It has begun! The luck turned and the fans turned! We don't want "working-class-trust-your-gut-cause-the-numbers-are-for-mcdaniels-go-on-4th" Dan Campbell! Now we need "physics-degree-follow-the-analytics-and-stick-to-the-book" Dan Campbell!
truth of the matter is the guy has been making bone-head decisions from a statistical perspective his entire career as a HC and when the team covers up those mistakes we only see the success of these "trust your team decisions". But when the probabilities catch up we demand they return to the safety of the numbers.
He's always been a cowboy. Hrm. He's always been a Cowboy. That could work.
i think the most disturbing aspect of that game for me was the fact that Jerod Goff looked like he was going to be disemboweled every time he dropped back to pass. i was sitting there thinking to myself, "is Philly's D really this good?" haven't seen a QB look that rattled in a long time. an inordinate number of his passes weren't even sniffing the receiver because i think he was more concerned about actually living.
and i think that ties into Campbell being averse to punts and field goal attempts. i like the aggression, but not when it's crystal clear that your offense has no answers for the Eagles' defense. every time they went for it on 4th down, no part of me thought they'd convert. they had the look of a team that was discombobulated on offense all night long.
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I was high on Denver and low on KC before the season started, at this point I have no reason to believe that KC won't win their division based on the fact that I do not trust Bo Nix at all, I think he has regressed and he pretty much sucks and I will never trust the Chargers
KC 27
Denver 16
Looks like I was wrong
I owe Bo Nix an apology, he played well
Flags were irrelevant
The Chiefs just flat out sucked.
I get kind of tired of Mahomes saying he has to get better and stop making mistakes and then making a stupid throw when the game is tied that cost them at least a field goal. He’s just not a clutch player like he used to be. Not hungry like when he came up.
Another case of too many commercials and outside interests taking precedence over football. He’s rich and satisfied now, no more greatness in him.
Kind of like when Tiger Woods sold his soul to Nike.
Mahomes 1 rush 3 yrds , I saw that and said something is not right big time. Maybe he has a leg injury.
As for the Vikings - I'm bummed we lost but I'm more annoyed at how doom and gloom everyone is about McCarthy's performance. It's a franchise that has no patience for any form of a rebuild or the learning curve needed to progress a young QB. So many folks wanted a franchise QB (let's face it - they've only had one pan out) but have zero tolerance. I have no doubt that McCarthy will get better. I think he over-hypes himself up. Kill the "nine" persona and the face paint, sooner than later - which I'm sure he will. He also had about 5 key drops that doesn't help... For that matter, I would like to see Jefferson remove all of his diamonds and just go play ball.
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Great points. McCarthy is too "pumped up" and overthrows some passes and is trying to force the ball to Jefferson. McCarthy was pretty terrible for most of the game.
Then, he goes 6 for 8 on his last drive and we take the lead with under a minute remaining.
What does our brilliant head coach do? Kicks the ball to the Bears and they break a big return, giving them a big boost in confidence and they kick the game winning field goal with 4 seconds remaining.
For a first year QB, JJ looks lost, psyched up out of his mind and then occasionally looks like he has the potential to be a very good leader.
The Bears QB was the #1 overall pick and he looked pretty bad yesterday, except for his running.
I'm hoping McCarthy can "settle down" a little bit. I see his potential as well as his flaws. Those flaws can be fixed.......I hope.
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Last, it's nauseating to see all of these had the Vikings just lost one more game in the draft and Passtronaut not won a meaningless game three seasons ago, they would have drafted Drake Maye - enough already. This is one of about seven what-if scenarios at QB. That said, I'm still not over the Lewis Cine - Kyle Hamilton - Jameson Williamson draft/trade with Detroit.
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We're on the same page here too. I remember when several draft publications rated Kyle Hamilton as the best football player in the draft. The Vikes needed a cornerback and were unlikely to get Gardner. They didn't go after "Sauce" in a trade, didn't take Hamilton, yet moved around and took Cine, a Safety!
I'm not as upset about winning some meaningless games the year Cousins got hurt, but that (obviously) cost us a better draft position.
First we need to find people who know how to draft. KOC is a HORRIBLE in game coach. Get rid of him and promote Flores to Head coach before he goes somewhere else, and find an offensive coordinator who can put some plays in that utilize the receivers we have. O'Connell goes too deep all the time. I haven't seen ANY quick slants since he got here.
I'm also a little concerned with Jefferson becoming another in a long line of "hot dog" receivers. He failed to catch a couple of passes he should have caught in the last couple of games and seems to be too upset on the sidelines.
Yesterday's game might have been the poorest example of football I've seen in my almost 60 years of watching the Vikings, but they should have come out with a victory.
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I just heard that Mahomes cap hits for the next 2 seasons are $78MM and $74MM. I am too lazy to look it up for myself, but if true, that will make it exceedingly difficult to retool the next few seasons for KC.
you can only kick the can down the road for so long.
The doom and gloom with McCarthy is just that NFL fans are now seeing what college fans saw for years from him. If he can figure it out good for him, but the Vikings weapons are way too good for performances like that all the time and hes already cost them two games if not three. Bears should have been an easy win
@craig44 said:
I just heard that Mahomes cap hits for the next 2 seasons are $78MM and $74MM. I am too lazy to look it up for myself, but if true, that will make it exceedingly difficult to retool the next few seasons for KC.
you can only kick the can down the road for so long.
