@Rampage, I’m kinda stumped. While your folder does have Poughkeepsie NY, the paper doesn’t look right. Could you show a close up of the 3 folders-face on, and the inner pages. Everything else looks right for a first edition, but the paper. Or maybe the way you pictured it doesn’t show the textured paper. I’m not anywhere near knowledgeable about all the different styles. Yours are very early by the way.
@jfriedm56 said: @BUFFNIXX , so what would be a ballpark figure. When I talked to David Lange the other day, he said in his 40+ years of collecting these 1st editions, he’s only seen 1 Standing Liberty half dollar folder and it’s in his collection. It’s extremely rare and it looks like I own only the second one known.
The real question is how many collectors with money want to collect these early folders? My suspicion is that the number is very, very small. I consider them "interesting" but nothing I would ever pay any serious money to obtain.
@jfriedm56 said: @BUFFNIXX , so what would be a ballpark figure. When I talked to David Lange the other day, he said in his 40+ years of collecting these 1st editions, he’s only seen 1 Standing Liberty half dollar folder and it’s in his collection. It’s extremely rare and it looks like I own only the second one known.
The real question is how many collectors with money want to collect these early folders? My suspicion is that the number is very, very small. I consider them "interesting" but nothing I would ever pay any serious money to obtain.
@291fifth, I totally agree. The most I ever have spent on an old folder is 50 cents, even for 1st editions cause dealers don’t want or know or care about them. I basically collect them for the thrill of the hunt and their history. I mean that’s a part of coin collecting history, some that are 80 years old for 50 cents, it’s fun!
I posted this in a previous 'early coin folder' thread. It's of my mother, in an ad promoting collecting in folders c. 1941. She was not a coin collector, but she had this in her scrapbook and showed it to me in the '60s as I was starting to fill folders. Looks like a first edition quarter album to me.
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@jfriedm56 said: @BUFFNIXX , so what would be a ballpark figure. When I talked to David Lange the other day, he said in his 40+ years of collecting these 1st editions, he’s only seen 1 Standing Liberty half dollar folder and it’s in his collection. It’s extremely rare and it looks like I own only the second one known.
The real question is how many collectors with money want to collect these early folders? My suspicion is that the number is very, very small. I consider them "interesting" but nothing I would ever pay any serious money to obtain.
@291fifth, I totally agree. The most I ever have spent on an old folder is 50 cents, even for 1st editions cause dealers don’t want or know or care about them. I basically collect them for the thrill of the hunt and their history. I mean that’s a part of coin collecting history, some that are 80 years old for 50 cents, it’s fun!
That's the way to collect them. Never bury yourself in thin market items.
Here is an easy way to tell a first from a second edition folder.
Look at the listing of available folders on the end flap.
on the first edition folder .........
there are three folders under the heading "XX" the last of which is "No. 9024 Two Cent Nickel- Three Cent - 1864 to 1989"
while on the early second edition folders ..........
there are four folders under the XX heading the last of which is "No. 9025 Silver Dollars -- General",
Of course if the end flap is missing, incomplete or defaced you use some other point of identification such as the
texture of the blue cover (lizard skin) or the distinctive black backing visible on the inside of the folder.
When I say four folders for the second edition I mean the early editions, as folders were added to the line they were also
added to the flap.
Another way to say it ..........
The only folders with only three entries under XX on the end flap are first edition folders.
Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
@BUFFNIXX said:
Here is an easy way to tell a first from a second edition folder.
Look at the listing of available folders on the end flap.
on the first edition folder .........
there are three folders under the heading "XX" the last of which is "No. 9024 Two Cent Nickel- Three Cent - 1864 to 1989"
while on the early second edition folders ..........
there are four folders under the XX heading the last of which is "No. 9025 Silver Dollars -- General",
Of course if the end flap is missing, incomplete or defaced you use some other point of identification such as the
texture of the blue cover (lizard skin) or the distinctive black backing visible on the inside of the folder.
When I say four folders for the second edition I mean the early editions, as folders were added to the line they were also
added to the flap.
Another way to say it ..........
The only folders with only three entries under XX on the end flap are first edition folders.
