Ole Miss and State are both baseball schools at the end of the day and Lane has done an amazing job.
Johnny Vaught was one of best College Football Coaches ever,...
If he were still with us, you could be the one to tell him Ole Miss is a Baseball school.
For baseball theyev been consistently making the playoffs since about the mid 90s. and once Bianco took over they have multiple super regional appearances and multiple trips to Omaha including a National Title
The football team has had 4 very good years with Lane and had its bright spots but the baseball team has been their most successful the last 25 or so years
They had almost 17k people at the Ole Miss State game 2 years ago which was crazy for their stadium that wasnt being played in a pro stadium
Vaught was head coach at Ole Miss for 23 years and compiled a record of 190-61-12. And while in that position, he was named SEC coach of the year 6 times, won 5 Sugar Bowl games and shared claimed National Championships in 1959, 1960 and 1962. He made the Ole Miss football program a National power. He is a legend.
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Vaught was head coach at Ole Miss for 23 years and compiled a record of 190-61-12. And while in that position, he was named SEC coach of the year 6 times, won 5 Sugar Bowl games and shared claimed National Championships in 1959, 1960 and 1962. He made the Ole Miss football program a National power. He is a legend.
Dont get me wrong Im not trying to degrade him by any means. They had some coaches after him that every now and then had success but Luke kinda ran it into the ground before Kiffin came and put them back on the map consistently while hes been there
I would like to see Lane stay there and do think they are trying to make that happen with his ability to recruit. Its a lot more interesting with him there than taking a bunch of players and having the LSU or FL resources to make super teams
I care about Michigan in the sense that theyre doing the right thing to try and stop that PE deal the B!G has been pushing. That deal would help them for a couple years but ultimately cost them money and probably cause money losing sports like wrestling to get discontinued at some point from lost revenue over the course of the deal.
I hope they hold their ground and are successful in doing so
But, but, but everyone knows the BEST teams are in the SEC. It’s a different landscape in NCAA today than it was 5 years ago and I’d cite three reasons: the transfer portal, NIL money and the retirement of Nick Saban.
Interesting, after a very storied Head Coaching career Saban’s last game was the loss to Michigan. Part of me thinks he saw the writing on the wall and decided to walk away. My hunch is that he sleeps better now.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
“Miami needs to continue to win the football games they have in front of them, and good things will happen”
That's a quote from Hunter Yurachek, who took over this week as chair of the selection committee. That doesn't sound like the sort of thing I'd expect to hear the CFP Chairman say.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said:
“Miami needs to continue to win the football games they have in front of them, and good things will happen”
That's a quote from Hunter Yurachek, who took over this week as chair of the selection committee. That doesn't sound like the sort of thing I'd expect to hear the CFP Chairman say.
You're misinterpreting this.
This is news because he was getting hammered on some of the positioning. The quote you're referencing was about how Miami needs to worry about Miami and not worry about ND. It's not even correctly quoted. Here's the quote, in context. All this whining and lying makes B1G fans seem like absolute babies. It's a real bad look.
What does Miami have to do to get to that point where it could potentially be in a comparable tier with Notre Dame?
Yurachek: First and foremost, Miami needs to continue to win the football games they have in front of them, and then things will happen. There's still a lot of football to be played with two more weeks in the regular season and then the championship week.
You look at the teams that are between Notre Dame and Miami right now, you've got Alabama that's got a game against Auburn coming up and then potentially an SEC Championship game. BYU has a couple of games remaining and then potentially a Big 12 Championship game. Then you've got Utah with a couple games.
So I would say Miami needs to continue to win, and then hope for some things ahead of them fall their way.
It still strikes me as an odd thing for him to be saying. If both Notre Dame and Miami win out I fail to see how their respective ranks should change.
These are the sort of things about “ranking” which seem ridiculous about the playoffs. Talk of good wins and bad losses only confuse things. If the CFP wants Miami ahead of Notre Dame because they beat them then Alabama should be ahead of Georgia.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
i think the HC of my new favorite team is going to dive into the swamp. i may have to choose another one, lol. nah, i'm sticking with the Rebels. this is going to turn out crappy for them, i'm afraid. good team, gonna make the postseason, but their leader is going to bolt before they ever play a snap in the playoffs. just my opinion. if Kiffin truly wanted to stick and stay, he already would have signed an extension because Ole Miss agreed to match any offer. i'm starting to feel sorry for the school and its fanbase, because the focus should be on the team and what lies ahead, but instead it's turning into the Lane Kiffin tour. dude loves the limelight.
