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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The just stopped Stafford in the red zone. Unless the LA defense can stop them, the game is toast for Seattle.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Who is the MVP? May just carried his term to the Super Bowl. Stafford just failed to do the same for his team. Stafford is the better quarterback, but results count. Stafford failed to deliver in the red zone when it counted.

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Special teams lost the game for the Rams just like they lost them for Miami. Stafford had a great game.

    I still will never understand why all the tip of the ball has to cross the goal line but not the sidelines

    Fire AJ Preller

  • WildWestHalfDollarsWildWestHalfDollars Posts: 6,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Super Bowl

    New England vs Seattle

    I think Seattle will win.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That muffed punt by that moron cost them the game without question

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    That muffed punt by that moron cost them the game without question

    Yes. It was a momentum killer as was the Rams not kicking a FG late. Complexion of the game changed with those 2 plays.

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have NE to win SB ML but I have conceded defeat early. I don't think they have the defense or firepower to overcome the Hawks. I really hope I am wrong. I
    I will have to be content that day to overdose on wings and potato salad.😀

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @perkdog said:
    That muffed punt by that moron cost them the game without question

    Yes. It was a momentum killer as was the Rams not kicking a FG late. Complexion of the game changed with those 2 plays.

    They still would have lost it they kicked the FG. They would have covered the spread but the same result

    Fire AJ Preller

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 12,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm happy for Sam Darnold!

    I guess the Vikings didn't need him. :-(

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @perkdog said:
    That muffed punt by that moron cost them the game without question

    Yes. It was a momentum killer as was the Rams not kicking a FG late. Complexion of the game changed with those 2 plays.

    They still would have lost it they kicked the FG. They would have covered the spread but the same result

    How about if the Rams did not muff the punt? Same result?

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2026 10:43PM

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @perkdog said:
    That muffed punt by that moron cost them the game without question

    Yes. It was a momentum killer as was the Rams not kicking a FG late. Complexion of the game changed with those 2 plays.

    They still would have lost it they kicked the FG. They would have covered the spread but the same result

    How about if the Rams did not muff the punt? Same result?

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @perkdog said:
    That muffed punt by that moron cost them the game without question

    Yes. It was a momentum killer as was the Rams not kicking a FG late. Complexion of the game changed with those 2 plays.

    They still would have lost it they kicked the FG. They would have covered the spread but the same result

    How about if the Rams did not muff the punt? Same result?

    Rams very likely win if that didnt happen. He got removed for that. Them getting the ball back was basically a long pass on 4th down

    Fire AJ Preller

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i woke up this morning thinking about the fiascos that took place when Seattle punted the ball to LA yesterday. the Rams' returner has one job -- to field punts cleanly and, if possible, advance the ball up the field. if not possible, signal for a fair catch. but above all else, catch the football. and if for whatever reason you're a football player who can no longer catch a football, get the hell out of dodge. having it downed at the 1 is far better than handing the ball to the opposition and giving them a super short field. or even worse, gifting them a touchdown right then and there.

    in the first half, that kid muffed an easy punt. and it was easy because he called for a fair catch, so the red sea parted for him. luckily for him and the Rams, he got on the ball before a player with a bird on their helmet did. but that was a warning. tornado sirens started blaring. truly great coaches take notice of warnings when the stakes are highest and make the proper adjustments. Sean McVay ignored it and left Xavier Smith in. at a critical point in the second half, Smith practically handed Seattle a touchdown because he made one of the worst attempts at fielding a punt i've ever seen. he tried to catch it falling backward and voila, the Seahawks were a hop, skip, and a jump from the end zone. then, and only then, did it dawn on McVay that his punt returner was actually playing for Seattle. he made the switch to Kyren Williams. too late.

    i hear all the time about Sean McVay being one of the greatest coaching minds in the NFL. i question that. i can promise you that if i had been him, i would have stuck Williams in without hesitation after the first shaky attempt. all i would have needed is to see Xavier Smith manifesting his inability to effectively perform the duties of his job one time before i made the switch. it was no time for second chances. that was for a spot in the Super Bowl, bruh. McVay ignored the warning, left him in, and the Rams got stabbed by a dagger. a wound they never recovered from. in hindsight, it turned out to be the primary reason why they're going to be watching the Super Bowl instead of playing in it. so as much as Xavier Smith is to blame, Sean McVay is equally as culpable imo.

    if i was an LAR fan i'd be angry today, i'm not gonna lie. HCs are paid handsomely to put their team in the best possible position to win, and especially so when they're a game away from the pinnacle. if there are any Rams fans reading this, i'm sorry that your coach failed to do that at the worst possible time yesterday.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Before the Championship games I placed a $500 wager , Seattle over New England +380 so you know who I’m pulling for.
    I still might hedge my bet but as of now I’m standing pat.