To me that’s awfully confusing. For me personally, the 3 definitive bullets for a first edition are: 1) copyrighted 1940 with Poughkeepsie, N.Y. On lower last flap. 2) deep blue colored folder with alligator type textured skin. 3) internal glue lines in black colored inner holes. Easiest way to tell.
Lets me put it this way,
If you suspect that you have a first edition folder look at the XX on the end flap.
If there are only three entries for available folders under the XX then it is first edition
otherwise it is a second (or greater) edition folder
This might be a bit subtle but is the easiest way to determine if you have a first edition fodler.
buffnixx
Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
I thought perhaps I had stumbled upon a first edition Whitman Folder yet this thread saved me and it is indeed a second generation instead.
(BUFFNIXX's posts were the assist.) https://www.ebay.com/itm/276797274224
@BUFFNIXX, @braddick. Braddick, I’m not convinced that the folder you are referring to with the four lines under the XX is not a 1st edition. It has all the correct boxes checked for a 1st edition except what BUFFNIXX calls 4 lines a 2nd edition. I have not seen any written references that state it would be considered a 2nd edition if it meets all the criteria of a 1st edition, but has 4 lines instead of 3. Please show me a written reference from any credible source, such as David Lange or other authors saying 1st editions only have 3 lines, not 4 please.
@BUFFNIXX said:
As you can see on the first page, there are two holes for the 1892-O half dollar, one is called the "medium O" variety
and the second is referred to as "microscopic O". The "micro O" variety as it is also called, is extremely rare and I think
the estimate of its mintage is around 200 specimens. And there is also two openings for the 1894-s, "high S" and
"low S" varieties. Eventually Whitman removed the plugged hole for the 1892s micro O variety and left the two
1894s openings as they were. Eventually they consolidated the two openings for the 1894s into one and created a
third version of this first volume starting 1892. Collectors were not too happy with the first two versions because
of a lack of interest for the two minor positional varieties of the 1894S and the lack of availability for the 1892-O
micro O. A very interesting folder indeed.
I love learning more and more about these early first and second edition Whitman albums.
I am thinking this is a second edition?
@BUFFNIXX said:
As you can see on the first page, there are two holes for the 1892-O half dollar, one is called the "medium O" variety
and the second is referred to as "microscopic O". The "micro O" variety as it is also called, is extremely rare and I think
the estimate of its mintage is around 200 specimens. And there is also two openings for the 1894-s, "high S" and
"low S" varieties. Eventually Whitman removed the plugged hole for the 1892s micro O variety and left the two
1894s openings as they were. Eventually they consolidated the two openings for the 1894s into one and created a
third version of this first volume starting 1892. Collectors were not too happy with the first two versions because
of a lack of interest for the two minor positional varieties of the 1894S and the lack of availability for the 1892-O
micro O. A very interesting folder indeed.
I love learning more and more about these early first and second edition Whitman albums.
I am thinking this is a second edition?
(Seller's photos)
I don’t believe that this is a first edition as I do not see Poughkeepsie, N.Y. Copyright, only Racine, Wisconsin. Thanks for posting. Zack.
I just looked through my collection of blue Whitman folders and found these:
Half Dime 1794 - 1873 c. 1940
Bust Type Dime 1796 - 1837 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Dime 1837 - 1862 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Dime 1863 - 1891 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Quarter 1838 - 1865 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Quarter 1866 - 1891 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1839 - 1850 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1851 - 1862 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1863 - 1873 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1873 - 1891 c. 1956
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
I collect in blue Whitman folders exclusively, so I have all the ones from back in the day when I started. I used to find old & world editions at the local Mom & Pop coin store for $1 each, which is how I expanded my horizons within U.S. coins, as well as to Darkside countries like Mexico, UK, Canada, Australia, & New Zealand. I also got a few Darkside that I needed from hief Coin & Supply in Oskosh, WI. Have several with the old names for various coins from back in the 40's.........
@RichieURich said:
I just looked through my collection of blue Whitman folders and found these:
Half Dime 1794 - 1873 c. 1940
Bust Type Dime 1796 - 1837 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Dime 1837 - 1862 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Dime 1863 - 1891 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Quarter 1838 - 1865 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Quarter 1866 - 1891 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1839 - 1850 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1851 - 1862 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1863 - 1873 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1873 - 1891 c. 1956
Nice. Do any of them have the 1940 copyright with the Poughkeepsie,N.Y. printed on the inner back flap? If so, I believe those are first editions. Good luck.
