@Higashiyama said:
It is slightly remarkable that this discussion of the meaning of “bond”has gone on for so long! 🤣 A T-bill of course is a different category of instrument (as defined by the Treasury) from a Treasury bond. However, from the perspective of finance and investing, a T-bill is simply a short term zero coupon bond.
Amazing, isnt it? Hopefully they will respect your knowledge more and finally accept truth and fact.
Next Wednesday we should get an interest rate cut, and the reaction to that will probably tell our future. The chart shows a nose-bleed top has formed.
@HalfDime said:
Next Wednesday we should get an interest rate cut, and the reaction to that will probably tell our future. The chart >shows a nose-bleed top has formed.
A T-bill of course is a different category of instrument (as defined by the Treasury) from a Treasury bond.
And when coho was touting bonds as his big investment, the natural inclination is to assume that he was talking about the traditional definition of bonds as defined by the Treasury - meaning either a 10 year or a 30 year bond.
Then, as now - the yield on a T-bill was higher than the yield of a 10 year Treasury and nobody with any common sense was buying the 30 year Treasury. Because of the difference in risk, buying a T-bill isn't the same thing as buying a T-bond, even if the effective yield is the same, but coho was buying "bonds". That's basically a misdirection at it's core.
When coho was touting "bonds" about a year ago he never mentioned the duration that he was buying and his implication was that buying a bond was the best choice of investments, especially compared to buying gold at that time. That was about $2,000 ago in terms of the POG. How did that work out?
He comes onto a precious metals website to sell "bonds" and then says he isn't here to disparage precious metals. I don't think that he has ever advised in favor of gold, and the reason is pretty obvious.
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@HalfDime said:
Next Wednesday we should get an interest rate cut, and the reaction to that will probably tell our future. The chart >shows a nose-bleed top has formed.
Back to the mid-$30's ??
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Maybe. But I'm not selling any of my relatively modest collection of silver items.
If silver goes down below $38 I might buy some more.
I own some stocks. Some pay dividends, some don’t. I own some property. I own some PMs. I have t-bills. I have some cash. Different returns for different reasons. To each his/her own. It works for me.
@Wingsrule said:
I own some stocks. Some pay dividends, some don’t. I own some property. I own some PMs. I have t-bills. I have some cash. Different returns for different reasons. To each his/her own. It works for me.
Diversify.
Absolutely, the hardest part for me is keeping it balanced. For example, with the recent run in gold my portfolio is now 13.75% in The Metal of Kings. Now IMO there is no finer thing on this planet earth than The Metal of Kings but having 13.75% of my portfolio tied up in something that doesn't pay dividends or interest isn't what most would call smart diversification. You put all your eggs in one basket, eventually you will be crushed. RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
A T-bill of course is a different category of instrument (as defined by the Treasury) from a Treasury bond.
And when coho was touting bonds as his big investment, the natural inclination is to assume that he was talking about the traditional definition of bonds as defined by the Treasury - meaning either a 10 year or a 30 year bond.
Actually you asked him and he said 5-7 years. Your "natural inclination" is a figment of your imagination.
Then, as now - the yield on a T-bill was higher than the yield of a 10 year Treasury and nobody with any common sense was buying the 30 year Treasury. Because of the difference in risk, buying a T-bill isn't the same thing as buying a T-bond, even if the effective yield is the same, but coho was buying "bonds". That's basically a misdirection at it's core.
Actually he did buy some 30 year zeros. Those have appreciated 15%. Maybe he'll be taking profits soon?
When coho was touting "bonds" about a year ago he never mentioned the duration that he was buying and his implication was that buying a bond was the best choice of investments, especially compared to buying gold at that time. That was about $2,000 ago in terms of the POG. How did that work out?
Actually he did mention, because you asked. However he never "implied" bonds vs gold. That's another figment of your imagination.
He comes onto a precious metals website to sell "bonds" and then says he isn't here to disparage precious metals. I don't think that he has ever advised in favor of gold, and the reason is pretty obvious.
He has never come onto this website to "sell" bonds. Another figment of your imagination.
And if you paid attention and let your imaginative biases get out of the way, he mentioned in 2016 that "Trump is gold's best friend', and discussed the break of the silver downtrend in 2019. He will never say you should "buy" or "sell" anything. However he will attempt to bring perspective and context to your sometimes/oftentimes disingenuous narratives.
A T-bill of course is a different category of instrument (as defined by the Treasury) from a Treasury bond.