@galaxy27 said:
i think the HC of my new favorite team is going to dive into the swamp. i may have to choose another one, lol. nah, i'm sticking with the Rebels. this is going to turn out crappy for them, i'm afraid. good team, gonna make the postseason, but their leader is going to bolt before they ever play a snap in the playoffs. just my opinion. if Kiffin truly wanted to stick and stay, he already would have signed an extension because Ole Miss agreed to match any offer. i'm starting to feel sorry for the school and its fanbase, because the focus should be on the team and what lies ahead, but instead it's turning into the Lane Kiffin tour. dude loves the limelight.
@Maywood said:
It still strikes me as an odd thing for him to be saying. If both Notre Dame and Miami win out I fail to see how their respective ranks should change.
He was answering a question and it's the most "dad answer" ever. Worry about yourself and things will take care of themselves. You might be reading too much into these types of remarks... or maybe I'm wrong... but I think the CFP cares about money and that means they care about keeping the conferences happy, and certain schools happy so that's the bias if it exists. It could also be a perfectly legitimate and above board organization just like FIFA or... the IOC... wink wink.
These are the sort of things about “ranking” which seem ridiculous about the playoffs. Talk of good wins and bad losses only confuse things. If the CFP wants Miami ahead of Notre Dame because they beat them then Alabama should be ahead of Georgia.
Perhaps then someday we will have the ability to see the difference in the quality of a win or loss. Perhaps in the year... I don't know... 2505.
@galaxy27 said:
i think the HC of my new favorite team is going to dive into the swamp. i may have to choose another one, lol. nah, i'm sticking with the Rebels. this is going to turn out crappy for them, i'm afraid. good team, gonna make the postseason, but their leader is going to bolt before they ever play a snap in the playoffs. just my opinion. if Kiffin truly wanted to stick and stay, he already would have signed an extension because Ole Miss agreed to match any offer. i'm starting to feel sorry for the school and its fanbase, because the focus should be on the team and what lies ahead, but instead it's turning into the Lane Kiffin tour. dude loves the limelight.
i say he's the next head coach of Florida
I think LSU is a little more likely than FL but both are great jobs. Yea the huge house a former FL coach used to own just got taken off the market where now we have not only flight travel trackers for college but real estate as well
Hes playing this perfectly right now. He knows hes the number one target for big time programs and his contract is going to be massive
Theres some growing stuff that he will stay at Ole Miss but not sure about that. It would certainly be a mistake for Ole Miss to fire him before the playoffs and I think he will finish the season there either way. Recruits will certainly start flipping to his new school if he does leave and players will hit the transfer portal to follow for sure. It would be weird though if Ole Miss got rid of him and ruined their playoff hopes
Yes, now if only Tennessee and Texas weren't clogging the middle 10, teams from other conferences might be able to position themselves in the event of some up front losses. I for one am anxious to see what the post season head-head matches provide us with.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Yes, now if only Tennessee and Texas weren't clogging the middle 10, teams from other conferences might be able to position themselves in the event of some up front losses. I for one am anxious to see what the post season head-head matches provide us with.
Yes, and Illinois should be ahead of both Missouri and Tennessee, because Illinois has a win over a ranked team.
@Basebal21 said:
I care about Michigan in the sense that theyre doing the right thing to try and stop that PE deal the B!G has been pushing. That deal would help them for a couple years but ultimately cost them money and probably cause money losing sports like wrestling to get discontinued at some point from lost revenue over the course of the deal.
I hope they hold their ground and are successful in doing so
The Senate, in part inspired by the equity investment you mentioned, is looking into the tax-exempt status of university athletic programs.
@coolstanley said:
These are all Tennessee wins. Quite the gauntlet.
Syracuse
East Tennessee state
UAB
Mississippi state
Arkansas
Kentucky
New Mexico state
Illinois has a win over #15 USC.
Am I wrong by saying that Tennessee is more of a revenue bringer than Illinois so they are giving Tennessee a higher ranking?
