like my old man, probably consume most of the 10 minutes. I can check out in less than 1. So based on how I would design the software, there's likely a running average transaction time fluctuating between 2 and 7 minutes and the time you see the result of: [[Number of people in front of you]/[Max number of shoppers allowed]] * [Average transaction time].
@Batman23 said:
I just spent a lot of time sitting in waiting rooms this morning. I woke up a little late so didn't get signed in but was hit with 6 minutes locked in a waiting room before it would release me to nothing available. Then at x:45 I log into my computer and am locked into another 6 minute waiting room before being let out for more nothing. This mint site and waiting room thing is random and weird.
They never used to bother with it in the morning. It's odd
Clearly the waiting room is automatically activated when server load reaches a threshold.
@Onastone said:
It is fun to watch the Waiting Room Clock though...like that waiting room has no concept of time.
Waiting time: 10 minutes....no, 30 minutes.....no wait, 15 minutes...5 minutes.....now 60 minutes...okay now it's 35 minutes.....1 minute.....wait a minute, just a minute, one minute please... finally- you're in...you now have 10 minutes to complete your purchase. Really? Are they really counting down 10 minutes or is that another sporadic timer too?
You do realize that this is based on an algorithm that changes and adjusts based on actual transaction rate? Some people, like my old man, probably consume most of the 10 minutes. I can check out in less than 1. So based on how I would design the software, there's likely a running average transaction time fluctuating between 2 and 7 minutes and the time you see the result of: [[Number of people in front of you]/[Max number of shoppers allowed]] * [Average transaction time].
I agree, but the waiting room didn't use to trigger like that automatically. It wasn't even on for every release.
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@Mr Lindy said:
But will they drop everyone down to a lower number before release in 2026 ?
Congrats 2026 HHL 3 remained for subscribers after the drop to 1 HHL occurred.
1776~2026 Two Pennies with circ unc sets have no HHL, 190K Max
I won't know what happens till 4-14 tranche drops into shipping & delivery, then 4-21 ditto.
In mean time I've got a Congrats 26 ASE Philly due tomorrow.
@Mr Lindy said:
Just bumped a 1776~2026 single unc set to 2 then 3 then 4 and quit at 5. Now on the hook for 15 sets at $124.50 due June 30th 2026
Are you really "on the hook" though, if you can either cancel them, or send them back if you are not happy, or they don't do anything in the secondary market? Why not just go all the way to the limit on your credit card, and get it over with? At least until the drop everyone to 1, or 3, or whatever before release.
They have in the past. The didn't with the Congratulations Set. So, who knows?
The fact that there is no HHL now, and that people like you are loading up, makes it more likely they will impose a limit and retroactively enforce it. Otherwise, they will have even less to sell at release than they did with the Congratulations Set.
REALLY ? RETROACTIVELY....... Why bother having a posting that is inaccurate ?
Because things change. The posting is accurate at the time, but they usually do not fill orders that violate HHLs at the time of fulfillment.
So they don't change the subscription, but they only fill the order to the limit. Same way they can change pricing between when you sign up for a subscription and when it is filled.
@Batman23 said:
I just spent a lot of time sitting in waiting rooms this morning. I woke up a little late so didn't get signed in but was hit with 6 minutes locked in a waiting room before it would release me to nothing available. Then at x:45 I log into my computer and am locked into another 6 minute waiting room before being let out for more nothing. This mint site and waiting room thing is random and weird.
They never used to bother with it in the morning. It's odd
Clearly the waiting room is automatically activated when server load reaches a threshold.
@Onastone said:
It is fun to watch the Waiting Room Clock though...like that waiting room has no concept of time.
Waiting time: 10 minutes....no, 30 minutes.....no wait, 15 minutes...5 minutes.....now 60 minutes...okay now it's 35 minutes.....1 minute.....wait a minute, just a minute, one minute please... finally- you're in...you now have 10 minutes to complete your purchase. Really? Are they really counting down 10 minutes or is that another sporadic timer too?
You do realize that this is based on an algorithm that changes and adjusts based on actual transaction rate? Some people, like my old man, probably consume most of the 10 minutes. I can check out in less than 1. So based on how I would design the software, there's likely a running average transaction time fluctuating between 2 and 7 minutes and the time you see the result of: [[Number of people in front of you]/[Max number of shoppers allowed]] * [Average transaction time].
I agree, but the waiting room didn't use to trigger like that automatically. It wasn't even on for every release.
