1867 shield nickel - please help me to determine the grade of this coin

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Göttinger
Göttinger Posts: 230 ✭✭✭
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Dear US coin collectors and enthusiasts,
I found another US coin in a mixed collection I purchased recently. In my eyes it does not look too bad - wich grade would you suggest for this coin and do you think it would get a straight grade or are the scratches on the shield too much of a damage?
Thank you in advance and best regards,
Göttinger

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  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The photos are too overexposed to be useful for grading.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • DRUNNER
    DRUNNER Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2025 2:29PM
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    Very nice coin . . . with an apparent AU55-58 look. As in many cases, it is hard to determine luster or hairlines from a picture. To me, this would be a perfect 'album' coin . . . textbook "Dansco 7070". Not going to encourage you to submit (not cost effective), although I HAVE done so with similar coins just for fun.

    Great piece . . . . thanks!

    Drunner
    (edited for spelling)

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 21, 2025 5:00PM
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    those marks are making me think i shouldn't comment. they may be acceptable

    i do want to note this is the "No Rays" variety and you miht edit this into the thread title (ooops. looks like with rays is worth more)

    it's true the lighting is harsh and makes it hard to grade.

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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 21, 2025 4:57PM
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    it is possibly a die variety with a repunched date (rpd) and who knows (hopefully someone here) what else

    here is the list pcgs recognizes and i'm not sure if any bring an added premium

    Die Varieties

    1867 5C No Rays DDO FS-1101
1867/1867 5C No Rays RPD FS-1301
1867 5C No Rays DDO & RPD FS-1102
1867 5C No Rays RPD FS-1302
1867 5C No Rays RPD FS-1303
1867 5C No Rays RPD FS-1304
1867 5C No Rays RPD FS-1305
1867 5C No Rays RPD FS-1306
1867 5C No Rays MPD FS-1309
1867 5C No Rays RPD FS-1307
1867 5C No Rays RPD FS-1308
1867 5C No Rays MPD FS-1310
1867 5C No Rays Clashed Obv. Die
1867 5C No Rays O/R Die Clash FS-1402/1901
1867 5C F-1 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-2 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-3 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-4 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-5 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-6 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-7 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-8 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-9 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-10 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-11 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-12 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-13 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-14 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-15 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-16 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-17 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-18 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-19 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-20 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-21 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-22 TPD No Rays
1867 5C F-23 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-24 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-25 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-26 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-27 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-28 RPD & DDR No Rays
1867 5C F-29 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-30 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-31 TPD No Rays
1867 5C F-32 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-33 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-34 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-35 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-36 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-37 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-38 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-39 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-40 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-41 RPD & DDO No Rays
1867 5C F-42 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-43 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-44 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-45 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-46 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-47 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-48 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-49 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-50 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-51 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-52 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-53 RPD No Rays
1867 5C F-54 RPD & DDO No Rays
1867 5C F-55 DDO No Rays
1867 5C F-56 DDO No Rays
1867 5C F-57 DDO No Rays
1867 5C F-58 DDO No Rays
1867 5C F-59 DDO No Rays
1867 5C F-60 DDR No Rays
1867 5C F-61 DDR No Rays
1867 5C Missing Leaf, No Rays, F-62
1867 5C Missing Leaf, No Rays, F-63
1867 5C Missing Leaf, No Rays, F-64
1867 5C Missing Leaf, No Rays, F-65
1867 5C Missing Leaf, No Rays, F-66
1867 5C Missing Leaf, No Rays, F-67
1867 5C Missing Leaf, No Rays, F-68
1867 5C Missing Leaf, No Rays
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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    here is an auction for a problem-free AU55 (not saying it is, just being conservative) in a PCGS holder

    https://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/item/1867-5c-no-rays/3794/-8751454820414867599

    it's listed as $120

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2025 5:44AM
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    The coin looks (Edited) AU to me and I don’t think the shield marks would preclude a straight grade. However, if the coin actually has an unusual pinkish hue, as it appears on my screen, that could increase the odds of a detail grade.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • seatedlib3991
    seatedlib3991 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I don't have any useful advice and know little about these coins but i do like the die crack at 3:00. Is the coin really pink though? James

  • rec78
    rec78 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    XF45 because of wear on the shield and the rim ding at 4 o' clock on the obv.

    image
  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 35,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    As previously stated, the picture is overexposed which “burns out” some of the marks and could be hiding a cleaning. From what I say, I would say at least AU-50. It could go as high as AU-55.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • TallahasseeCoinClub
    TallahasseeCoinClub Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭
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    EF details and a nice date logotype variety.

    Official PCGS account of:

    www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 1, 2025 9:07PM
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    XF details. Looks dullish - cleaned?

    Investor
  • Göttinger
    Göttinger Posts: 230 ✭✭✭
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    Sorry for my late response.
    Thank you all for your helpful answers and suggestions!
    The coin isn't really purple, it's just the terrible lighting at my desk. I'll post some better poctures tommorrow.
    Best regards and a nice evening to you all,
    Göttinger

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