What will save them is Rice and Worthy are really solid and I think they are still going to be on their rookie deals through those hits
Not 100% sure and I don't care enough to look it up either lol
@craig44 said:
I just heard that Mahomes cap hits for the next 2 seasons are $78MM and $74MM. I am too lazy to look it up for myself, but if true, that will make it exceedingly difficult to retool the next few seasons for KC.
you can only kick the can down the road for so long.
What will save them is Rice and Worthy are really solid and I think they are still going to be on their rookie deals through those hits
Not 100% sure and I don't care enough to look it up either lol
possible. and KC GM is pretty creative, but there comes a limit to restructuring.
I am not sold on Rice. some would have us believe he is an elite #1 WR. I am just not seeing it. averaging about 60 ypg for his career. no elite speed like worthy.
I know he is supposed to be KC's savior but dont know, I just am not seeing it with him.
@craig44 said:
I just heard that Mahomes cap hits for the next 2 seasons are $78MM and $74MM. I am too lazy to look it up for myself, but if true, that will make it exceedingly difficult to retool the next few seasons for KC.
you can only kick the can down the road for so long.
What will save them is Rice and Worthy are really solid and I think they are still going to be on their rookie deals through those hits
Not 100% sure and I don't care enough to look it up either lol
Worthy is a little scary. His strength is his speed and ankle injury might take him the year to get that back taking the top off the defense. Rice you just gotta worry if he can stop getting arrested lol
I dont really like the Chiefs chances this year of making the playoffs with what they have left
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It has begun! The luck turned and the fans turned! We don't want "working-class-trust-your-gut-cause-the-numbers-are-for-mcdaniels-go-on-4th" Dan Campbell! Now we need "physics-degree-follow-the-analytics-and-stick-to-the-book" Dan Campbell!
truth of the matter is the guy has been making bone-head decisions from a statistical perspective his entire career as a HC and when the team covers up those mistakes we only see the success of these "trust your team decisions". But when the probabilities catch up we demand they return to the safety of the numbers.
He's always been a cowboy. Hrm. He's always been a Cowboy. That could work.
I can't stand him as a HC, the guy is a buffoon, that Lions team doesn't deserve him
i think the most disturbing aspect of that game for me was the fact that Jerod Goff looked like he was going to be disemboweled every time he dropped back to pass. i was sitting there thinking to myself, "is Philly's D really this good?" haven't seen a QB look that rattled in a long time. an inordinate number of his passes weren't even sniffing the receiver because i think he was more concerned about actually living.
and i think that ties into Campbell being averse to punts and field goal attempts. i like the aggression, but not when it's crystal clear that your offense has no answers for the Eagles' defense. every time they went for it on 4th down, no part of me thought they'd convert. they had the look of a team that was discombobulated on offense all night long.
Mahomes 1 rush 3 yrds , I saw that and said something is not right big time. Maybe he has a leg injury.
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Great points. McCarthy is too "pumped up" and overthrows some passes and is trying to force the ball to Jefferson. McCarthy was pretty terrible for most of the game.
Then, he goes 6 for 8 on his last drive and we take the lead with under a minute remaining.
What does our brilliant head coach do? Kicks the ball to the Bears and they break a big return, giving them a big boost in confidence and they kick the game winning field goal with 4 seconds remaining.
For a first year QB, JJ looks lost, psyched up out of his mind and then occasionally looks like he has the potential to be a very good leader.
The Bears QB was the #1 overall pick and he looked pretty bad yesterday, except for his running.
I'm hoping McCarthy can "settle down" a little bit. I see his potential as well as his flaws. Those flaws can be fixed.......I hope.
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We're on the same page here too. I remember when several draft publications rated Kyle Hamilton as the best football player in the draft. The Vikes needed a cornerback and were unlikely to get Gardner. They didn't go after "Sauce" in a trade, didn't take Hamilton, yet moved around and took Cine, a Safety!
I'm not as upset about winning some meaningless games the year Cousins got hurt, but that (obviously) cost us a better draft position.
First we need to find people who know how to draft. KOC is a HORRIBLE in game coach. Get rid of him and promote Flores to Head coach before he goes somewhere else, and find an offensive coordinator who can put some plays in that utilize the receivers we have. O'Connell goes too deep all the time. I haven't seen ANY quick slants since he got here.
I'm also a little concerned with Jefferson becoming another in a long line of "hot dog" receivers. He failed to catch a couple of passes he should have caught in the last couple of games and seems to be too upset on the sidelines.
Yesterday's game might have been the poorest example of football I've seen in my almost 60 years of watching the Vikings, but they should have come out with a victory.
I just heard that Mahomes cap hits for the next 2 seasons are $78MM and $74MM. I am too lazy to look it up for myself, but if true, that will make it exceedingly difficult to retool the next few seasons for KC.
you can only kick the can down the road for so long.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
The doom and gloom with McCarthy is just that NFL fans are now seeing what college fans saw for years from him. If he can figure it out good for him, but the Vikings weapons are way too good for performances like that all the time and hes already cost them two games if not three. Bears should have been an easy win
Fire AJ Preller
What will save them is Rice and Worthy are really solid and I think they are still going to be on their rookie deals through those hits
Not 100% sure and I don't care enough to look it up either lol
possible. and KC GM is pretty creative, but there comes a limit to restructuring.
I am not sold on Rice. some would have us believe he is an elite #1 WR. I am just not seeing it. averaging about 60 ypg for his career. no elite speed like worthy.
I know he is supposed to be KC's savior but dont know, I just am not seeing it with him.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Worthy is a little scary. His strength is his speed and ankle injury might take him the year to get that back taking the top off the defense. Rice you just gotta worry if he can stop getting arrested lol
I dont really like the Chiefs chances this year of making the playoffs with what they have left
Fire AJ Preller