@BLUEJAYWAY said:
I cannot recall a half time 0-0 score. On second thought I can. Was a high school game.
Isn't this funny: "The last 0-0 halftime score in the NFL was on December 10, 2023, during a game between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Green Bay Packers. "
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@BLUEJAYWAY said:
I cannot recall a half time 0-0 score. On second thought I can. Was a high school game.
Isn't this funny: "The last 0-0 halftime score in the NFL was on December 10, 2023, during a game between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Green Bay Packers. "
History repeats.
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KC plays Denver on Sunday. as it currently stands, the Chiefs are perilously close to missing the playoffs. in fact, they'd be watching from their couches if the season ended today. whether anyone chooses to admit this or not, they are the NFL's gravy train. that said, if the Broncos have 12 penalties on Sunday and the Chiefs have 1, i may lose darin as a friend right after i lose my pop tarts
all i want is for things to shake out based on merit, not rig-a-rama
I was high on Denver and low on KC before the season started, at this point I have no reason to believe that KC won't win their division based on the fact that I do not trust Bo Nix at all, I think he has regressed and he pretty much sucks and I will never trust the Chargers
@galaxy27 said:
KC plays Denver on Sunday. as it currently stands, the Chiefs are perilously close to missing the playoffs. in fact, they'd be watching from their couches if the season ended today. whether anyone chooses to admit this or not, they are the NFL's gravy train. that said, if the Broncos have 12 penalties on Sunday and the Chiefs have 1, i may lose darin as a friend right after i lose my pop tarts
all i want is for things to shake out based on merit, not rig-a-rama
is that asking too much?
It’s okay I’m used to the whole thing now. I even posted how many more flags the Chiefs have drawn this year than their opponents and of course was met with abject silence. 🤔
When people don’t look at an issue objectively it’s not worth arguing with them is what I’ve learned.
@perkdog said:
As far as the penalties favoring or not favoring anyone in any game I would like to see more consistency in every game
I would think that all refs will be on their best behavior now after all talk of rigging games is making headlines everywhere now
Perk- it’s reached the point of being ridiculous now, and it’s the fault of social media idiots not the refs.
For instance Miami just blew out Buffalo fair and square and there were still fans claiming the refs were trying to help Buffalo because the NFL wants them in the playoffs. So it’s spreading to other teams other than KC.
@Darin, I know this will come across as "piling on" but it's not. The fact is that it's been the view of most fans that the better teams seem to be the beneficiary of liberal officiating and the worst teams seem to get flagged far more often. The initial response to that tends to be that the worst teams are the least disciplined, that's why they get penalized more and vice-a-versa. Being objective about that means it can't be had both ways. Either the Chiefs were favored in the past or they are slipping in their discipline and, hence, more penalties.
I've watched a lot of football in my life and the officials don't call things equally against each team. That's not some paranoid conspiracy thinking, it's a cold, hard fact. It was a problem with the Patriots during their run of superiority, it's been a problem with the Chiefs for most of the Mahomes era. It isn't an individual team problem or even really an officials problem. It's an NFL league office problem. And I believe it's a money problem.
My Father was fond of saying that the ref's could call holding on every play if they wanted to, it's the same with illegal contact with WR's/DB's and PI, it's all a "judgement call" anymore. The newest penalty that only seems to be called on some teams in some situations is when a Tackle jumps early on obvious passing plays --- rarely gets called but happens all the time. It's the way the NFL is played today.
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@perkdog said:
As far as the penalties favoring or not favoring anyone in any game I would like to see more consistency in every game
I would think that all refs will be on their best behavior now after all talk of rigging games is making headlines everywhere now
Perk- it’s reached the point of being ridiculous now, and it’s the fault of social media idiots not the refs.
For instance Miami just blew out Buffalo fair and square and there were still fans claiming the refs were trying to help Buffalo because the NFL wants them in the playoffs. So it’s spreading to other teams other than KC.
Truth is I really don't pay attention to it too much, nor did I buy into the NFL was helping KC because of the Taylor Swift thing.
You gotta remember I went through similar stuff with the Patriots and all the hate which was fine, at the end of the day they got 6 Super Bowls and I didn't care all the much.
Did the Patriots cheat? I'm sure they did, but so. has every other team in the league
As far as KC goes I'm sure a lot of refs probably like Mahomes, he is always engaging with the refs and if it helps him then he is doing what's best for his team I won't fault him for that, and if refs "Help" him from time to time that's 100% on the refs not Mahomes, that's the way I look at it
Josh Allen flopping is getting on my nerves to be honest and that rarely gets talked about.