@RichieURich said:
I just looked through my collection of blue Whitman folders and found these:
Half Dime 1794 - 1873 c. 1940
Bust Type Dime 1796 - 1837 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Dime 1837 - 1862 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Dime 1863 - 1891 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Quarter 1838 - 1865 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Quarter 1866 - 1891 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1839 - 1850 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1851 - 1862 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1863 - 1873 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1873 - 1891 c. 1956
Nice. Do any of them have the 1940 copyright with the Poughkeepsie,N.Y. printed on the inner back flap? If so, I believe those are first editions. Good luck.
Unfortunately, no. All of them show Racine, Wisconsin.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
@RichieURich said:
I just looked through my collection of blue Whitman folders and found these:
Half Dime 1794 - 1873 c. 1940
Bust Type Dime 1796 - 1837 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Dime 1837 - 1862 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Dime 1863 - 1891 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Quarter 1838 - 1865 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Quarter 1866 - 1891 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1839 - 1850 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1851 - 1862 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1863 - 1873 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1873 - 1891 c. 1956
Nice. Do any of them have the 1940 copyright with the Poughkeepsie,N.Y. printed on the inner back flap? If so, I believe those are first editions. Good luck.
Unfortunately, no. All of them show Racine, Wisconsin.
The rippled glue within the backs of the holes, which leaves rippled toning on (usually) the reverse of the coins, was caused by the early tri-folds being made by applying the glue to the entire front of the backing sheet, and then pressing the backs of the three already punched and printed cardboard holders onto that. After complaints were received, they changed the process so that they applied the glue to the backs of the three punched and printed holders, and then pressed them only the unglued backing sheet. Viola! No glue in the bottom of the hole.
As to the P-S-D vs. P-D-S mint mark order, Ken Bressett once told me that this was because Wayte Raymond arranged the mint marks in the order that the Mints were opened in his books and folders, and when Whitman used the same order in their books and folders Raymond grumbled about possible copyright infringement. So, eventually Whitman changed to an alphabetical order for their mint marks.
Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," due out late 2025.
@CaptHenway said:
The rippled glue within the backs of the holes, which leaves rippled toning on (usually) the reverse of the coins, was caused by the early tri-folds being made by applying the glue to the entire front of the backing sheet, and then pressing the backs of the three already punched and printed cardboard holders onto that. After complaints were received, they changed the process so that they applied the glue to the backs of the three punched and printed holders, and then pressed them only the unglued backing sheet. Viola! No glue in the bottom of the hole.
As to the P-S-D vs. P-D-S mint mark order, Ken Bressett once told me that this was because Wayte Raymond arranged the mint marks in the order that the Mints were opened in his books and folders, and when Whitman used the same order in their books and folders Raymond grumbled about possible copyright infringement. So, eventually Whitman changed to an alphabetical order for their mint marks.
Exactly. I’ve illustrated this earlier in this thread. For those who might have missed it.
Not sure if the older vintage Whitman's had stronger backs, but when I started collecting in albums, used a Washington & Franklin Whitman album. Punched holes in the back for both. When I started collecting Morgans and Peace dollars in albums, decided to go with the LOC and Dansco albums. Figured bigger heavier coins will have the same results. Probably just me.
Supposedly there are only 2 or 3 of the half dollar folder for liberty Standing Half Dollars starting 1916. I think this low availability was because in 1940 fifty cents was a lot of money to tie up in these coin folders. So these did not sell as well as the cent, nickel, and dime first edition folders which more collectors collected as a series. So few were bought and even fewer seem to have been saved. This folder is perhaps the rarest of the 22 first edition folders except for the few of which no specimens have turned up yet. Referring to David W Lange's book on Whitman folders and albums which is titles
"Coin Collecting Albums -- A Complete History & Catalogue Volume Three -- Whitman Publishing -- Folders and Albums 1940-1978." This book says on page 59 that silver three cent pieces 1851 to 1873 and half dimes have not yet been discovered.
