1799 Bust dollar cac or no?
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After vigorously studying the AU53 and AU55 PCGS Photogrades, I honestly don't think it would because I see a lot of wear for the grade and I don't necessarily think CAC would agree on the grade. That's just my opinion though.
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Do you think it would cac at AU50 then?
You should post the grade if you want a CAC prediction.
Having noted that it’s graded AU-53, I tend to doubt it. CAC probably wants more detail behind Ms. Liberty’s forehead. This might be a variety where that area is often weak, but I don’t know if CAC gets into the weeds like that.
There are many 1799 varieties, and I don’t have time at the moment to get in the weeds.
Send it in. Its worth a shot. Looks like an original coin. Its not expensive.
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With early dollars, I find that it's more about the surface preservation and originality than the technical grade for CAC criteria. Im going to vote no - a bit cleany, and I don't love those scratches, especially behind her head on obv.
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Before looking at the cert. I thought AU50 at least and the only detractor to note is the smudge on the 2nd S in STATES. Frankly, I've not seen enough of these in hand to evaluate surfaces... and be able to split hairs from an image...
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My opinion would yes, but I am not in CAC’s head. There is the dark spot on the last “S” of “STATES” which they might not like. It looks like it has enough luster to qualify, but that’s a factor one can only judge in person.
I think it is CACed. The coin is pleasant enough, I only see notable obverse scratches. Nice coin overall for a 53.
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This coin would not surprise me at all to receive a CAC sticker at AU53.
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On the fence. Has a shot and wouldn't totally surprise me, but I think the probability is low.
If I was relatively certain it hadn't been (at least in the last few years) I would certainly consider it more carefully.
The coin appears to have enough meat for the grade (IMO), but my not have the luster JA is looking for (like @BillJones suggested, that's almost impossible to judge from images). My guess is it does not.
Also, I absolutely agree with Dan @PeakRarities in that the surface qualities play a big part on whether a coin even has a shot. The scratches behind the hair do NOT help in that regard, at all, regardless of grade.
My experience would tell me that on coins in the EF/AU grades (an area I frequent), surface qualities might even be more important to JA than the actual grade point ... within reason, of course. That is my observation, and has no basis otherwise.
I vote would be "no bean" based on what I see (and think I see) from the images.
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From the standpoint of wear alone I see this as a 55 net graded to 53. There are only touches of actual wear here and there, and I think it's net graded due to the long scratch across Liberty's face and muted luster. When evaluating AU early bust coinage CAC definitely seems to weigh luster and surface quality very heavily, so I would vote "no" due to the scratch.
That said, from the TrueView (which could be misleading) it looks like the scratch is old and toned over. I think it's a solid grade for a solid coin, regardless of whether CAC approves of it or not.
That’s certainly a possibility
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