Post your Pillar Dollars
A key coin in early America and in global trade during the colonial period. The sashes around the Pillars lent themselves to the dollar sign we now associate with the US dollar.
Pillar Dollars were minted in Mexico City, Lima Peru, Potosi Bolivia, Santiago Chile, Nuevo Guatemala, Guatemala and Nuevo Reino, Colombia.
Mexico and Lima are common across most dates.
Potosi is scarer especially in high grade. Guatemala is scare with some dates very rare. Most are crude reflecting the primitive conditions of the mint. Mint state pieces are exceptionally rare.
Santiago and Nuevo Reino are rare as the mint primarily produced gold. Perhaps 50 Santiago Pillars Dollars exist with 80% being problem coins and most being from 1758 or 1768.
Nuevo Reino produced Pillar Dollars in 1759, 1760, 1762 and 1770. The 1760 and 1762 and exceptionally rare with 1-2 in private hands. The 1759 has about 15 coins extant. There was a hoard in a church which uncovered a group of previously unknown 1770 dated coins. All are blast white and in high grade.
Here are a few. Post them if you have them:
Santiago

Lima
Guatemala

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I have always liked Pillar Dollars. Several decades ago, I started a date set of them. I got 6-8 of them and quit. I only kept the best one for type.
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Her's mine from my Type set, PCGS XF45


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My one and only "Wings" coin, which I understand to be like the CAC of foreign coins. It looks much better in hand, lovely rainbow toning not seen here.
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My only pillar dollar purchased from John Kraljevich.
They are really historic coins.
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Yeah I’ve been itching to see this thread gain some legs as well.
Im out of pillar 8R to share …...but working on the colonial/early America set.
Can we expand to other pillar denominations from early America?
Anything to shamelessly show off one of my favorite coins. @Boosibri feel free to to shut down the veer from 8R if I’m ruining the purity here…..
1768 Pts JR Bolivia 4 Reales (VF 35)
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Hi and happy February! Cheers! Figured sharing my first ever Pillar 8 reales that I got back when I was a college student in 2021. (Crossed over from a NGC AU 58 and pretty happy with that extra and nifty "plus" grade from PCGS.)
Choice and lustrous! Love the golden tone! (Will post couple more of my Pillars, my favorite non-Asian coin type, soon!)


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The reason I am not posting any Pillar Dollars is because I don't like being told what to do (thread title).
Another lesser reason is because I don't own any.1 -
@Tranquility said:
The reason I am not posting any Pillar Dollars is because I don't like being told what to do (thread title).
Another lesser reason is because I don't own any.You must not be married
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@Boosibri said:
@Tranquility said:
The reason I am not posting any Pillar Dollars is because I don't like being told what to do (thread title).
Another lesser reason is because I don't own any.You must not be married
My wife likes to pretend that is true.
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Peru 1
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Amazing group @JohnnyCache.
Wow.
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Are we doing minors now?! I have lots of those.
NGC EF45, 1755 Guatemala, small J (the rarer of the two.) REALLY nice luster, surprisingly. Hairy planchet crack through the date. Love it!


1770 Bolivia, decent for the grade, I bought this a a while ago, haven’t found an upgrade yet that I liked…well, there was one…$$$


Peru, really really wonderful surfaces, luster, color. I’m a big fan of this one.


1749, it’s ok, nice grade, good pedigree. It’s charmingly warm toned, cleaned at some point I’m sure. This is my current type coin, eventually I’ll get one from each king.


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Here’s one version of a type set, trying to get coins that have a warmer look.





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@JohnnyCache said:
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Stunning electric blue toning on your 1739 one real! That is my favorite color for 17th and 18th century silver.
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I only have two. I bought this one many years ago at an ANA show.

I spotted this one in a SEGS holder at a Baltimore show for $200. It had been dipped, but it still seemed cheap.

And for those who think these coins are safe from counterfeits, here's one to prove that assumption wrong. This is NO GOOD.

Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?5 -
Guatemala type set. These are my current highest grades of the Guatemala coins I own. They’ve been hard to find.