And when coho was touting bonds as his big investment, the natural inclination is to assume that he was talking about the traditional definition of bonds as defined by the Treasury - meaning either a 10 year or a 30 year bond.
Actually you asked him and he said 5-7 years. Your "natural inclination" is a figment of your imagination.
Then, as now - the yield on a T-bill was higher than the yield of a 10 year Treasury and nobody with any common sense was buying the 30 year Treasury. Because of the difference in risk, buying a T-bill isn't the same thing as buying a T-bond, even if the effective yield is the same, but coho was buying "bonds". That's basically a misdirection at it's core.
Actually he did buy some 30 year zeros. Those have appreciated 15%. Maybe he'll be taking profits soon?
When coho was touting "bonds" about a year ago he never mentioned the duration that he was buying and his implication was that buying a bond was the best choice of investments, especially compared to buying gold at that time. That was about $2,000 ago in terms of the POG. How did that work out?
Actually he did mention, because you asked. However he never "implied" bonds vs gold. That's another figment of your imagination.
He comes onto a precious metals website to sell "bonds" and then says he isn't here to disparage precious metals. I don't think that he has ever advised in favor of gold, and the reason is pretty obvious.
He has never come onto this website to "sell" bonds. Another figment of your imagination.
And if you paid attention and let your imaginative biases get out of the way, he mentioned in 2016 that "Trump is gold's best friend', and discussed the break of the silver downtrend in 2019. He will never say you should "buy" or "sell" anything. However he will attempt to bring perspective and context to your sometimes/oftentimes disingenuous narratives.
Oh, and BTW--t-bills are bonds.
Talking about yourself in the third person is kind of weird.
A T-bill of course is a different category of instrument (as defined by the Treasury) from a Treasury bond.
And when coho was touting bonds as his big investment, the natural inclination is to assume that he was talking about the traditional definition of bonds as defined by the Treasury - meaning either a 10 year or a 30 year bond.
Actually you asked him and he said 5-7 years. Your "natural inclination" is a figment of your imagination.
Then, as now - the yield on a T-bill was higher than the yield of a 10 year Treasury and nobody with any common sense was buying the 30 year Treasury. Because of the difference in risk, buying a T-bill isn't the same thing as buying a T-bond, even if the effective yield is the same, but coho was buying "bonds". That's basically a misdirection at it's core.
Actually he did buy some 30 year zeros. Those have appreciated 15%. Maybe he'll be taking profits soon?
When coho was touting "bonds" about a year ago he never mentioned the duration that he was buying and his implication was that buying a bond was the best choice of investments, especially compared to buying gold at that time. That was about $2,000 ago in terms of the POG. How did that work out?
Actually he did mention, because you asked. However he never "implied" bonds vs gold. That's another figment of your imagination.
He comes onto a precious metals website to sell "bonds" and then says he isn't here to disparage precious metals. I don't think that he has ever advised in favor of gold, and the reason is pretty obvious.
He has never come onto this website to "sell" bonds. Another figment of your imagination.
And if you paid attention and let your imaginative biases get out of the way, he mentioned in 2016 that "Trump is gold's best friend', and discussed the break of the silver downtrend in 2019. He will never say you should "buy" or "sell" anything. However he will attempt to bring perspective and context to your sometimes/oftentimes disingenuous narratives.
Oh, and BTW--t-bills are bonds.
Talking about yourself in the third person is kind of weird.
Always focus on duration and not maturity length when buying bonds.
And even T-Bills and money market funds have risk....it's REINVESTMENT risk that the rates go lower. Nobody wanted 10, 20, or 30-year bonds 45 years ago when you could get 12% in a MMF but "only" 14-15% for long-duration bonds.
Of course, that was probably the best thing you could have done...locked up 15% guaranteed yields with no risk for decades.
@derryb said:
If we learned nothing else, this thread has shown > @HalfDime said:
The latest silver chart shows the nosebleed may be over, and we are back in an uptrend above the 50 day moving average.
shortages at LBMA and COMEX are resurfacing
now shanghai exchange is seeing shortages after hig demand and after shipping metal to London to keep LBMA from failing. SGE gold holding lowest in 10 years, silver holdings lowest in nine years.
THE SQUEEZE IS IN FULL BLOOM.
"A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."
@derryb said:
If we learned nothing else, this thread has shown > @HalfDime said:
The latest silver chart shows the nosebleed may be over, and we are back in an uptrend above the 50 day moving average.
shortages at LBMA and COMEX are resurfacing
now shanghai exchange is seeing shortages after hig demand and after shipping metal to London to keep LBMA from failing. SGE gold holding lowest in 10 years, silver holdings lowest in nine years.
