All those guys you listed did have a rough go of it so yes McCarthy isn't the first rookie to struggle
I haven't seen many Vikings highlights since I dumped Red Zone
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I have said all along that the Vikings probably weren't going to go with Darnold if he was going to get long term contract offers.
When Daniel Jones signed here, I thought that was going to be our QB for this year. That's what I would have preferred.
As far as "keeping the faith" goes, he has occasionally shown some great talent. As I pointed out several Hall of Fame/Super Bowl winning QB's had horrible years to begin their careers. It's not unheard of for a QB to get better.
I am NOT predicting he's going to lead us to the promised land. He might be hurt AGAIN, that would be upsetting.
O'Connell is an idiot for not adjusting the offense away from all the downfield passes, I haven't seen a quick slant pass since he became head coach.
The offensive line was supposed to be better this year. Sunday's game was the first time the starters all played together, and 2 (left tackle and guard) got hurt. 5 sacks and lots of pressure on McCarthy. Yes, he does hold on to the ball for a long time, but part of that is slow developing pass routes.
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Regarding my Jefferson comment, so far he hasn't been your typical elite WR with an attitude so he might continue to be a team player and as long as he continues to get paid like one I'm sure that will help
You might be right about Jefferson being upset. I'm seeing Jefferson getting a lot of "targets" when he's well covered. None of our other receivers caught a pass Sunday.
I am sick to death of selfish players. I hope Jefferson doesn't turn out that way.
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As long as the Vikings don't pull the numbers game with him come contract time and mention his numbers compared to other big name guys it might be fine.
He is a 100 catch 1500 yard guy with a solid QB, this season McCarthy obviously isn't that guy but sure that could change, we will see
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Jefferson just signed a 4 year $140 million contract. If he starts causing problems, he can f#&k off!
Lastly, one thing I do know. The Vikings have no clue in how to "develop" a young quarterback, but neither do a lot of teams. Just look at how well Darnold and Jones are doing this year (and last year for Darnold) when they get some experience.
GO VIKINGS. GO J J MCCARTHY!
I forgot he signed that deal
That might help him from being disgruntled lol
Its not all guaranteed. Most of it is but the NFL could avoid a lot of issues if they would fully guarantee contracts like MLB does.
Either way if hes just getting 50 yards a game like he has been with McCarthy hes going to want to be traded at some point. His 2 best games of the year by far which are about a third of his receiving yards were with Wentz at QB
I've been waiting to see what else trickles out here about Aiyuk. There has to be more to that story.
Thats definitely a hot mess
Im guessing they part ways in one way or another
He refused to show up to meetings and that breached his contract so they voided a bunch of guaranteed money apparently.
All those guys you listed did have a rough go of it so yes McCarthy isn't the first rookie to struggle
I haven't seen many Vikings highlights since I dumped Red Zone
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I have said all along that the Vikings probably weren't going to go with Darnold if he was going to get long term contract offers.
When Daniel Jones signed here, I thought that was going to be our QB for this year. That's what I would have preferred.
As far as "keeping the faith" goes, he has occasionally shown some great talent. As I pointed out several Hall of Fame/Super Bowl winning QB's had horrible years to begin their careers. It's not unheard of for a QB to get better.
I am NOT predicting he's going to lead us to the promised land. He might be hurt AGAIN, that would be upsetting.
O'Connell is an idiot for not adjusting the offense away from all the downfield passes, I haven't seen a quick slant pass since he became head coach.
The offensive line was supposed to be better this year. Sunday's game was the first time the starters all played together, and 2 (left tackle and guard) got hurt. 5 sacks and lots of pressure on McCarthy. Yes, he does hold on to the ball for a long time, but part of that is slow developing pass routes.
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Regarding my Jefferson comment, so far he hasn't been your typical elite WR with an attitude so he might continue to be a team player and as long as he continues to get paid like one I'm sure that will help
You might be right about Jefferson being upset. I'm seeing Jefferson getting a lot of "targets" when he's well covered. None of our other receivers caught a pass Sunday.
I am sick to death of selfish players. I hope Jefferson doesn't turn out that way.
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As long as the Vikings don't pull the numbers game with him come contract time and mention his numbers compared to other big name guys it might be fine.