I like Mahomes genuinely but I hope he never catches Brady and the Pats Super Bowl rings because I'm a Pats guy.
I hate social media, people are insufferable with their drivel but that's the world we live in.
Best way I dealt with it was I reveled in the hate every time Brady hoisted the Super Bowl trophy.
Be a fan of your team and let the hate flow, be thankful your not a Bills fan or Browns fan lol
If the Chiefs and Pats both make the playoffs I hope KC gets a top. seed so my Pats don't have to play them first round, same thing with Baltimore, both teams would make me nervous
@galaxy27 said:
KC plays Denver on Sunday. as it currently stands, the Chiefs are perilously close to missing the playoffs. in fact, they'd be watching from their couches if the season ended today. whether anyone chooses to admit this or not, they are the NFL's gravy train. that said, if the Broncos have 12 penalties on Sunday and the Chiefs have 1, i may lose darin as a friend right after i lose my pop tarts
all i want is for things to shake out based on merit, not rig-a-rama
is that asking too much?
It’s okay I’m used to the whole thing now. I even posted how many more flags the Chiefs have drawn this year than their opponents and of course was met with abject silence. 🤔
When people don’t look at an issue objectively it’s not worth arguing with them is what I’ve learned.
you know what @Darin, I saw your post about the flags and gave it some thought. I think you are right. the data doesnt lie. I am afraid I got caught up in the social media hot takes about KC getting all the calls all the time and I bought in. I think it is because I am not as interested in the Chiefs as I am my team and I got lazy and just followed the crowd instead of doing my own research about it.
not to say there are not individual bad calls both for and against every team, because I think there are (including the Patriots) but I am going to lay off the hate on KC over the perception that they get all the calls.
@Darin i do not harbor one iota of animosity toward your team or any player on it. i'm actually a Mahomes fan. i legit like him. and i love Reid. this isn't a Chiefs thing. it all boils down to extreme cynicism where money & sports is involved. i trust no one, including entire leagues. and in this case, it's the NFL's most marketable team we're talking about. when the Chiefs played the Lions a few weeks ago, they were the first team since 1972 to have zero accepted penalties, no turnovers and punt no more than once. to show you how long ago 1972 was, that's when I was born. i'm not saying that game was blatantly tilted in KC's favor. what i'm saying is that when highly improbable/questionable things happen in any game, it's going to make me sit up, take notice, and think. i could rattle off more examples that give me pause, like the KC-Houston playoff game when the Texans got absolutely hosed on more than one crucial play that essentially prevented them from having any chance of winning, but it'll just belabor my point.
last night i caught an interview with Tim Donaghy. needless to say, it was very interesting. at one point he was asked about the 2002 Western Conference Finals G6 game between the Lakers and Sacramento. i watched that game 23 years ago. when it ended, i didn't know anything anymore. i probably went and took a long, cold shower. most blatantly rigged game i had ever seen in my life, and i've watched a ton of sports since 1972. so when Donaghy called it "the most f*cked up game ever," he was not spewing erroneous propaganda. he went on to say that there was no chance of that series ending that night. and it didn't. the refs did everything humanly possible to make sure the NBA's version of the gravy train rode on, and it did. there was one play in particular that i'll probably be thinking about on my death bed. it was late in the game and the Kings were on the verge of winning. Kobe Bryant committed an offensive foul that almost shattered Mike Bibby's face. if he had done that on the street, he would have been charged with third-degree assault. yet when the dust settled, the Black Mamba was standing on the free throw line. the Lakers shot 27 free throws in the 4th quarter of that game. the Lakers won that game. the Lakers won game 7. the Lakers won the NBA finals. your guess is as good as mine how much more loot the association raked in as a result of a Kobe Bryant & Shaquille O'Neal-led Lakers team hoisting the Larry O'Brien as compared to what they would have pulled had it been Chris Webber & Vlade Divac standing on the podium with confetti raining down on their heads, but it's an ungodly difference, to be sure.
if this was the late 90s, you'd see me posting frequently in every baseball thread. i was an enormous fan of the game. i was sitting 5 rows behind the St. Louis Cardinals bench when Mark McGwire tied Roger Maris' mark. at the time, it was the highlight of my life as it pertained to fandom. later on when the truth came out, i gave baseball the double barrel. i had been duped, and i was all but done. a sports league casting a blind eye to ride a monetary wave was something i was going to be on high alert for from that point forward.
don't take it personally, homie. my cynicism is not directed solely toward your team. sports as a whole is exceedingly dirty, and i'm just not the type of person to sit idly and have my intelligence insulted, ever. especially when there have been many attempts in the past.