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I thought there was only one bond, 007.
My silver never saw the gutter, it was bought at the right prices.
"A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."
I've seen new gutters made of copper or aluminum, never gold or silver. Home depot has plastic.
Amazing, isnt it? Hopefully they will respect your knowledge more and finally accept truth and fact.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Next Wednesday we should get an interest rate cut, and the reaction to that will probably tell our future. The chart shows a nose-bleed top has formed.
Back to the mid-$30's ??
@Higashyama said:
A T-bill of course is a different category of instrument (as defined by the Treasury) from a Treasury bond.
And when coho was touting bonds as his big investment, the natural inclination is to assume that he was talking about the traditional definition of bonds as defined by the Treasury - meaning either a 10 year or a 30 year bond.
Then, as now - the yield on a T-bill was higher than the yield of a 10 year Treasury and nobody with any common sense was buying the 30 year Treasury. Because of the difference in risk, buying a T-bill isn't the same thing as buying a T-bond, even if the effective yield is the same, but coho was buying "bonds". That's basically a misdirection at it's core.
When coho was touting "bonds" about a year ago he never mentioned the duration that he was buying and his implication was that buying a bond was the best choice of investments, especially compared to buying gold at that time. That was about $2,000 ago in terms of the POG. How did that work out?
He comes onto a precious metals website to sell "bonds" and then says he isn't here to disparage precious metals. I don't think that he has ever advised in favor of gold, and the reason is pretty obvious.
I knew it would happen.
.
Maybe. But I'm not selling any of my relatively modest collection of silver items.
If silver goes down below $38 I might buy some more.
.
I own some stocks. Some pay dividends, some don’t. I own some property. I own some PMs. I have t-bills. I have some cash. Different returns for different reasons. To each his/her own. It works for me.
Diversify.
Absolutely, the hardest part for me is keeping it balanced. For example, with the recent run in gold my portfolio is now 13.75% in The Metal of Kings. Now IMO there is no finer thing on this planet earth than The Metal of Kings but having 13.75% of my portfolio tied up in something that doesn't pay dividends or interest isn't what most would call smart diversification. You put all your eggs in one basket, eventually you will be crushed. RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
Actually you asked him and he said 5-7 years. Your "natural inclination" is a figment of your imagination.
Actually he did buy some 30 year zeros. Those have appreciated 15%. Maybe he'll be taking profits soon?
Actually he did mention, because you asked. However he never "implied" bonds vs gold. That's another figment of your imagination.
He has never come onto this website to "sell" bonds. Another figment of your imagination.
And if you paid attention and let your imaginative biases get out of the way, he mentioned in 2016 that "Trump is gold's best friend', and discussed the break of the silver downtrend in 2019. He will never say you should "buy" or "sell" anything. However he will attempt to bring perspective and context to your sometimes/oftentimes disingenuous narratives.
Oh, and BTW--t-bills are bonds.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Talking about yourself in the third person is kind of weird.
Philippians 4:4-7
Cuz I'm redneck now. 😉 And also a bit weird.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Always focus on duration and not maturity length when buying bonds.
And even T-Bills and money market funds have risk....it's REINVESTMENT risk that the rates go lower. Nobody wanted 10, 20, or 30-year bonds 45 years ago when you could get 12% in a MMF but "only" 14-15% for long-duration bonds.
Of course, that was probably the best thing you could have done...locked up 15% guaranteed yields with no risk for decades.
The latest silver chart shows the nosebleed may be over, and we are back in an uptrend above the 50 day moving average.
If we learned nothing else, this thread has shown > @HalfDime said:
shortages at LBMA and COMEX are resurfacing
"A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."
Now silver hit a double top at the recent high and fell off again. That top is major resistance for now.
The price of silver adjusted for inflation shows we can break $100.
now shanghai exchange is seeing shortages after hig demand and after shipping metal to London to keep LBMA from failing. SGE gold holding lowest in 10 years, silver holdings lowest in nine years.
THE SQUEEZE IS IN FULL BLOOM.
"A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."
The normal chart shows we are building momentum back higher after the nose-bleed sell-off.
with spot at 57.07 i'm betting paper on another nose-bleed, you can't escape them, but you can play them.
"A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."
So GLORIOUS
COPPER is gutter !
It keeps going higher, but may fall off the tracks soon.