He is a 100 catch 1500 yard guy with a solid QB, this season McCarthy obviously isn't that guy but sure that could change, we will see
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Jefferson just signed a 4 year $140 million contract. If he starts causing problems, he can f#&k off!
Lastly, one thing I do know. The Vikings have no clue in how to "develop" a young quarterback, but neither do a lot of teams. Just look at how well Darnold and Jones are doing this year (and last year for Darnold) when they get some experience.
GO VIKINGS. GO J J MCCARTHY!
I forgot he signed that deal
That might help him from being disgruntled lol
Its not all guaranteed. Most of it is but the NFL could avoid a lot of issues if they would fully guarantee contracts like MLB does.
Either way if hes just getting 50 yards a game like he has been with McCarthy hes going to want to be traded at some point. His 2 best games of the year by far which are about a third of his receiving yards were with Wentz at QB
I've been waiting to see what else trickles out here about Aiyuk. There has to be more to that story.
Thats definitely a hot mess
Im guessing they part ways in one way or another
He refused to show up to meetings and that breached his contract so they voided a bunch of guaranteed money apparently.
He needs to fire his agent immediately if missing a few meetings while youre recovering from surgery is enough to void your guarantees.
@galaxy27 said:
i hate to interrupt this JJ McCarthy lovefest, but i just found out that the shawwow/slap chop/schticky guy is running for congress here in Texas
it's one of those nuggets of info you should probably just keep to yourself, but it's the sign of the apocalyse so vitally important that i just had to puke it out
you know i've heard really good things about guam
i wonder if i could enter the draftkings sportsbook there
"LoveFest"?
Might turn into a hatefest.
McCarthy out for next weeks game with a concussion.
Back up, Max Brosmer looked good in preseason, a lot of Vikings fans have wanted to see more of him.
If McCarthy can't stay healthy, the debate over his ability might be moot.
GO MAX!
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The Lions are down 17 to 7. They could get away with falling behind to the Giants but not to the Packers.
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For everyone complaining about the upcoming Super Bowl artist, the Detroit Lions present Jack White with special guest Eminem doing a song as he walks around the stage holding on to his package!!
Such is the music of the day.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said:
For everyone complaining about the upcoming Super Bowl artist, the Detroit Lions present Jack White with special guest Eminem doing a song as he walks around the stage holding on to his package!!
Such is the music of the day.
It really amazes me that anyone would complain about music for a halftime show, I just can't understand anyone being interested in it to begin with.
I can honestly said I enjoyed a million other things rather than being glued to my seat watching a halftime show
No need to jump to conclusions. I was at the kitchen table and walked into the TV room just in time to catch the aforementioned song.
Actually, I can’t envision anyone wasting a day watching the NFL, this is only the third part of a game I’ve seen this season. Like you and halftime shows, I can’t sit and watch an NFL game anymore.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
The Dallas defense is made of styrofoam. The Chiefs are running and passing right through it.
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@Darin said:
It’s always a blast watching the Lions coach turn down 3 points and then not make it on fourth down! 😂🥳
He is literally one of the biggest idiots coaching in the NFL
His incessant gadget plays to overcomplicate simple football is just moronic
We don't even need to talk about his going for it on 4th and not kicking FG's, that just speaks for itself
It’s sad because the Lions fans have years of frustration. Now they have the players, but they also have coach who is a fool. It’s like the time when the Eagles had the horses, but were stuck with Chip Kelly who played the hurry up offense almost 100% of the time. It worked a little while, but league figured his strategy out, and it turned into a disaster.
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Dallas took down Philly and Kansas City in a 4 day span. KC now has a 38% chance of making the playoffs. Dallas has Detroit and then an easier schedule and might run the table and make the playoffs. Crazy year
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
And the Chiefs go down, yet again losing the sort of game they would have won a few years ago. Looks like right now they aren’t only in danger of not making the playoffs, they may not even finish the season above .500.
On the bright side, next season’s schedule will be easier and they’ll have higher draft picks.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said:
And the Chiefs go down, yet again losing the sort of game they would have won a few years ago. Looks like right now they aren’t only in danger of not making the playoffs, they may not even finish the season above .500.
