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GTG: 1909-s Wheat Cent - REVEALED IN COMMENTS
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This cent is currently in an NGC Fattie and has a green CAC sticker. I firmly believe this wheat cent is undergraded so having you guys guess what the slab says would be a bit of trickery. I'm interested to see what you guys would grade it though before I lobby for a gold CAC sticker or send to PCGS for crossover.
The coin is solidly RED. I know the photos bring doubt, but that's my lighting struggles.
I have three sets of photos, it is the same coin.
---- UPDATE 5/7/26 ----
The previous GTG was a bust because my photos sucked. PCGS took better photos. Please GTG on what grade PCGS gave it. Oh, and BTW it did come back as S/Horizontal S!
New photos (rt-click, open in new tab to get full-size):
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the best photo is the first reverse and it's still too dark
Without getting into whether it's slabbed RD or not, I'd not be surprised to see this in a 63 or 64RD holder. Of those two, I lean to 64.
This appears to be the S over horizontal S variety, Looks 65 from photo 1
Looks like a 66 so I’ll go 65 based on the slab and sticker.
64 red
65 RB
Based.on these photos " No Sticker for You"
65 rb
64 rd
64RD
64RD
My guess like most others is 64rd, but that you think it should be 65 rd.
Sorry, I can't tell the grade with photos - but while you are at it you might want to consider getting the Variety Attribution of RPM 2 or (FS-1502) varietyvista.com/02a%20LC%20RPMs%20Vol%201/1909SRPM002.htm
Again, hard to see with your pics, but it may also be VDDR-001 - Nothing PCGS would attribute but you could take a look here to see if it is. You need to look at the T in United to see if it is doubled. varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20Doubled%20Dies%20Vol%201/1909SDDR001.htm
64RD
Thanks guys, I realize my images to too poor to do this effectively. I'll see if I can get some better images and start over.
Before I received the coin I thought it was S/S but in hand it most certainly is not.
All I know is that if it’s a 65rb then I wanna buy it. Lol
66
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64RD
64RD.
63 RB
Not sure how you are doing your comparison, but an overlay appears to precisely match up [given the pic quality] -- Not only that, the little glint of shiny metal immediately to the east lines up with the VV pic. That being said, if it is the variety then it is not major as that variety is a "dime -a-dozen" and really wouldn't add much [if any] value.
65RD
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In person, the the MM is nice and clean. I thought it might be S/S also, but when I got it I could easily see it's not.
Incidentally, the PCGS price guide shows the S/S prices are lower than non-S/S.
I'm going with 64RB. OP could be hoping for a 65RD with an $750 jump per PCGS coinfacts. JMO
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64RD
64 Rd
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64Red
---- UPDATE ----
Bump to re-start this GTG with all new guesses now that I have proper photos. Prior guesses can be revised or affirmed.
Edited to add: I don't think its necessary to debate the color. It's RD.
PCGS 65+RD
the reverse details are fantastic for a business strike
Looks RBRD to me. Choice uncirculated.
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Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.
66 R/B
I am glad I waited to guess. Your follow-up photos are terrific.
The new PCGS photos are terrible and make the coin look more AU than MS.
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66
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Sticking to my 64 RD
I will upgrade my guess from 65 to 66+.
Nice coin!
Edited to add: I don't think its necessary to debate the color. It's RD.
RD. Choice uncirculated. Nice piece but not gem because of obverse spots.
"Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
-Albert Einstein-
Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.
when is the reveal?
---- REVEAL----
OK, some mixed results. I think the poor Trueview quality and it appears that this coin is just not photogenic. Thanks for the feedback guys. I felt the clean shoulder, clean fields, and strong strike (esp on the reverse) would qualify this one for 66. Maybe PCGS got this one right at MS65RD:
looks better than a 65
A nice grade for the coin 🪙
So my original gut feeling was correct even with bad images lol. That coin is 66+ all day minus the black spots.
They count off for that you know.