Either that, or they are just seeing a lot more traffic now than in the past. Because, while the waiting room didn't used to kick in at 7:30, or be used for every release, the site has never, to my knowledge, crashed since they started using the waiting room.
Would the 1993 P be the first proof American Silver Eagle struck at the Philadelphia mint? I'm just wondering because of the 2026 P Congratulation set, if I'm not mistaken there's been post saying this is the first coin. Just wondering.
@Mr Lindy said:
But will they drop everyone down to a lower number before release in 2026 ?
Congrats 2026 HHL 3 remained for subscribers after the drop to 1 HHL occurred.
1776~2026 Two Pennies with circ unc sets have no HHL, 190K Max
I won't know what happens till 4-14 tranche drops into shipping & delivery, then 4-21 ditto.
In mean time I've got a Congrats 26 ASE Philly due tomorrow.
@Mr Lindy said:
Just bumped a 1776~2026 single unc set to 2 then 3 then 4 and quit at 5. Now on the hook for 15 sets at $124.50 due June 30th 2026
Are you really "on the hook" though, if you can either cancel them, or send them back if you are not happy, or they don't do anything in the secondary market? Why not just go all the way to the limit on your credit card, and get it over with? At least until the drop everyone to 1, or 3, or whatever before release.
They have in the past. The didn't with the Congratulations Set. So, who knows?
The fact that there is no HHL now, and that people like you are loading up, makes it more likely they will impose a limit and retroactively enforce it. Otherwise, they will have even less to sell at release than they did with the Congratulations Set.
REALLY ? RETROACTIVELY....... Why bother having a posting that is inaccurate ?
Because things change. The posting is accurate at the time, but they usually do not fill orders that violate HHLs at the time of fulfillment.
So they don't change the subscription, but they only fill the order to the limit. Same way they can change pricing between when you sign up for a subscription and when it is filled.
Well, that already took place ..... going up to $124.50 from $33.00
@Batman23 said:
I just spent a lot of time sitting in waiting rooms this morning. I woke up a little late so didn't get signed in but was hit with 6 minutes locked in a waiting room before it would release me to nothing available. Then at x:45 I log into my computer and am locked into another 6 minute waiting room before being let out for more nothing. This mint site and waiting room thing is random and weird.
They never used to bother with it in the morning. It's odd
Clearly the waiting room is automatically activated when server load reaches a threshold.
@Onastone said:
It is fun to watch the Waiting Room Clock though...like that waiting room has no concept of time.
Waiting time: 10 minutes....no, 30 minutes.....no wait, 15 minutes...5 minutes.....now 60 minutes...okay now it's 35 minutes.....1 minute.....wait a minute, just a minute, one minute please... finally- you're in...you now have 10 minutes to complete your purchase. Really? Are they really counting down 10 minutes or is that another sporadic timer too?
You do realize that this is based on an algorithm that changes and adjusts based on actual transaction rate? Some people, like my old man, probably consume most of the 10 minutes. I can check out in less than 1. So based on how I would design the software, there's likely a running average transaction time fluctuating between 2 and 7 minutes and the time you see the result of: [[Number of people in front of you]/[Max number of shoppers allowed]] * [Average transaction time].
I agree, but the waiting room didn't use to trigger like that automatically. It wasn't even on for every release.
Either that, or they are just seeing a lot more traffic now than in the past. Because, while the waiting room didn't used to kick in at 7:30, or be used for every release, the site has never, to my knowledge, crashed since they started using the waiting room.
I think this is the case. There is a lot more interest in these coins for a variety of reasons.
@WALLE said:
Would the 1993 P be the first proof American Silver Eagle struck at the Philadelphia mint? I'm just wondering because of the 2026 P Congratulation set, if I'm not mistaken there's been post saying this is the first coin. Just wondering.
Yes. There have been numerous P Proofs in this series, but 1993 was the first.
The 2026 isn't important for being the first P, but it's the only P Proof this year with only 60,000 minted.
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@WALLE said:
Would the 1993 P be the first proof American Silver Eagle struck at the Philadelphia mint? I'm just wondering because of the 2026 P Congratulation set, if I'm not mistaken there's been post saying this is the first coin. Just wondering.
Yes. There have been numerous P Proofs in this series, but 1993 was the first.
The 2026 isn't important for being the first P, but it's the only P Proof this year with only 60,000 minted.