Does that stuff matter with these teams?
W#hat he didnt mention is that Illinois lost to Indiana by over 50 points and werent competitive against OSU or Washington.
I didnt mention it because according to ESPN the Indiana blowout dont matter. ESPN senior writer and national college football insider Heather Dinich stated a few weeks ago the CFP committee members dont consider a 3 td win or a 50 point win any different. ''The team that won already made their point after so many touchdowns'' was her words. Makes sense because a team that's losing by a lot will tank the game. Illinois bounced back the next week by beating USC.
@coolstanley said:
These are all Tennessee wins. Quite the gauntlet.
Syracuse
East Tennessee state
UAB
Mississippi state
Arkansas
Kentucky
New Mexico state
Illinois has a win over #15 USC.
Am I wrong by saying that Tennessee is more of a revenue bringer than Illinois so they are giving Tennessee a higher ranking?
Does that stuff matter with these teams?
W#hat he didnt mention is that Illinois lost to Indiana by over 50 points and werent competitive against OSU or Washington.
I didnt mention it because according to ESPN the Indiana blowout dont matter. ESPN senior writer and national college football insider Heather Dinich stated a few weeks ago the CFP committee members dont consider a 3 td win or a 50 point win any different. ''The team that won already made their point after so many touchdowns'' was her words. Makes sense because a team that's losing by a lot will tank the game. Illinois bounced back the next week by beating USC.
Losing by 50 is insanely hard to do and does matter.
Not being competitive against the two playoff teams someone plays does matter
Not being competitive in 3 of 7 conference games and 3 of the other 4 were Perdue, Rutgers and Maryland matters.
I would hardly call that reporter an insider and they are known to make stuff up. She might be right in terms of they probably just forgot and havent paid a ton of attention.
I dont really care that much since theyre in the 20s and they wont get in the playoffs, but if and its a big if they were going to be ranked it should be 24/25 not 21. At the very least Tulane should be ahead of them
@Basebal21 said:
I care about Michigan in the sense that theyre doing the right thing to try and stop that PE deal the B!G has been pushing. That deal would help them for a couple years but ultimately cost them money and probably cause money losing sports like wrestling to get discontinued at some point from lost revenue over the course of the deal.
I hope they hold their ground and are successful in doing so
The Senate, in part inspired by the equity investment you mentioned, is looking into the tax-exempt status of university athletic programs.
Im not a fan of them getting involved as congress is responsible for Title 9 that doesnt take into account that theres no womens version of football and that baseball rosters are bigger than softball rosters etc. In this case though I do agree with taking a look at it.
If state schools want to be selling off equity than they should lose public funding and need to pay taxes otherwise the tax payers are just funding a private investment
Tulane dominated North Western start to finish, beat Duke, and beat ECU.
Duke is a common win for both.
Northwestern will be since Illinois gets to end the season with Wisconsin and North Western, lucky them. If were having just for fun games let Tulane play Illinois and see what happens
@coolstanley said:
Still waiting to hear who did Tennessee beat?
Illinois has a better SOR so they could be ranked ahead of Tennessee. I think the main issue is that no one really cares. Tennessee had quality losses vs. Illinois victory over USC, so you know that might be part of the argument there - really who cares about Illinois and Tennessee. Collect Football Super-fans?
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Its not really that much of a change. First string wasnt that good and theyve been a running team with nast lines on both sides.
Theyre in play for that game especially with Mateer still not looking great for Oklahoma after the injury. Simpson really blew that game for Bama
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Thanks for clarifying, I read “we” to be SEC as the way it was worded wasn’t entirely clear.
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@Basebal21 wrote:
Ole Miss and State are both baseball schools at the end of the day and Lane has done an amazing job.
Johnny Vaught was one of best College Football Coaches ever,...
If he were still with us, you could be the one to tell him Ole Miss is a Baseball school.