Since the release of this book in 2020 a couple of the half dime folders has shown up.
buffnixx
Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
@BUFFNIXX said:
Supposedly there are only 2 or 3 of the half dollar folder for liberty Standing Half Dollars starting 1916. I think this low availability was because in 1940 fifty cents was a lot of money to tie up in these coin folders. So these did not sell as well as the cent, nickel, and dime first edition folders which more collectors collected as a series. So few were bought and even fewer seem to have been saved. This folder is perhaps the rarest of the 22 first edition folders except for the few of which no specimens have turned up yet. Referring to David W Lange's book on Whitman folders and albums which is titles
"Coin Collecting Albums -- A Complete History & Catalogue Volume Three -- Whitman Publishing -- Folders and Albums 1940-1978." This book says on page 59 that silver three cent pieces 1851 to 1873 and half dimes have not yet been discovered.
Since the release of this book in 2020 a couple of the half dime folders has shown up.
No specimens have turned up yet. Referring to David W Lange's book on Whitman folders and albums which is titles
"Coin Collecting Albums -- A Complete History & Catalogue Volume Three -- Whitman Publishing -- Folders and Albums 1940-1978." This book says on page 59 that silver three cent pieces 1851 to 1873 and half dimes have not yet been discovered.
Since the release of this book in 2020 a couple of the half dime folders has shown up.
looks like the silver three cent piece folder shown above is a second edition folder not a first. There is no mention of
Poughkipsi only Racine on the inside flap and the cover has the texture and appearance of a second edition folder too.
Bet that when you look at the other side of the flap there are not three entries at the bottom but rather four the last of
which is for silver dollars general. If Poughkipsi is not mentioned then this alone means it is not a first edition folder.
still a very nice folder in its own right.
Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
Look at jfriedm56 picture of the standing liberty half dollar folder. you will see that when it was first issued there were exactly enough spaces available to complete this folder with the 1941 p d and s issues. This was possible only because in
1940 there were no halves produced at the denver mint, only s and p specimens. Had the mint produced all the mint coins in 1940 the folder would have had two blank openings on the last row of the second page.
In 1942 instead of starting a new folder with four coins per row Whitman cut back to 3 coins per row putting the first half of the collection into a 1916-1936 folder and then coins starting 1937 on into the second folder. Because Whitman did this the first folder starting 1916 with four openings per row has become an extreme rarity because many of the original folders which went from 1916 to 1941 were discarded by collectors who bought two new folders in 1942 for their "Standing Liberty Half Dollar" collections. (Some have priced this ultra rare folder at upwards of $500.)
Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
I had a lot of these folders in the early to mid 1960s. The cents worked well, but I had trouble with other coins falling out of them.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
I bought out several other kids back in the day. Some of my empty folders are in the basement but I checked the stack in my office filing cabinet.
3 from Racine
1 from Shoreline Publishing
2 from Wester Publishing/Whitman
2 BROWN ones from Dansco
I have ner looked at who made them before. interesting. James
I have quite a few folders, not many empty ones though as I try to fill them from my CRH finds. They are mostly just filled with lower grade stuff. I still have some from when I was a kid.
Jim
Comments
I bought these some time ago from a dealer’s silver junk box and these have the telltale signs of being in an early folder with the glue.
@jfriedm56 Here are mine...
Pretty cool!! I know a dealer that has a few he just gives away, going to look through them to see if any are older.
My current registry sets:
20th Century Type Set
Virtual DANSCO 7070
Slabbed IHC set - Missing the Anacs Slabbed coins
@Rampage, I’m kinda stumped. While your folder does have Poughkeepsie NY, the paper doesn’t look right. Could you show a close up of the 3 folders-face on, and the inner pages. Everything else looks right for a first edition, but the paper. Or maybe the way you pictured it doesn’t show the textured paper. I’m not anywhere near knowledgeable about all the different styles. Yours are very early by the way.
Here are some of mine. Acquired them in an estate.
The real question is how many collectors with money want to collect these early folders? My suspicion is that the number is very, very small. I consider them "interesting" but nothing I would ever pay any serious money to obtain.
@291fifth, I totally agree. The most I ever have spent on an old folder is 50 cents, even for 1st editions cause dealers don’t want or know or care about them. I basically collect them for the thrill of the hunt and their history. I mean that’s a part of coin collecting history, some that are 80 years old for 50 cents, it’s fun!