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  • ElMagoStrikeZoneElMagoStrikeZone Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    i woke up this morning thinking about the fiascos that took place when Seattle punted the ball to LA yesterday. the Rams' returner has one job -- to field punts cleanly and, if possible, advance the ball up the field. if not possible, signal for a fair catch. but above all else, catch the football. and if for whatever reason you're a football player who can no longer catch a football, get the hell out of dodge. having it downed at the 1 is far better than handing the ball to the opposition and giving them a super short field. or even worse, gifting them a touchdown right then and there.

    in the first half, that kid muffed an easy punt. and it was easy because he called for a fair catch, so the red sea parted for him. luckily for him and the Rams, he got on the ball before a player with a bird on their helmet did. but that was a warning. tornado sirens started blaring. truly great coaches take notice of warnings when the stakes are highest and make the proper adjustments. Sean McVay ignored it and left Xavier Smith in. at a critical point in the second half, Smith practically handed Seattle a touchdown because he made one of the worst attempts at fielding a punt i've ever seen. he tried to catch it falling backward and voila, the Seahawks were a hop, skip, and a jump from the end zone. then, and only then, did it dawn on McVay that his punt returner was actually playing for Seattle. he made the switch to Kyren Williams. too late.

    i hear all the time about Sean McVay being one of the greatest coaching minds in the NFL. i question that. i can promise you that if i had been him, i would have stuck Williams in without hesitation after the first shaky attempt. all i would have needed is to see Xavier Smith manifesting his inability to effectively perform the duties of his job one time before i made the switch. it was no time for second chances. that was for a spot in the Super Bowl, bruh. McVay ignored the warning, left him in, and the Rams got stabbed by a dagger. a wound they never recovered from. in hindsight, it turned out to be the primary reason why they're going to be watching the Super Bowl instead of playing in it. so as much as Xavier Smith is to blame, Sean McVay is equally as culpable imo.

    if i was an LAR fan i'd be angry today, i'm not gonna lie. HCs are paid handsomely to put their team in the best possible position to win, and especially so when they're a game away from the pinnacle. if there are any Rams fans reading this, i'm sorry that your coach failed to do that at the worst possible time yesterday.

    And there I was thinking McVay would give his team the edge by outsmarting the other guy. Now we know why I never bother betting on football. :#

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Someone needs to place a bet and get really good odds that one of the two Head Coaches in the Super Bowl will either:
    --- Go for the two-point conversion and fail when he should have taken the one-point kick.
    or
    --- Go for it on 4th down inside the 30 yard line and fail when he should have kicked the FG.

    The "river boat gambler" mentality is just getting ridiculous in the NFL and it's spreading like a virus. Right now Sean Payton should be hospitalized.

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rams had special teams issues all year and even fired their special teams coach before the new year. For the most part they were able to overcome it, but it finally caught up to them. Theyre going to need to address it this off season. Even if you just have someone thats sure handed and cant run its better than whatever that was

    Fire AJ Preller

  • donpauldonpaul Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    i thought this seattle D was supposed to be otherworldly. not all that impressed so far. Houston looked much tougher/more aggressive.

    Seahawks played the Niners 3 times and the rams 3 times both the rams and Niners are the 2 best offense in the nfl

    Seattle is not playing scrubs like Miami
    Ny jets raiders Texans these are all high school offenses

    If Seattle played this schedule they would have at least 5 shutouts this year

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seattle played a 2nd place schedule, New England played a 4th place schedule. It does make a difference.

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sanders being a pro bowler means its time to just stop that game

    Fire AJ Preller

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stick to the college thread, your insightful analysis fits better over there.

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  • bgrbgr Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    Stick to the college thread, your insightful analysis fits better over there.