It’s okay I’m used to the whole thing now. I even posted how many more flags the Chiefs have drawn this year than their opponents and of course was met with abject silence. 🤔
When people don’t look at an issue objectively it’s not worth arguing with them is what I’ve learned.
Perhaps KC has regressed to the mean because their talent has dropped off. What IS indisputable is that: 1) A study was released showing that the referees favored them; 2) After a game against Detroit two years ago, the NFL had to send out a memo remind the referees to actually call obvious penalties because the league had embarrassingly been called out on national TV for refusing to penalize KC.
If you can find another team where both of those things are true then you'll have a good case that the league doesn't specifically favor KC (at least in the recent past). Until then...
Tampa put up a great effort but fell short. The kickoff returns killed them this week. After awhile you might as well kick the ball into the end zone. It’s better than a 50 to 60 yard run back. The defense is tired, and Buffalo ran through them in the end.
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Another unremarkable performance by JJ McCarthy. I'm among the members who condemned him early on but relented to the logic that, yeah, he needs to have a chance to prove himself. At least the rest of this season and the next seems reasonable. But he is not headed in the right direction and unless he turns things around in these last 7 games he might not get next season to finish proving himself.
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@perkdog said:
I was high on Denver and low on KC before the season started, at this point I have no reason to believe that KC won't win their division based on the fact that I do not trust Bo Nix at all, I think he has regressed and he pretty much sucks and I will never trust the Chargers
@perkdog said:
I was high on Denver and low on KC before the season started, at this point I have no reason to believe that KC won't win their division based on the fact that I do not trust Bo Nix at all, I think he has regressed and he pretty much sucks and I will never trust the Chargers
KC 27
Denver 16
Looks like I was wrong
I owe Bo Nix an apology, he played well
Flags were irrelevant
The Chiefs just flat out sucked.
I get kind of tired of Mahomes saying he has to get better and stop making mistakes and then making a stupid throw when the game is tied that cost them at least a field goal. He’s just not a clutch player like he used to be. Not hungry like when he came up.
Another case of too many commercials and outside interests taking precedence over football. He’s rich and satisfied now, no more greatness in him.
Kind of like when Tiger Woods sold his soul to Nike.
The refs just gave the game to the eagles on a phantom pi call.
Both coaches are idiot savants minus the savant. Campbell doesn’t kick a field goal when it’s 13-6 with five minutes left in third quarter and siridiot doesn’t punt on his own 30 yard line.
The only legit thing about Philly is the defense, offense and coaching sucks. Paying the refs sealed the victory for them😂
whichever zebra threw that flag should have been fired before they left the field. call PI on a play like that and you should lose your job stat. only way to clean that nonsense up.
Philly's D was ridiculous tonight. made Goff look like Shedeur Sanders out there
@Darin said:
The refs just gave the game to the eagles on a phantom pi call.
Both coaches are idiot savants minus the savant. Campbell doesn’t kick a field goal when it’s 13-6 with five minutes left in third quarter and siridiot doesn’t punt on his own 30 yard line.
The only legit thing about Philly is the defense, offense and coaching sucks. Paying the refs sealed the victory for them😂
It's disgusting how awful these decisions are that are made by "Professional HC's"
I watched NFL all day yesterday from 930am through the Eagles game and the amount of stupid decisions made was surreal
They might as well take punters and kickers out of the game, 4th down is the new 3rd down.
Its too bad both Campbell and Siriani both couldn't lose last night like those total morons Mike McDaniels and Dan Quinn earlier in the day
@perkdog said:
I was high on Denver and low on KC before the season started, at this point I have no reason to believe that KC won't win their division based on the fact that I do not trust Bo Nix at all, I think he has regressed and he pretty much sucks and I will never trust the Chargers
KC 27
Denver 16
Looks like I was wrong
I owe Bo Nix an apology, he played well
Flags were irrelevant
The Chiefs just flat out sucked.