I posted this in a previous 'early coin folder' thread. It's of my mother, in an ad promoting collecting in folders c. 1941. She was not a coin collector, but she had this in her scrapbook and showed it to me in the '60s as I was starting to fill folders. Looks like a first edition quarter album to me.
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That's the way to collect them. Never bury yourself in thin market items.
I guess these are vintage folders. 1949 copywriter. The only good vintage folder, is a used vintage folder. 😉
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
I have a bunch of these Whitman first gen 1940 folders used to fill them as a kiddo. Has anyone seen this one, not Whitman…
Here is an easy way to tell a first from a second edition folder.
Look at the listing of available folders on the end flap.
on the first edition folder .........
there are three folders under the heading "XX" the last of which is "No. 9024 Two Cent Nickel- Three Cent - 1864 to 1989"
while on the early second edition folders ..........
there are four folders under the XX heading the last of which is "No. 9025 Silver Dollars -- General",
Of course if the end flap is missing, incomplete or defaced you use some other point of identification such as the
texture of the blue cover (lizard skin) or the distinctive black backing visible on the inside of the folder.
When I say four folders for the second edition I mean the early editions, as folders were added to the line they were also
added to the flap.
Another way to say it ..........
The only folders with only three entries under XX on the end flap are first edition folders.
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
To me that’s awfully confusing. For me personally, the 3 definitive bullets for a first edition are: 1) copyrighted 1940 with Poughkeepsie, N.Y. On lower last flap. 2) deep blue colored folder with alligator type textured skin. 3) internal glue lines in black colored inner holes. Easiest way to tell.
Lets me put it this way,
If you suspect that you have a first edition folder look at the XX on the end flap.
If there are only three entries for available folders under the XX then it is first edition
otherwise it is a second (or greater) edition folder
This might be a bit subtle but is the easiest way to determine if you have a first edition fodler.
buffnixx
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
Moot issue for me, my wife threw them out years ago. “You don’t need these if they are empty.”
I did see one (Barber Dimes, blue Whitman) in an estate viewing not long ago - best grade was good. Any better dates were culls.
I thought perhaps I had stumbled upon a first edition Whitman Folder yet this thread saved me and it is indeed a second generation instead.
(BUFFNIXX's posts were the assist.)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276797274224
peacockcoins
@BUFFNIXX, @braddick. Braddick, I’m not convinced that the folder you are referring to with the four lines under the XX is not a 1st edition. It has all the correct boxes checked for a 1st edition except what BUFFNIXX calls 4 lines a 2nd edition. I have not seen any written references that state it would be considered a 2nd edition if it meets all the criteria of a 1st edition, but has 4 lines instead of 3. Please show me a written reference from any credible source, such as David Lange or other authors saying 1st editions only have 3 lines, not 4 please.
I love learning more and more about these early first and second edition Whitman albums.
I am thinking this is a second edition?
(Seller's photos)
peacockcoins
I don’t believe that this is a first edition as I do not see Poughkeepsie, N.Y. Copyright, only Racine, Wisconsin. Thanks for posting. Zack.
@jfriedm56
I thought it might be the second edition.
peacockcoins
I just looked through my collection of blue Whitman folders and found these:
Half Dime 1794 - 1873 c. 1940
Bust Type Dime 1796 - 1837 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Dime 1837 - 1862 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Dime 1863 - 1891 c. 1940
Liberty Seated Quarter 1838 - 1865 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Quarter 1866 - 1891 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1839 - 1850 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1851 - 1862 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1863 - 1873 c. 1956
Liberty Seated Half Dollar 1873 - 1891 c. 1956
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
I collect in blue Whitman folders exclusively, so I have all the ones from back in the day when I started. I used to find old & world editions at the local Mom & Pop coin store for $1 each, which is how I expanded my horizons within U.S. coins, as well as to Darkside countries like Mexico, UK, Canada, Australia, & New Zealand. I also got a few Darkside that I needed from hief Coin & Supply in Oskosh, WI. Have several with the old names for various coins from back in the 40's.........
I wonder how many collectors actually pulled the plug out of the rare spot and actually filled the hole in the folder.