    He must really be under your skin. You follow him around like a kid sister.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    on another forum I just read there is some speculation that Maye injured his right shoulder at the end of the 3rd quarter on sunday. one "doctor" is speculating he needs surgery.

    anyone heard anything? Vrabel was vague at his press conference (as he should be)

    if true, Patriots are cooked

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 27, 2026 1:05PM

    @craig44 said:
    on another forum I just read there is some speculation that Maye injured his right shoulder at the end of the 3rd quarter on sunday. one "doctor" is speculating he needs surgery.

    anyone heard anything? Vrabel was vague at his press conference (as he should be)

    if true, Patriots are cooked

    We will find that out after the Super Bowl

    I imagine he got hurt during one of his runs with a ridiculously stupid ending, you remember the one where he turned his back to an incoming tackle and dropped down on his rear end and got folded up from behind like a lawn chair?

    His shoulder and back took the brunt of it, I been saying all season that this kid needs to learn how to SLIDE

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 27, 2026 12:25PM

    i saw this last night and immediately called my dad. he's been to 4 Super Bowls:

    X in 1976 - Pittsburgh 21, Dallas 17
    XII in 1978 - Dallas 27, Denver 10
    XIII in 1979 - Pittsburgh 35, Dallas 21
    XIV in 1980 - Pittsburgh 31, Los Angeles 19

    i asked him if he had any recollection of his ticket price for X in '76

    "yep, 20 bucks. we had ours before we got there (he went with a family friend each time), but i remember people everywhere selling them outside the stadium at that price."

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If Maye is hurt that is really unfortunate. Injuries are a part of the game and the season is long and brutal, it would be nice to see these teams at full strength. A Super Bowl decided ahead of time by a pivotal injury just plain sucks.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A Secret Drake Maye Shoulder Injury? Doctor Explains. : r/Patriots https://share.google/oG2hlLFn3ofu9fHFq

    This shows the play I was referring to

  • donpauldonpaul Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    sam darnold was hurt and seattle still destroyed the high flying niners 41-6 and sam darnold was still wearing a wrap around his mid section when seattle beat maybe the best team in the NFL the Rams.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maye should be fine. Theyll give him a pain killer shot if they have to but he said today it wasnt anything significant and just from the long grind of the season. They might limit him in practice but theres also the extra week and he said hes going to play

    Fire AJ Preller

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 4,168 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    i saw this last night and immediately called my dad. he's been to 4 Super Bowls:

    X in 1976 - Pittsburgh 21, Dallas 17
    XII in 1978 - Dallas 27, Denver 10
    XIII in 1979 - Pittsburgh 35, Dallas 21
    XIV in 1980 - Pittsburgh 31, Los Angeles 19









  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cleveland Browns hire ex-Ravens OC as next Head Coach.

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  • VikingDudeVikingDude Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭

    New GM in Minnesota - not surprising

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    JMHO, but I think a lot of Franchises would do better if they fired their GM's instead of their HC's. I know that is the case with the Cleveland Browns. Andrew Berry is so stuck on analytics that the process is even used in the hiring process.

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  • bgrbgr Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Analytics is merely the science of using statistics to inform decisions... Bad analysis tends to produce poor results, but that should not be conflated with the misunderstanding of randomness and outliers by non-technologists.

    I do agree that many head coaches are prematurely discarded. I would want a head coach that leveraged historical significance to direct their decisions in game-critical situations within the context of the individual game. As in... those HCs who can maximize the value of their risk.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    somehow this doesn't seem equitable

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are they just trying to make France hate the NFL?

    Fire AJ Preller

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Browns vs Saints?

    Are they serious??

  • VikingDudeVikingDude Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭

    Saints make sense. Browns have a Pro Bowl quarterback so c'est la vie!

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    now that is no way to make Europe like "real" football.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why not the Browns??? As things now stand they are in a tie for 1st place in the AFC North. 😂😂😂😂

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    word is coming out that Robert Kraft is also not a HOFer this cycle either. It must be the whole "massage" thing, no?

    has there been a more successful/influential owner in the last 30 years?

    He kept the team in Mass (they were practically packed up to go to St. Louis if memory serves) built a new stadium, hired some very successful coaches (tuna, BB, Vrabel)

    oh, and 11 SB appearances and 6 wins...

    what more does an owner have to do?

