The 1804 “over date” is the result of a mint employee using the wrong date logo (for the Eagle) on the Half Eagle die, punching the “180” into it before realizing the error. He then used the correct-sized logos to punch numerals over the mistake.
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I had made a thread for this Sweden 2 Ore on the World Coins forum.
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This is not a true overdate. It's probably just a defect/artifact of the date punch. The TPGs now commonly put the 1/0 in quotes, and lot descriptions say "so-called". As mrhalfdime (Steve Crain) said, this is perhaps the most overrated half dime variety because it does not exist!
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This coin had been sitting in the Whitman album since possibly the 40's
Found it after buying an old guys collection.
I did send it to our host and here are the results...
This coin had been sitting in the Whitman album since possibly the 40's
Found it after buying an old guys collection.
I did send it to our host and here are the results...
Wait a minute! So you think it was sitting in an album since the 40's and no one knew it was a 42/1? And the old guy didn't know it either? Although, on the other hand... If it had been in an album since the 40's, she would have been in MUCH better condition.
The reason I was asking if it was raw.... An acetone bath may have helped the obv. Thanks for the feedback.
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This is not a true overdate. It's probably just a defect/artifact of the date punch. The TPGs now commonly put the 1/0 in quotes, and lot descriptions say "so-called". As mrhalfdime (Steve Crain) said, this is perhaps the most overrated half dime variety because it does not exist!
Cool. Appreciate the insight. I simply view it as a variety.
I had this graded 3 months ago. The slab reads 1861 ‘1/0’. I paid for variety attribution and was fine with it whether it’s a true overdate or a variety. CAC just stickered it fwiw.
I’m not a “true overdate” collector by any means. Just offering up what I had to participate in the thread.
Picked this up for 30 cents among a few other dateless coins to treat for my album back in October at a flea market. Not as nice as the other ones in this thread, but it's mine!
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Are there any examples where other/more then just the right most digit being mis-struck. Maybe a 50 over a 49 or something like that? There may have been an example of this in the previous postings but I didn't spot it, so appologies if this question has already been answered..
Looks a little familiar. Mine doesn't have your story but the dealer I bought it from at TNA show in Houston didn't seem to want to part with it as he tried to talk me out of buying it. He was worried about the black stuff next to the date. Frankly I thought it had character. Lol Here is mine but no TV yet:
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Are there any examples where other/more then just the right most digit being mis-struck. Maybe a 50 over a 49 or something like that?
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I really need to shoot a decent image as the TV is oversaturated (IMO), but this is a 1820/19, one of two different types for this variety (both Curl and Square Base 2's).
I know there are more in other series, and IIRC, at least one that spans a century mark (1800/79 Cent)
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@LeeBone - Is that coin raw?
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And this one too if a 1 above another 1 counts as an overdate
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The 1804 “over date” is the result of a mint employee using the wrong date logo (for the Eagle) on the Half Eagle die, punching the “180” into it before realizing the error. He then used the correct-sized logos to punch numerals over the mistake.
1861/0

…..and a darksider
1901/891

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I had made a thread for this Sweden 2 Ore on the World Coins forum.
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The most well-known overdate in the IHC series:
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This is not a true overdate. It's probably just a defect/artifact of the date punch. The TPGs now commonly put the 1/0 in quotes, and lot descriptions say "so-called". As mrhalfdime (Steve Crain) said, this is perhaps the most overrated half dime variety because it does not exist!
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1849 V-4, 9 over close 6
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Colombia 20 Centavos, 1947/5. Many Colombian coins from the late 1940s are overdates, this one shows the under digit stronger than most.
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Nice contribution! The 42/41-D was a sleeper for a long time. The Philly one was way more dramatic.
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@redraider: I used to own that coin. Nice one Jonathan!
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1918/7
My current 1858 S-7 Overdate:
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This coin had been sitting in the Whitman album since possibly the 40's
Found it after buying an old guys collection.
I did send it to our host and here are the results...
Wait a minute! So you think it was sitting in an album since the 40's and no one knew it was a 42/1? And the old guy didn't know it either? Although, on the other hand... If it had been in an album since the 40's, she would have been in MUCH better condition.
The reason I was asking if it was raw.... An acetone bath may have helped the obv. Thanks for the feedback.
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This one is still with our host, after missing the reported variety the first time around.
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Cool. Appreciate the insight. I simply view it as a variety.
I had this graded 3 months ago. The slab reads 1861 ‘1/0’. I paid for variety attribution and was fine with it whether it’s a true overdate or a variety. CAC just stickered it fwiw.
I’m not a “true overdate” collector by any means. Just offering up what I had to participate in the thread.
This one is pretty obvious...


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Picked this up for 30 cents among a few other dateless coins to treat for my album back in October at a flea market. Not as nice as the other ones in this thread, but it's mine!
I'd like to apologize for the low quality photos, I tried my best
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Are there any examples where other/more then just the right most digit being mis-struck. Maybe a 50 over a 49 or something like that? There may have been an example of this in the previous postings but I didn't spot it, so appologies if this question has already been answered..
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Looks a little familiar. Mine doesn't have your story but the dealer I bought it from at TNA show in Houston didn't seem to want to part with it as he tried to talk me out of buying it. He was worried about the black stuff next to the date. Frankly I thought it had character. Lol Here is mine but no TV yet:
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I really need to shoot a decent image as the TV is oversaturated (IMO), but this is a 1820/19, one of two different types for this variety (both Curl and Square Base 2's).
I know there are more in other series, and IIRC, at least one that spans a century mark (1800/79 Cent)
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
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Nice Dave! Love that one!!
Here's mine
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“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Thanks for the repost. Now that I know what to look for I spotted it although I had to have to zoom in.
@drddm and @pursuitofliberty those are beautiful 15/2s! Someday I’ll pick one up but they’re tough to find nice.
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Thanks @GuzziSport, and that is certainly the case, especially when it comes to this date!
I bought my first 15/2 in 2009 (a PCGS XF45) and was looking for a nicer upgrade till I found my AU55 last year. Patience is definitely key!
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