I get kind of tired of Mahomes saying he has to get better and stop making mistakes and then making a stupid throw when the game is tied that cost them at least a field goal. He’s just not a clutch player like he used to be. Not hungry like when he came up.
Another case of too many commercials and outside interests taking precedence over football. He’s rich and satisfied now, no more greatness in him.
Kind of like when Tiger Woods sold his soul to Nike.
It was all over his face that he was pissed at himself, the 2 interceptions on the same drive 1 he lucked out on with the penalty were surprising, Denver has a top. tier D but Mahomes definitely needs to regroup and play better.
Hard to. believe they are 5 and 5, the Chargers lost yesterday and looked like the Browns, I think you guys can still turn it around in that division but it needs to start sooner rather than later
@perkdog said:
I was high on Denver and low on KC before the season started, at this point I have no reason to believe that KC won't win their division based on the fact that I do not trust Bo Nix at all, I think he has regressed and he pretty much sucks and I will never trust the Chargers
KC 27
Denver 16
Looks like I was wrong
I owe Bo Nix an apology, he played well
Flags were irrelevant
The Chiefs just flat out sucked.
I get kind of tired of Mahomes saying he has to get better and stop making mistakes and then making a stupid throw when the game is tied that cost them at least a field goal. He’s just not a clutch player like he used to be. Not hungry like when he came up.
Another case of too many commercials and outside interests taking precedence over football. He’s rich and satisfied now, no more greatness in him.
Kind of like when Tiger Woods sold his soul to Nike.
I think it is really difficult for professional athletes to continue to play with the same drive/hunger once they start earning tremendously high contracts and have huge amounts coming in from endorsement deals.
It isnt just Mahomes this has had an effect on. It must be hard to keep your focus/drive when you have the world at your fingertips and have generational wealth. I think that is a big reason why many athletes retire young. especially in contact sports. why risk your health/brain when the $ is in the bank?
its the "Rocky" effect. easy to get complacent. I am sure it would happen to me as well!!
@Darin said:
The refs just gave the game to the eagles on a phantom pi call.
Both coaches are idiot savants minus the savant. Campbell doesn’t kick a field goal when it’s 13-6 with five minutes left in third quarter and siridiot doesn’t punt on his own 30 yard line.
The only legit thing about Philly is the defense, offense and coaching sucks. Paying the refs sealed the victory for them😂
It's disgusting how awful these decisions are that are made by "Professional HC's"
I watched NFL all day yesterday from 930am through the Eagles game and the amount of stupid decisions made was surreal
They might as well take punters and kickers out of the game, 4th down is the new 3rd down.
Its too bad both Campbell and Siriani both couldn't lose last night like those total morons Mike McDaniels and Dan Quinn earlier in the day
I really am beginning to believe that coaches are not making decisions anymore, it is Algorithms making them. It seemed to start in baseball with the shifts/pitcher usage/never bunting or sacrificing etc. and has now migrated to football. it seems teams seldom went for it of 4th down in the past, but the last 5-8 years it is very common place. and the whole turning down points thing drives me nuts.
there seems to be a playbook of situations and the "coach" only has to flip through it and arrive at the prearranged decision based on down/distance without regard to other circumstances like momentum.
@Darin said:
The refs just gave the game to the eagles on a phantom pi call.
Both coaches are idiot savants minus the savant. Campbell doesn’t kick a field goal when it’s 13-6 with five minutes left in third quarter and siridiot doesn’t punt on his own 30 yard line.
The only legit thing about Philly is the defense, offense and coaching sucks. Paying the refs sealed the victory for them😂
It's disgusting how awful these decisions are that are made by "Professional HC's"
I watched NFL all day yesterday from 930am through the Eagles game and the amount of stupid decisions made was surreal
They might as well take punters and kickers out of the game, 4th down is the new 3rd down.
Its too bad both Campbell and Siriani both couldn't lose last night like those total morons Mike McDaniels and Dan Quinn earlier in the day
I really am beginning to believe that coaches are not making decisions anymore, it is Algorithms making them. It seemed to start in baseball with the shifts/pitcher usage/never bunting or sacrificing etc. and has now migrated to football. it seems teams seldom went for it of 4th down in the past, but the last 5-8 years it is very common place. and the whole turning down points thing drives me nuts.
there seems to be a playbook of situations and the "coach" only has to flip through it and arrive at the prearranged decision based on down/distance without regard to other circumstances like momentum.