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Yes because Texas A@M schedule is quite the gauntlet
UTSA
Utah State
Auburn 4-6
Mississippi state 5-6
Florida 3-7
Arkansas 2-8
LSU 6-4
South Carolina 3-7
Samford
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For baseball theyev been consistently making the playoffs since about the mid 90s. and once Bianco took over they have multiple super regional appearances and multiple trips to Omaha including a National Title
The football team has had 4 very good years with Lane and had its bright spots but the baseball team has been their most successful the last 25 or so years
They had almost 17k people at the Ole Miss State game 2 years ago which was crazy for their stadium that wasnt being played in a pro stadium
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Theres multiple teams on that list that are better than every team I named
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@baseball21
Just a brief overview:
Vaught was head coach at Ole Miss for 23 years and compiled a record of 190-61-12. And while in that position, he was named SEC coach of the year 6 times, won 5 Sugar Bowl games and shared claimed National Championships in 1959, 1960 and 1962. He made the Ole Miss football program a National power. He is a legend.
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I don't know why Wisconsin has to be first...
Dont get me wrong Im not trying to degrade him by any means. They had some coaches after him that every now and then had success but Luke kinda ran it into the ground before Kiffin came and put them back on the map consistently while hes been there
I would like to see Lane stay there and do think they are trying to make that happen with his ability to recruit. Its a lot more interesting with him there than taking a bunch of players and having the LSU or FL resources to make super teams
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They played them first. They arent the worst team in that group. UCLA and Perdue are worse, Theyre about the same level as PSU this year
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I definitely do!
Gotta celebrate becoming the first ever team to have a 0:5 turnover ratio and still win!
I care about Michigan in the sense that theyre doing the right thing to try and stop that PE deal the B!G has been pushing. That deal would help them for a couple years but ultimately cost them money and probably cause money losing sports like wrestling to get discontinued at some point from lost revenue over the course of the deal.
I hope they hold their ground and are successful in doing so
Fire AJ Preller
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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But, but, but everyone knows the BEST teams are in the SEC. It’s a different landscape in NCAA today than it was 5 years ago and I’d cite three reasons: the transfer portal, NIL money and the retirement of Nick Saban.
Interesting, after a very storied Head Coaching career Saban’s last game was the loss to Michigan. Part of me thinks he saw the writing on the wall and decided to walk away. My hunch is that he sleeps better now.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
“Miami needs to continue to win the football games they have in front of them, and good things will happen”
That's a quote from Hunter Yurachek, who took over this week as chair of the selection committee. That doesn't sound like the sort of thing I'd expect to hear the CFP Chairman say.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
You're misinterpreting this.
This is news because he was getting hammered on some of the positioning. The quote you're referencing was about how Miami needs to worry about Miami and not worry about ND. It's not even correctly quoted. Here's the quote, in context. All this whining and lying makes B1G fans seem like absolute babies. It's a real bad look.
It still strikes me as an odd thing for him to be saying. If both Notre Dame and Miami win out I fail to see how their respective ranks should change.
These are the sort of things about “ranking” which seem ridiculous about the playoffs. Talk of good wins and bad losses only confuse things. If the CFP wants Miami ahead of Notre Dame because they beat them then Alabama should be ahead of Georgia.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
i think the HC of my new favorite team is going to dive into the swamp. i may have to choose another one, lol. nah, i'm sticking with the Rebels. this is going to turn out crappy for them, i'm afraid. good team, gonna make the postseason, but their leader is going to bolt before they ever play a snap in the playoffs. just my opinion. if Kiffin truly wanted to stick and stay, he already would have signed an extension because Ole Miss agreed to match any offer. i'm starting to feel sorry for the school and its fanbase, because the focus should be on the team and what lies ahead, but instead it's turning into the Lane Kiffin tour. dude loves the limelight.
i say he's the next head coach of Florida
Ole Miss putting the pressure on was a bold move.
He was answering a question and it's the most "dad answer" ever. Worry about yourself and things will take care of themselves. You might be reading too much into these types of remarks... or maybe I'm wrong... but I think the CFP cares about money and that means they care about keeping the conferences happy, and certain schools happy so that's the bias if it exists. It could also be a perfectly legitimate and above board organization just like FIFA or... the IOC... wink wink.
Perhaps then someday we will have the ability to see the difference in the quality of a win or loss. Perhaps in the year... I don't know... 2505.