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If we are going include the factional pieces.
Half Reale

One Reale

Two Reales

Four Reales, These are tough for some reason
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?5 -
@Boosibri said:
Bump...There have to be more Pillar Dollars on the forum?I hear you loud and clear!
This is a 1736 Mo MF 8 Reales from the Count of Aranda Collection:

It now resides in a PCGS XF45 slab. Photos without the plastic are better.It appears that 1770 was the only year that all six colonial mints produced pillar coinage. That would be an epic set: one 1770 8R for each of the six mints. Nearly impossible since there are only two Santiago coins and 14(?) Nuevo Reino coins. Any takers for this 1770 challenge? The set would likely cost north of $150K to assemble, but only if one of the Santiago coins came out of the woodwork; @Boosibri might know their whereabouts.
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I previously owned this 1761 PCGS AU50 but swapped it.

My current coin is ten grade points lower but an earlier date, and I like it more, for the contrasting grey toning.



Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
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@Plus00Vltra said:
@Boosibri said:
Bump...There have to be more Pillar Dollars on the forum?I hear you loud and clear!
This is a 1736 Mo MF 8 Reales from the Count of Aranda Collection:

It now resides in a PCGS XF45 slab. Photos without the plastic are better.It appears that 1770 was the only year that all six colonial mints produced pillar coinage. That would be an epic set: one 1770 8R for each of the six mints. Nearly impossible since there are only two Santiago coins and 14(?) Nuevo Reino coins. Any takers for this 1770 challenge? The set would likely cost north of $150K to assemble, but only if one of the Santiago coins came out of the woodwork; @Boosibri might know their whereabouts.
I’d guess 3-4 1770’s are floating around. And yes, I believe I do know where one is. Problem for me doing the set is that I really don’t like the value of the 1770-NR. They are all white and conserved looking, though this is how I’m told they were found. Who knows how many really exist.
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My pillar 1/2R currently in Early America set.
VF 30
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My pillar dollar:

Spain Mexico City 8 Reales 1748
Silver, 38.0 mm, 27.07 gm Assayer: MF
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Great thread! I've just recently become more enamored these chunks of silver. Thanks to @lordmarcovan for the enticement that got me started a few years back.3 -
I couldn't resist... just returned from my first-ever visit to Madrid and snapped this at the Royal Palace museum
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I only have two 8Rs but not with a picture. The Richard Stuart NGC AU-58 1770G 8R and a Bolivia NGC AU-58 1769 8R.
I have a lot of the minors, mostly from Peru. Here are a few:


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Fantastic coins @WCC
I’ve been looking for a nice Bolivia 8R. Quite difficult
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@JohnF said:
I couldn't resist... just returned from my first-ever visit to Madrid and snapped this at the Royal Palace museum
The pillars are also in front of Karlskirche in Vienna, Austria:
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@WCC said:
I only have two 8Rs but not with a picture. The Richard Stuart NGC AU-58 1770G 8R and a Bolivia NGC AU-58 1769 8R.I have a lot of the minors, mostly from Peru. Here are a few:



That 1758 is stunning
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Thanks, but unfortunately, it likely doesn't meet your strict standards. Slight clutter in the fields and mostly untoned.
Northeast Numismatics had a PCGS AU-58 several years earlier that has noticeably better eye appeal. It was about 50% more and above my price range at the time. I recall they also sold the PCGS MS-64 but that was way above my price range. I believe it used to be owned by a forum member.
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Can’t I just have ONE AU55 Bolivia 1767 or 1768 8 Reals with original color/surfaces and beautiful luster? For a reasonable price? Is that too much to ask?!
Evidently yes…yes it is.
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@SimonW said:
Can’t I just have ONE AU55 Bolivia 1767 or 1768 8 Reals with original color/surfaces and beautiful luster? For a reasonable price? Is that too much to ask?!Evidently yes…yes it is.
There is a very nice one at stacks about two years ago that I wish I would’ve bought
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Recent addition to my Early America set……
VF 30
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@SimonW said:
Guatemala type set. These are my current highest grades of the Guatemala coins I own. They’ve been hard to find.






Fantastic type set!
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