Nice. Do any of them have the 1940 copyright with the Poughkeepsie,N.Y. printed on the inner back flap? If so, I believe those are first editions. Good luck.
Unfortunately, no. All of them show Racine, Wisconsin.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
Well that’s ok. They’re fun to collect anyway.
The rippled glue within the backs of the holes, which leaves rippled toning on (usually) the reverse of the coins, was caused by the early tri-folds being made by applying the glue to the entire front of the backing sheet, and then pressing the backs of the three already punched and printed cardboard holders onto that. After complaints were received, they changed the process so that they applied the glue to the backs of the three punched and printed holders, and then pressed them only the unglued backing sheet. Viola! No glue in the bottom of the hole.
As to the P-S-D vs. P-D-S mint mark order, Ken Bressett once told me that this was because Wayte Raymond arranged the mint marks in the order that the Mints were opened in his books and folders, and when Whitman used the same order in their books and folders Raymond grumbled about possible copyright infringement. So, eventually Whitman changed to an alphabetical order for their mint marks.
Exactly. I’ve illustrated this earlier in this thread. For those who might have missed it.
Not sure if the older vintage Whitman's had stronger backs, but when I started collecting in albums, used a Washington & Franklin Whitman album. Punched holes in the back for both. When I started collecting Morgans and Peace dollars in albums, decided to go with the LOC and Dansco albums. Figured bigger heavier coins will have the same results. Probably just me.
Supposedly there are only 2 or 3 of the half dollar folder for liberty Standing Half Dollars starting 1916. I think this low availability was because in 1940 fifty cents was a lot of money to tie up in these coin folders. So these did not sell as well as the cent, nickel, and dime first edition folders which more collectors collected as a series. So few were bought and even fewer seem to have been saved. This folder is perhaps the rarest of the 22 first edition folders except for the few of which no specimens have turned up yet. Referring to David W Lange's book on Whitman folders and albums which is titles
"Coin Collecting Albums -- A Complete History & Catalogue Volume Three -- Whitman Publishing -- Folders and Albums 1940-1978." This book says on page 59 that silver three cent pieces 1851 to 1873 and half dimes have not yet been discovered.
Since the release of this book in 2020 a couple of the half dime folders has shown up.
buffnixx
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
Do you mean like this one?
No specimens have turned up yet. Referring to David W Lange's book on Whitman folders and albums which is titles
looks like the silver three cent piece folder shown above is a second edition folder not a first. There is no mention of
Poughkipsi only Racine on the inside flap and the cover has the texture and appearance of a second edition folder too.
Bet that when you look at the other side of the flap there are not three entries at the bottom but rather four the last of
which is for silver dollars general. If Poughkipsi is not mentioned then this alone means it is not a first edition folder.
still a very nice folder in its own right.
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
Mr_Spud
Mr_Spud. That certainly looks like a 1st edition with the Poughkeepsie copyright. Congrats!
Look at jfriedm56 picture of the standing liberty half dollar folder. you will see that when it was first issued there were exactly enough spaces available to complete this folder with the 1941 p d and s issues. This was possible only because in
1940 there were no halves produced at the denver mint, only s and p specimens. Had the mint produced all the mint coins in 1940 the folder would have had two blank openings on the last row of the second page.
In 1942 instead of starting a new folder with four coins per row Whitman cut back to 3 coins per row putting the first half of the collection into a 1916-1936 folder and then coins starting 1937 on into the second folder. Because Whitman did this the first folder starting 1916 with four openings per row has become an extreme rarity because many of the original folders which went from 1916 to 1941 were discarded by collectors who bought two new folders in 1942 for their "Standing Liberty Half Dollar" collections. (Some have priced this ultra rare folder at upwards of $500.)
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
I had a lot of these folders in the early to mid 1960s. The cents worked well, but I had trouble with other coins falling out of them.
I bought out several other kids back in the day. Some of my empty folders are in the basement but I checked the stack in my office filing cabinet.
3 from Racine
1 from Shoreline Publishing
2 from Wester Publishing/Whitman
2 BROWN ones from Dansco
I have ner looked at who made them before. interesting. James
I have quite a few folders, not many empty ones though as I try to fill them from my CRH finds. They are mostly just filled with lower grade stuff. I still have some from when I was a kid.
Jim