Yes, that waiting room was a challenge this go-round, and my laptop got lost in the shuffle as many stated above. BUT, I had the "Remind Me" from the US Mint on my iPhone and so I opened it up and it went right to the coin! So got my one and got out of there.
HOWEVER, 60,000 I still a lot of coins and makes any of the 100k issues like last year's privy marked coins to be irrelevant.
It is also my belief which is NOT supported by the dealer corps on this site that the general demographics for collecting coins is TERRIBLE and resembles the old Buick upside down pyramid demographic with there being some, but vastly fewer young collectors. Unfortunately IMHO from a coin fanatic there is nearly zero relevancy of coins, let alone the collecting of them amongst younger generations.
Sorry for going on a tirade but pointing up 1,2,10 or 100 examples of Yes to the contrary does not dissuade this opinion because in general there is NO interest amongst kids. I have noticed in my job where I see many people of many backgrounds and ages as well as at my son's school that these kids are just not interested across the board despite all efforts to generate interest.
Anyway, I am glad I got my single example. I think the mint will be selling many, many fewer of the non-exclusive issues - not that they care however.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
Well, a lot to unpack here in this thread. My experience was different somewhat. I actually forgot about this coin, riptide of daily life and all. Got a text from the mint. Hopped on my laptop at 8:45 AM, got in the waiting room. A little after 9:00 am the screen changed and I ordered 2 coins, but it only accepted one coin, paid and it's being delivered today! I think I got lucky...
Regarding the HHL, I understand that this time the existing subscriptions with quantities greater than one were honored.
During the past few weeks, I saw the “Add to Bag” multiple times, but I only added one.
I am wondering: if I had added more during the past few weeks, would those have been honored? At what point is the HHL applied?
@BruceS said:
Ordered another one, (different account) at 1230pm est today, so they are still releasing them.
I was going to try and order a 2nd. Refreshed the site several times today. Was put into the waiting room a few times, but the Remind Me button was still there once I got in.
1st 1 is due in today.
@Samuel8 said:
Regarding the HHL, I understand that this time the existing subscriptions with quantities greater than one were honored.
During the past few weeks, I saw the “Add to Bag” multiple times, but I only added one.
I am wondering: if I had added more during the past few weeks, would those have been honored? At what point is the HHL applied?
No. While the HHL was in effect, they would not have let you add more to an existing subscription. The fact that orders were fulfilled for existing subscriptions in excess of the HHL, that were in place before the HHL was lowered was either glitch or their new policy. TBD.
@Samuel8 said:
Regarding the HHL, I understand that this time the existing subscriptions with quantities greater than one were honored.
During the past few weeks, I saw the “Add to Bag” multiple times, but I only added one.
I am wondering: if I had added more during the past few weeks, would those have been honored? At what point is the HHL applied?
I put in a subscription for three Congratulations sets a while back…and received all three today. Thank goodness I didn’t have to deal with the waiting room. First good coin decision I’ve made in a while….lol
@Samuel8 said:
Regarding the HHL, I understand that this time the existing subscriptions with quantities greater than one were honored.
During the past few weeks, I saw the “Add to Bag” multiple times, but I only added one.
I am wondering: if I had added more during the past few weeks, would those have been honored? At what point is the HHL applied?
Yes they would have been honored.
He couldn't have added any in the last few weeks as the HHL was one at that time.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@Samuel8 said:
Regarding the HHL, I understand that this time the existing subscriptions with quantities greater than one were honored.
During the past few weeks, I saw the “Add to Bag” multiple times, but I only added one.
I am wondering: if I had added more during the past few weeks, would those have been honored? At what point is the HHL applied?
Yes they would have been honored.
He couldn't have added any in the last few weeks as the HHL was one at that time.
Correct. He could have only ordered whatever the HHL was at time of ordering.
When the HHL is set for one, you are able to get one. Honoring subscriptions for more than one is a glitch that they didn't fix in time. I've seen orders cancelled on account of someone trying to order more than the HHL before. If you tried to place more in your bag, I think you would have been flagged. I think the problem this time around was the HHL was higher at first and someone decided to change it, but didn't follow through with the subscription portion of the orders. IMHO
@Samuel8 said:
Regarding the HHL, I understand that this time the existing subscriptions with quantities greater than one were honored.
During the past few weeks, I saw the “Add to Bag” multiple times, but I only added one.
I am wondering: if I had added more during the past few weeks, would those have been honored? At what point is the HHL applied?