Going for a 4th down on your own 40, not kicking FG's in a tie game late in the 4th ect ect.
I agree it's probably analytics tablets that they are following, every time a HC allows a stupid decision to be made I hope it blows up. in their face, it's utterly ridiculous
I'm taking Campbell over Siriani to out-dumb the other with inexplicable coaching decisions.
That said, Siriani is closing the gap after the last two very late-game decisions the past two weeks.
It's somewhat satisfying to see all these UGA players excelling across the NFL. Did you see Washington, the TE from Pittsburgh yesterday? He looked like the oversized kid in pee wee ball throwing/trucking guys around.
As for the Vikings - I'm bummed we lost but I'm more annoyed at how doom and gloom everyone is about McCarthy's performance. It's a franchise that has no patience for any form of a rebuild or the learning curve needed to progress a young QB. So many folks wanted a franchise QB (let's face it - they've only had one pan out) but have zero tolerance. I have no doubt that McCarthy will get better. I think he over-hypes himself up. Kill the "nine" persona and the face paint, sooner than later - which I'm sure he will. He also had about 5 key drops that doesn't help... For that matter, I would like to see Jefferson remove all of his diamonds and just go play ball.
Last, it's nauseating to see all of these had the Vikings just lost one more game in the draft and Passtronaut not won a meaningless game three seasons ago, they would have drafted Drake Maye - enough already. This is one of about seven what-if scenarios at QB. That said, I'm still not over the Lewis Cine - Kyle Hamilton - Jameson Williamson draft/trade with Detroit.
Call me old school but I’m punting and taking points. I’m not chasing two point conversations unless it’s in the 4th quarter. As soon as the Lions went for their second 4th down on their own 40 I turned it off and went to bed. It’s not a product I’m accustomed to any longer.
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@2dueces said:
Call me old school but I’m punting and taking points. I’m not chasing two point conversations unless it’s in the 4th quarter. As soon as the Lions went for their second 4th down on their own 40 I turned it off and went to bed. It’s not a product I’m accustomed to any longer.
@estang said:
I'm taking Campbell over Siriani to out-dumb the other with inexplicable coaching decisions.
That said, Siriani is closing the gap after the last two very late-game decisions the past two weeks.
The thing is that these moronic decisions already cost Dan Campbell a chance to play in the Super Bowl after he refused to take multiple FG attempts on 4th down to stay comfortably ahead of SF, he failed every time and SF win 34-31
The guy is an idiot and is wasting Detroit's best chances,, if I'm the owner I'm firing him
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GB/Phil. Supposed to be a Game of the Week. It is. The Game of the WEAK.
GB has scored 6 points in a game and 3 quarters.
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I cannot recall a half time 0-0 score. On second thought I can. Was a high school game.
Isn't this funny: "The last 0-0 halftime score in the NFL was on December 10, 2023, during a game between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Green Bay Packers. "
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
History repeats.
lol Nico Harrison
Without Kraft blocking on the edge and finding holes in zone the Packers are pretty dang pedestrian on offense.
KC plays Denver on Sunday. as it currently stands, the Chiefs are perilously close to missing the playoffs. in fact, they'd be watching from their couches if the season ended today. whether anyone chooses to admit this or not, they are the NFL's gravy train. that said, if the Broncos have 12 penalties on Sunday and the Chiefs have 1, i may lose darin as a friend right after i lose my pop tarts
all i want is for things to shake out based on merit, not rig-a-rama
is that asking too much?
I am hoping for a good game. I will be tuning in!!
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I was high on Denver and low on KC before the season started, at this point I have no reason to believe that KC won't win their division based on the fact that I do not trust Bo Nix at all, I think he has regressed and he pretty much sucks and I will never trust the Chargers
KC 27
Denver 16
As far as the penalties favoring or not favoring anyone in any game I would like to see more consistency in every game
I would think that all refs will be on their best behavior now after all talk of rigging games is making headlines everywhere now
Go Denver
It’s okay I’m used to the whole thing now. I even posted how many more flags the Chiefs have drawn this year than their opponents and of course was met with abject silence. 🤔
When people don’t look at an issue objectively it’s not worth arguing with them is what I’ve learned.
Perk- it’s reached the point of being ridiculous now, and it’s the fault of social media idiots not the refs.
For instance Miami just blew out Buffalo fair and square and there were still fans claiming the refs were trying to help Buffalo because the NFL wants them in the playoffs. So it’s spreading to other teams other than KC.