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3, 2026 11:57AM

    @craig44

    i think it's the stupid ass voting process, which in my opinion cancels out support the way it is set up

    one voter who didn't check the box for BB admitted that he was a first-ballot guy, but he bypassed him due to the process. it wasn't as simple as saying yes or no, otherwise he would have voted for him. his hands were tied because he could only choose 3 of 5 guys, and he felt that Roger Craig, Ken Anderson & L.C. Greenwood were not only worthy, but should have been in a long time ago and ran the risk of never getting in. he felt the time was now for them so that's where his focus went, knowing full well that Bill & Bob would one day get enshrined. and that why he voted the way he did.

    i'm sure there are other voters who had a similar mindset, and that's why Kraft was on the outside looking as well.

    the process sucks, but it's really no surprise because let's face it.....the halls as a whole suck too

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    El Presidente sporting a sweet hoodie

    i'm not even a Pats fan and i want one of these !

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3, 2026 12:27PM

    I'm one of the bigger Pats fans out there and I love that Kraft and Hoodie got left off the first ballot induction 100%

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All three should go in at the same time and the order of speeches should be Kraft, Belichick, Brady.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    word is coming out that Robert Kraft is also not a HOFer this cycle either. It must be the whole "massage" thing, no?

    has there been a more successful/influential owner in the last 30 years?

    He kept the team in Mass (they were practically packed up to go to St. Louis if memory serves) built a new stadium, hired some very successful coaches (tuna, BB, Vrabel)

    oh, and 11 SB appearances and 6 wins...

    what more does an owner have to do?

    If thats true and he doesnt, it will almost certainly be because of his politics

    Fire AJ Preller

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would ask the serious question: What did Robert Kraft DO for the NFL per se to advance the league??

    I would not debate that he did great things for his TEAM, but what did he do for the league?? That should be part of the criteria for inclusion to the HOF for a non-player.

    Consider Art Modell, a man who is despised in NEOhio for what he did. He is not in the HOF but I would argue he is far more deserving than Kraft. In the 1960’s when the NFL was limping along and fighting a rival league Modell, an ex-advertising executive became principal owner of the Cleveland Browns. He promptly negotiated a multi-network and multi-year TV deal that put the NFL in the forefront of American Sports. He also got the ABC deal for MNF.

    Without those deals the NFL might not be what it is today. What is the HOF waiting for??

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    on another forum I just read there is some speculation that Maye injured his right shoulder at the end of the 3rd quarter on sunday. one "doctor" is speculating he needs surgery.

    anyone heard anything? Vrabel was vague at his press conference (as he should be)

    if true, Patriots are cooked

    If Maye is injured, you may as well watch movie instead of the Super Bowl.

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  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, it’s a little over 4 days till the Super Bowl, is everyone ready to watch Bad Bunny?? 😂😂😂

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    I would ask the serious question: What did Robert Kraft DO for the NFL per se to advance the league??

    I would not debate that he did great things for his TEAM, but what did he do for the league?? That should be part of the criteria for inclusion to the HOF for a non-player.

    Consider Art Modell, a man who is despised in NEOhio for what he did. He is not in the HOF but I would argue he is far more deserving than Kraft. In the 1960’s when the NFL was limping along and fighting a rival league Modell, an ex-advertising executive became principal owner of the Cleveland Browns. He promptly negotiated a multi-network and multi-year TV deal that put the NFL in the forefront of American Sports. He also got the ABC deal for MNF.

    Without those deals the NFL might not be what it is today. What is the HOF waiting for??

    well, he was the point person in keeping the NFL playing back in 2011 and keeping the lockout from erasing games or the season. he has been a key part of negotiating the HUGE television deals that the NFL is currently working under. he was one of the first owners to privately fund his own stadium. he has been a big voice in expanding the regular season to 17 and possibly 18 games.

    but I think that those type of things should be more the purview of League executives like commisioners. an owners main job is the success of his team. in the super bowl era, i cannot think of a more successful owner.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2026 6:09AM

    @Maywood said:
    Well, it’s a little over 4 days till the Super Bowl, is everyone ready to watch Bad Bunny?? 😂😂😂

    I find it hilarious that so many people are up in arms about this, literally the only people who should be complaining are the ones stupid enough to pay 7+ K for tickets to the game, and even those people should be smart enough to use the halftime to go eat, use the bathroom or do anything else but watch the halftime show.

    I can't say I've ever watched a half time show, regardless of the venue since I always enjoy the break to go get more beer, food, socialize or whatever else I can do to not watch a halftime show

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