Yes they would have been honored.
He couldn't have added any in the last few weeks as the HHL was one at that time.
Don’t remember what at the moment but had 1 for subscription before HHL changed to 1. Then yesterday placed another subscription order for 1. Both orders confirmed at this point. Will see what ships when it’s time. 🤔
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
@Samuel8 said:
Regarding the HHL, I understand that this time the existing subscriptions with quantities greater than one were honored.
During the past few weeks, I saw the “Add to Bag” multiple times, but I only added one.
I am wondering: if I had added more during the past few weeks, would those have been honored? At what point is the HHL applied?
Yes they would have been honored.
He couldn't have added any in the last few weeks as the HHL was one at that time.
Don’t remember what at the moment but had 1 for subscription before HHL changed to 1. Then yesterday placed another subscription order for 1. Both orders confirmed at this point. Will see what ships when it’s time. 🤔
I had two subscriptions before Thursday, was able to order another single Thursday, all have shipped.
@Samuel8 said:
Regarding the HHL, I understand that this time the existing subscriptions with quantities greater than one were honored.
During the past few weeks, I saw the “Add to Bag” multiple times, but I only added one.
I am wondering: if I had added more during the past few weeks, would those have been honored? At what point is the HHL applied?
Yes they would have been honored.
He couldn't have added any in the last few weeks as the HHL was one at that time.
Don’t remember what at the moment but had 1 for subscription before HHL changed to 1. Then yesterday placed another subscription order for 1. Both orders confirmed at this point. Will see what ships when it’s time. 🤔
@Samuel8 said:
Regarding the HHL, I understand that this time the existing subscriptions with quantities greater than one were honored.
During the past few weeks, I saw the “Add to Bag” multiple times, but I only added one.
I am wondering: if I had added more during the past few weeks, would those have been honored? At what point is the HHL applied?
Yes they would have been honored.
He couldn't have added any in the last few weeks as the HHL was one at that time.
Don’t remember what at the moment but had 1 for subscription before HHL changed to 1. Then yesterday placed another subscription order for 1. Both orders confirmed at this point. Will see what ships when it’s time. 🤔
The HHL has been removed since Friday for the coin. What you don't want is to add a subscription. All subscriptions after Thursday are for 2027 not 2026.
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Clearly the waiting room is automatically activated when server load reaches a threshold.
You do realize that this is based on an algorithm that changes and adjusts based on actual transaction rate? Some people, like my old man, probably consume most of the 10 minutes. I can check out in less than 1. So based on how I would design the software, there's likely a running average transaction time fluctuating between 2 and 7 minutes and the time you see the result of: [[Number of people in front of you]/[Max number of shoppers allowed]] * [Average transaction time].
I agree, but the waiting room didn't use to trigger like that automatically. It wasn't even on for every release.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Because things change. The posting is accurate at the time, but they usually do not fill orders that violate HHLs at the time of fulfillment.
So they don't change the subscription, but they only fill the order to the limit. Same way they can change pricing between when you sign up for a subscription and when it is filled.
Either that, or they are just seeing a lot more traffic now than in the past. Because, while the waiting room didn't used to kick in at 7:30, or be used for every release, the site has never, to my knowledge, crashed since they started using the waiting room.
Would the 1993 P be the first proof American Silver Eagle struck at the Philadelphia mint? I'm just wondering because of the 2026 P Congratulation set, if I'm not mistaken there's been post saying this is the first coin. Just wondering.
Well, that already took place ..... going up to $124.50 from $33.00
I think this is the case. There is a lot more interest in these coins for a variety of reasons.
I have one that is expected to arrive tomorrow......
Yes. There have been numerous P Proofs in this series, but 1993 was the first.
The 2026 isn't important for being the first P, but it's the only P Proof this year with only 60,000 minted.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Thanks
I saw nothing.
They threw me in the waiting room and locked the door.....NO COIN FOR YOU.
.
Last year Silver Eagle with Marine privy mark was a proof "P", but the mintage is 100,000.
Had no waiting room at 7:29 and kept refreshing the new releases page....nothing was available.
Same here, refresh refresh go home and take your ball with you
Yes, that waiting room was a challenge this go-round, and my laptop got lost in the shuffle as many stated above. BUT, I had the "Remind Me" from the US Mint on my iPhone and so I opened it up and it went right to the coin! So got my one and got out of there.
HOWEVER, 60,000 I still a lot of coins and makes any of the 100k issues like last year's privy marked coins to be irrelevant.