@Darin, I know this will come across as "piling on" but it's not. The fact is that it's been the view of most fans that the better teams seem to be the beneficiary of liberal officiating and the worst teams seem to get flagged far more often. The initial response to that tends to be that the worst teams are the least disciplined, that's why they get penalized more and vice-a-versa. Being objective about that means it can't be had both ways. Either the Chiefs were favored in the past or they are slipping in their discipline and, hence, more penalties.
I've watched a lot of football in my life and the officials don't call things equally against each team. That's not some paranoid conspiracy thinking, it's a cold, hard fact. It was a problem with the Patriots during their run of superiority, it's been a problem with the Chiefs for most of the Mahomes era. It isn't an individual team problem or even really an officials problem. It's an NFL league office problem. And I believe it's a money problem.
My Father was fond of saying that the ref's could call holding on every play if they wanted to, it's the same with illegal contact with WR's/DB's and PI, it's all a "judgement call" anymore. The newest penalty that only seems to be called on some teams in some situations is when a Tackle jumps early on obvious passing plays --- rarely gets called but happens all the time. It's the way the NFL is played today.
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Truth is I really don't pay attention to it too much, nor did I buy into the NFL was helping KC because of the Taylor Swift thing.
You gotta remember I went through similar stuff with the Patriots and all the hate which was fine, at the end of the day they got 6 Super Bowls and I didn't care all the much.
Did the Patriots cheat? I'm sure they did, but so. has every other team in the league
As far as KC goes I'm sure a lot of refs probably like Mahomes, he is always engaging with the refs and if it helps him then he is doing what's best for his team I won't fault him for that, and if refs "Help" him from time to time that's 100% on the refs not Mahomes, that's the way I look at it
Josh Allen flopping is getting on my nerves to be honest and that rarely gets talked about.
I like Mahomes genuinely but I hope he never catches Brady and the Pats Super Bowl rings because I'm a Pats guy.
I hate social media, people are insufferable with their drivel but that's the world we live in.
Best way I dealt with it was I reveled in the hate every time Brady hoisted the Super Bowl trophy.
Be a fan of your team and let the hate flow, be thankful your not a Bills fan or Browns fan lol
If the Chiefs and Pats both make the playoffs I hope KC gets a top. seed so my Pats don't have to play them first round, same thing with Baltimore, both teams would make me nervous
you know what @Darin, I saw your post about the flags and gave it some thought. I think you are right. the data doesnt lie. I am afraid I got caught up in the social media hot takes about KC getting all the calls all the time and I bought in. I think it is because I am not as interested in the Chiefs as I am my team and I got lazy and just followed the crowd instead of doing my own research about it.
not to say there are not individual bad calls both for and against every team, because I think there are (including the Patriots) but I am going to lay off the hate on KC over the perception that they get all the calls.
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@Darin i do not harbor one iota of animosity toward your team or any player on it. i'm actually a Mahomes fan. i legit like him. and i love Reid. this isn't a Chiefs thing. it all boils down to extreme cynicism where money & sports is involved. i trust no one, including entire leagues. and in this case, it's the NFL's most marketable team we're talking about. when the Chiefs played the Lions a few weeks ago, they were the first team since 1972 to have zero accepted penalties, no turnovers and punt no more than once. to show you how long ago 1972 was, that's when I was born. i'm not saying that game was blatantly tilted in KC's favor. what i'm saying is that when highly improbable/questionable things happen in any game, it's going to make me sit up, take notice, and think. i could rattle off more examples that give me pause, like the KC-Houston playoff game when the Texans got absolutely hosed on more than one crucial play that essentially prevented them from having any chance of winning, but it'll just belabor my point.