I think LSU is a little more likely than FL but both are great jobs. Yea the huge house a former FL coach used to own just got taken off the market where now we have not only flight travel trackers for college but real estate as well
Hes playing this perfectly right now. He knows hes the number one target for big time programs and his contract is going to be massive
Theres some growing stuff that he will stay at Ole Miss but not sure about that. It would certainly be a mistake for Ole Miss to fire him before the playoffs and I think he will finish the season there either way. Recruits will certainly start flipping to his new school if he does leave and players will hit the transfer portal to follow for sure. It would be weird though if Ole Miss got rid of him and ruined their playoff hopes
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Good to see Illinois move back into the top 25 which people predicted.
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@coolstanley said: Good to see Illinois move
Yes, now if only Tennessee and Texas weren't clogging the middle 10, teams from other conferences might be able to position themselves in the event of some up front losses. I for one am anxious to see what the post season head-head matches provide us with.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Yes, and Illinois should be ahead of both Missouri and Tennessee, because Illinois has a win over a ranked team.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
These are all Tennessee wins. Quite the gauntlet.
Syracuse
East Tennessee state
UAB
Mississippi state
Arkansas
Kentucky
New Mexico state
Illinois has a win over #15 USC.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
Am I wrong by saying that Tennessee is more of a revenue bringer than Illinois so they are giving Tennessee a higher ranking?
Does that stuff matter with these teams?
It shouldn't matter, but most college football fans live in the midwest.
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But football is right there with religion in the South
That's what I'm told anyways
W#hat he didnt mention is that Illinois lost to Indiana by over 50 points and werent competitive against OSU or Washington.
Fire AJ Preller
The Senate, in part inspired by the equity investment you mentioned, is looking into the tax-exempt status of university athletic programs.
Sounded like the brakes got pumped hard in that deal yesterday. Whew. #bringbackwarren
I didnt mention it because according to ESPN the Indiana blowout dont matter. ESPN senior writer and national college football insider Heather Dinich stated a few weeks ago the CFP committee members dont consider a 3 td win or a 50 point win any different. ''The team that won already made their point after so many touchdowns'' was her words. Makes sense because a team that's losing by a lot will tank the game. Illinois bounced back the next week by beating USC.
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Paw. When I grow up can I be a CFP expert too?
Losing by 50 is insanely hard to do and does matter.
Not being competitive against the two playoff teams someone plays does matter
Not being competitive in 3 of 7 conference games and 3 of the other 4 were Perdue, Rutgers and Maryland matters.
I would hardly call that reporter an insider and they are known to make stuff up. She might be right in terms of they probably just forgot and havent paid a ton of attention.
I dont really care that much since theyre in the 20s and they wont get in the playoffs, but if and its a big if they were going to be ranked it should be 24/25 not 21. At the very least Tulane should be ahead of them
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Im not a fan of them getting involved as congress is responsible for Title 9 that doesnt take into account that theres no womens version of football and that baseball rosters are bigger than softball rosters etc. In this case though I do agree with taking a look at it.
If state schools want to be selling off equity than they should lose public funding and need to pay taxes otherwise the tax payers are just funding a private investment
Fire AJ Preller
just for fun let's have Memphis play Illinois and see what happens.
Tulane dominated North Western start to finish, beat Duke, and beat ECU.
Duke is a common win for both.
Northwestern will be since Illinois gets to end the season with Wisconsin and North Western, lucky them. If were having just for fun games let Tulane play Illinois and see what happens
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Still waiting to hear who did Tennessee beat?
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i've decided that if Lane jets, Oklahoma St will become my new fav team
my first order of duty as the #1 Cowboys fan is finding two wins on next year's schedule
Illinois has a better SOR so they could be ranked ahead of Tennessee. I think the main issue is that no one really cares. Tennessee had quality losses vs. Illinois victory over USC, so you know that might be part of the argument there - really who cares about Illinois and Tennessee. Collect Football Super-fans?
Ah thats right. Only the sec where losses are as good as wins.
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great article about the Kiffin saga
https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/breaking-news/article/lane-kiffins-ego-getting-in-the-way-of-everything-200730429.html
I don't think anyone is saying that. I'm not.
That writer is terrible, ill leave it at that.
Its not ego, hes just letting the teams negotiate against each other. Once FL fired Nappier, LSU fired Kelly the same month.
I do think he is more than likely leaving for a top notch job, but isnt going to say it right now when he has a playoff team this year.
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have you guys seen the unis for this year's Army-Navy game
they are sick
dying to get my filthy mitts on one of those Navy helmets