On the bright side, next season’s schedule will be easier and they’ll have higher draft picks.
And they will still have Taylor Swift.😆
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@Maywood said:
No need to jump to conclusions. I was at the kitchen table and walked into the TV room just in time to catch the aforementioned song.
Actually, I can’t envision anyone wasting a day watching the NFL, this is only the third part of a game I’ve seen this season. Like you and halftime shows, I can’t sit and watch an NFL game anymore.
So you’re just looking for something to gripe about. I didn’t catch the Eminem appearance or Post Malone but I heard they were good. I would expect that Eminem popping up in Detroit would be a fan slam-dunk.
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He refused to show up to meetings and that breached his contract so they voided a bunch of guaranteed money apparently.
He needs to fire his agent immediately if missing a few meetings while youre recovering from surgery is enough to void your guarantees.
Fire AJ Preller
"LoveFest"?
Might turn into a hatefest.
McCarthy out for next weeks game with a concussion.
Back up, Max Brosmer looked good in preseason, a lot of Vikings fans have wanted to see more of him.
If McCarthy can't stay healthy, the debate over his ability might be moot.
GO MAX!
Vikings doing McCarthy a favor with what is almost certainly a soft benching instead of just saying its his performance
All the team Drs and NFL Drs didnt see a concussion during the game but after a terrible game he now had one and sits out next week.
Fire AJ Preller
Is there anyway to watch the games today but opt out of the John Madden lovefest?
That would be great. 🥳
The Lions are down 17 to 7. They could get away with falling behind to the Giants but not to the Packers.
For everyone complaining about the upcoming Super Bowl artist, the Detroit Lions present Jack White with special guest Eminem doing a song as he walks around the stage holding on to his package!!
Such is the music of the day.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Lions clawing their way back, 17 - 14 now
Green Bay looks good
Detroit looks not great
It really amazes me that anyone would complain about music for a halftime show, I just can't understand anyone being interested in it to begin with.
I can honestly said I enjoyed a million other things rather than being glued to my seat watching a halftime show
No need to jump to conclusions. I was at the kitchen table and walked into the TV room just in time to catch the aforementioned song.
Actually, I can’t envision anyone wasting a day watching the NFL, this is only the third part of a game I’ve seen this season. Like you and halftime shows, I can’t sit and watch an NFL game anymore.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
It’s always a blast watching the Lions coach turn down 3 points and then not make it on fourth down! 😂🥳
We were just talking about that. If he’d have kicked the chip-shot it would be 31-24 and they’d be driving with a shot to tie.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
can you imagine playing blackjack with a drunk Campbell
dude would be doubling down on hard 8s & splitting 2s against aces every chance he got
The Dallas defense is made of styrofoam. The Chiefs are running and passing right through it.
He is literally one of the biggest idiots coaching in the NFL
His incessant gadget plays to overcomplicate simple football is just moronic
We don't even need to talk about his going for it on 4th and not kicking FG's, that just speaks for itself
It’s sad because the Lions fans have years of frustration. Now they have the players, but they also have coach who is a fool. It’s like the time when the Eagles had the horses, but were stuck with Chip Kelly who played the hurry up offense almost 100% of the time. It worked a little while, but league figured his strategy out, and it turned into a disaster.
Pickens & Lamb just destroying that KC secondary
Dallas took down Philly and Kansas City in a 4 day span. KC now has a 38% chance of making the playoffs. Dallas has Detroit and then an easier schedule and might run the table and make the playoffs. Crazy year
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
And the Chiefs go down, yet again losing the sort of game they would have won a few years ago. Looks like right now they aren’t only in danger of not making the playoffs, they may not even finish the season above .500.
On the bright side, next season’s schedule will be easier and they’ll have higher draft picks.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
And they will still have Taylor Swift.😆
KC will have to win out to make the playoffs, right?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Being a 3 win team from last year the Browns didn't get an easier schedule this year!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
It's also possible those weak teams on the schedule for next year may strengthen up their roster through trades.
So you’re just looking for something to gripe about. I didn’t catch the Eminem appearance or Post Malone but I heard they were good. I would expect that Eminem popping up in Detroit would be a fan slam-dunk.
I mean a Touchdown.