last night i caught an interview with Tim Donaghy. needless to say, it was very interesting. at one point he was asked about the 2002 Western Conference Finals G6 game between the Lakers and Sacramento. i watched that game 23 years ago. when it ended, i didn't know anything anymore. i probably went and took a long, cold shower. most blatantly rigged game i had ever seen in my life, and i've watched a ton of sports since 1972. so when Donaghy called it "the most f*cked up game ever," he was not spewing erroneous propaganda. he went on to say that there was no chance of that series ending that night. and it didn't. the refs did everything humanly possible to make sure the NBA's version of the gravy train rode on, and it did. there was one play in particular that i'll probably be thinking about on my death bed. it was late in the game and the Kings were on the verge of winning. Kobe Bryant committed an offensive foul that almost shattered Mike Bibby's face. if he had done that on the street, he would have been charged with third-degree assault. yet when the dust settled, the Black Mamba was standing on the free throw line. the Lakers shot 27 free throws in the 4th quarter of that game. the Lakers won that game. the Lakers won game 7. the Lakers won the NBA finals. your guess is as good as mine how much more loot the association raked in as a result of a Kobe Bryant & Shaquille O'Neal-led Lakers team hoisting the Larry O'Brien as compared to what they would have pulled had it been Chris Webber & Vlade Divac standing on the podium with confetti raining down on their heads, but it's an ungodly difference, to be sure.
if this was the late 90s, you'd see me posting frequently in every baseball thread. i was an enormous fan of the game. i was sitting 5 rows behind the St. Louis Cardinals bench when Mark McGwire tied Roger Maris' mark. at the time, it was the highlight of my life as it pertained to fandom. later on when the truth came out, i gave baseball the double barrel. i had been duped, and i was all but done. a sports league casting a blind eye to ride a monetary wave was something i was going to be on high alert for from that point forward.
don't take it personally, homie. my cynicism is not directed solely toward your team. sports as a whole is exceedingly dirty, and i'm just not the type of person to sit idly and have my intelligence insulted, ever. especially when there have been many attempts in the past.
Perhaps KC has regressed to the mean because their talent has dropped off. What IS indisputable is that: 1) A study was released showing that the referees favored them; 2) After a game against Detroit two years ago, the NFL had to send out a memo remind the referees to actually call obvious penalties because the league had embarrassingly been called out on national TV for refusing to penalize KC.
If you can find another team where both of those things are true then you'll have a good case that the league doesn't specifically favor KC (at least in the recent past). Until then...
Mike McDaniels and Dan Quin both are the worst coaches I think I've ever seen
Not kicking FG's when they had an opportunity to take a lead in a tie game is literally criminal, it's too bad both teams can't lose this game.
I'd fire both of them
Mike McDaniel is so weird and bizarre and eccentric that i've developed a man crush on him
He out coaches himself and his own players nearly every game
He is eccentric alright lol.
Spaniards at half: "No vuelvas a traer esa mierda aquí jamás."
Spaniards after the game: "Ese fue el partido de mierda más emocionante entre dos equipos de mierda que jamás haya visto."
The amount of teams that refuse to kick FG's today is literally baffling
I cannot understand it
4th and short it's a very close game let's go for it, fail and just not score
Tampa put up a great effort but fell short. The kickoff returns killed them this week. After awhile you might as well kick the ball into the end zone. It’s better than a 50 to 60 yard run back. The defense is tired, and Buffalo ran through them in the end.
16/32/150/1/2.
Another unremarkable performance by JJ McCarthy. I'm among the members who condemned him early on but relented to the logic that, yeah, he needs to have a chance to prove himself. At least the rest of this season and the next seems reasonable. But he is not headed in the right direction and unless he turns things around in these last 7 games he might not get next season to finish proving himself.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
my goodness, what an amazing game in Denver today!!!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Looks like I was wrong
I owe Bo Nix an apology, he played well
Flags were irrelevant
McCarthy is going to be the downfall of the Vikings.
Fire AJ Preller
Denver has lost two games to the Chargers (by 3) and the Colts (by 1) on game winning field goals.
Denver has had a charmed season so far. I wonder if Denver will continue to win.
Hope so.
The Chiefs just flat out sucked.
I get kind of tired of Mahomes saying he has to get better and stop making mistakes and then making a stupid throw when the game is tied that cost them at least a field goal. He’s just not a clutch player like he used to be. Not hungry like when he came up.
Another case of too many commercials and outside interests taking precedence over football. He’s rich and satisfied now, no more greatness in him.
Kind of like when Tiger Woods sold his soul to Nike.
The refs just gave the game to the eagles on a phantom pi call.
Both coaches are idiot savants minus the savant. Campbell doesn’t kick a field goal when it’s 13-6 with five minutes left in third quarter and siridiot doesn’t punt on his own 30 yard line.
The only legit thing about Philly is the defense, offense and coaching sucks. Paying the refs sealed the victory for them😂
And everyone was on high alert wondering how the refs would help KC win. 🤣😅😂🤣😂😅
You guys are hilarious!!!
whichever zebra threw that flag should have been fired before they left the field. call PI on a play like that and you should lose your job stat. only way to clean that nonsense up.