It is also my belief which is NOT supported by the dealer corps on this site that the general demographics for collecting coins is TERRIBLE and resembles the old Buick upside down pyramid demographic with there being some, but vastly fewer young collectors. Unfortunately IMHO from a coin fanatic there is nearly zero relevancy of coins, let alone the collecting of them amongst younger generations.
Sorry for going on a tirade but pointing up 1,2,10 or 100 examples of Yes to the contrary does not dissuade this opinion because in general there is NO interest amongst kids. I have noticed in my job where I see many people of many backgrounds and ages as well as at my son's school that these kids are just not interested across the board despite all efforts to generate interest.
Anyway, I am glad I got my single example. I think the mint will be selling many, many fewer of the non-exclusive issues - not that they care however.
Well, just Love coins, period.
Well, a lot to unpack here in this thread. My experience was different somewhat. I actually forgot about this coin, riptide of daily life and all. Got a text from the mint. Hopped on my laptop at 8:45 AM, got in the waiting room. A little after 9:00 am the screen changed and I ordered 2 coins, but it only accepted one coin, paid and it's being delivered today! I think I got lucky...
Ordered another one, (different account) at 1230pm est today, so they are still releasing them.
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Regarding the HHL, I understand that this time the existing subscriptions with quantities greater than one were honored.
During the past few weeks, I saw the “Add to Bag” multiple times, but I only added one.
I am wondering: if I had added more during the past few weeks, would those have been honored? At what point is the HHL applied?
I was going to try and order a 2nd. Refreshed the site several times today. Was put into the waiting room a few times, but the Remind Me button was still there once I got in.
1st 1 is due in today.
No. While the HHL was in effect, they would not have let you add more to an existing subscription. The fact that orders were fulfilled for existing subscriptions in excess of the HHL, that were in place before the HHL was lowered was either glitch or their new policy. TBD.
Yes they would have been honored.
I put in a subscription for three Congratulations sets a while back…and received all three today. Thank goodness I didn’t have to deal with the waiting room. First good coin decision I’ve made in a while….lol
My single 2026 Philly Mint Marked American Silver Eagle Proof has landed.
Flawless 70 in perfect plastic capsule.
I just got mine, I'm keeping it sealed in the shipping box.
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
I'm doing the same !
He couldn't have added any in the last few weeks as the HHL was one at that time.
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Correct. He could have only ordered whatever the HHL was at time of ordering.
Lets see if any get added, maybe some will come back bc they were damaged.
On the remind list
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
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When the HHL is set for one, you are able to get one. Honoring subscriptions for more than one is a glitch that they didn't fix in time. I've seen orders cancelled on account of someone trying to order more than the HHL before. If you tried to place more in your bag, I think you would have been flagged. I think the problem this time around was the HHL was higher at first and someone decided to change it, but didn't follow through with the subscription portion of the orders. IMHO
Don’t remember what at the moment but had 1 for subscription before HHL changed to 1. Then yesterday placed another subscription order for 1. Both orders confirmed at this point. Will see what ships when it’s time. 🤔
The mint was very generous to us, let's hope it continues.
I had two subscriptions before Thursday, was able to order another single Thursday, all have shipped.
The system worked flawlessly. Got all 5 sets I subscribed for today.
2026 Congratulations subscriptions ended days ago, when they were launched.
However, 2027 Congratulations ASE $ are available for subscription:
Congratulations !
;^)
Well, not exactly flawlessly. You, as I were lucky it didn't. Our subscriptions should have been dropped to the new hhl of one.
The HHL has been removed since Friday for the coin. What you don't want is to add a subscription. All subscriptions after Thursday are for 2027 not 2026.
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Yes flawless. I got what I ordered. The US Mint does not reduce an order already placed.
Currently available to order per subscription
They have in the past reduced subscriptions, to meet the new hhl. This happened widely for the AWQ 3 roll sets.
That is not true.
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For 2027.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Not sure what you think you ordered, like @jmlanzaf said, the sub is for 2027 coins NOT 2026
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
That should not have happened. I didn’t subscribe to these so I can’t confirm.
What is the ATS for this coin ?
And how do I find this ?
Zero, or the red button would be available
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That has always been the Mint policy. What happened this year (several things) should not have happened.
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I think he's referring to the coins already shipped.
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I did not receive 2027 coins. 😂. They were the 2026 Congratulations Sets.