Philly's D was ridiculous tonight. made Goff look like Shedeur Sanders out there
Well, I hope all the people that wanted Sanders as the Browns QB I hope you're happy!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
this meme is nothing short of brilliant
bravo
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In honor of that great call by the ref, I just sent him a nice gift certificate for LensCrafters. 😂
I googled "Shedeur Sanders game performance" and it came back "ouch."
It's disgusting how awful these decisions are that are made by "Professional HC's"
I watched NFL all day yesterday from 930am through the Eagles game and the amount of stupid decisions made was surreal
They might as well take punters and kickers out of the game, 4th down is the new 3rd down.
Its too bad both Campbell and Siriani both couldn't lose last night like those total morons Mike McDaniels and Dan Quinn earlier in the day
It was all over his face that he was pissed at himself, the 2 interceptions on the same drive 1 he lucked out on with the penalty were surprising, Denver has a top. tier D but Mahomes definitely needs to regroup and play better.
Hard to. believe they are 5 and 5, the Chargers lost yesterday and looked like the Browns, I think you guys can still turn it around in that division but it needs to start sooner rather than later
I think it is really difficult for professional athletes to continue to play with the same drive/hunger once they start earning tremendously high contracts and have huge amounts coming in from endorsement deals.
It isnt just Mahomes this has had an effect on. It must be hard to keep your focus/drive when you have the world at your fingertips and have generational wealth. I think that is a big reason why many athletes retire young. especially in contact sports. why risk your health/brain when the $ is in the bank?
its the "Rocky" effect. easy to get complacent. I am sure it would happen to me as well!!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I really am beginning to believe that coaches are not making decisions anymore, it is Algorithms making them. It seemed to start in baseball with the shifts/pitcher usage/never bunting or sacrificing etc. and has now migrated to football. it seems teams seldom went for it of 4th down in the past, but the last 5-8 years it is very common place. and the whole turning down points thing drives me nuts.
there seems to be a playbook of situations and the "coach" only has to flip through it and arrive at the prearranged decision based on down/distance without regard to other circumstances like momentum.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Going for a 4th down on your own 40, not kicking FG's in a tie game late in the 4th ect ect.
I agree it's probably analytics tablets that they are following, every time a HC allows a stupid decision to be made I hope it blows up. in their face, it's utterly ridiculous
I'm taking Campbell over Siriani to out-dumb the other with inexplicable coaching decisions.
That said, Siriani is closing the gap after the last two very late-game decisions the past two weeks.
It's somewhat satisfying to see all these UGA players excelling across the NFL. Did you see Washington, the TE from Pittsburgh yesterday? He looked like the oversized kid in pee wee ball throwing/trucking guys around.
As for the Vikings - I'm bummed we lost but I'm more annoyed at how doom and gloom everyone is about McCarthy's performance. It's a franchise that has no patience for any form of a rebuild or the learning curve needed to progress a young QB. So many folks wanted a franchise QB (let's face it - they've only had one pan out) but have zero tolerance. I have no doubt that McCarthy will get better. I think he over-hypes himself up. Kill the "nine" persona and the face paint, sooner than later - which I'm sure he will. He also had about 5 key drops that doesn't help... For that matter, I would like to see Jefferson remove all of his diamonds and just go play ball.
Last, it's nauseating to see all of these had the Vikings just lost one more game in the draft and Passtronaut not won a meaningless game three seasons ago, they would have drafted Drake Maye - enough already. This is one of about seven what-if scenarios at QB. That said, I'm still not over the Lewis Cine - Kyle Hamilton - Jameson Williamson draft/trade with Detroit.
Erik
Call me old school but I’m punting and taking points. I’m not chasing two point conversations unless it’s in the 4th quarter. As soon as the Lions went for their second 4th down on their own 40 I turned it off and went to bed. It’s not a product I’m accustomed to any longer.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
It's honestly horrible to watch at times
maybe i'll get a Christmas card from darin after all
The thing is that these moronic decisions already cost Dan Campbell a chance to play in the Super Bowl after he refused to take multiple FG attempts on 4th down to stay comfortably ahead of SF, he failed every time and SF win 34-31
The guy is an idiot and is wasting Detroit's best chances,, if I'm the owner I'm firing him