Feuchtwanger’s Composition.

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jfriedm56
jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 31, 2025 5:05AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I posted this new purchase in the new purchase section, asking if anyone had information on this token and no one responded. So I’m posting it here to see if anyone knows if there were different dies used or other pertinent information out there about these tokens. I do know there were 4 varieties produced. Thanks Zack.

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  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Google it. They are not really obscure. There's tons of information on them, even in the Red Book.

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  • jmlanzaf
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    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • JBK
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    "Obscure tokens"? As far as I know they are not obscure at all. I believe they are quite popular.

    That's a nice one, by the way.

  • jfriedm56
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    I guess obscure was the wrong term to use and I know they're in the Red Book. I was actually looking for more in depth information about different dies used and or different varieties, and posted this to find sources for better information. Thank you both and @jmlanzaf for the die marriage info as that was what I was looking for. Zack.

  • lilolme
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    In the last Resources update I asked Aspie to include the NGC article. Here is the Resources link (pinned to the top of the US Forum) and it is under the 1c. Then the NGC link in the Resources thread.

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1006619/resources-books-links-to-read-on-numismatic-series-errors-and-varieties/p1

    https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/7628/FeuchtwangerOneCent/

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  • jfriedm56
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    @jmlanzaf, just read the referenced article you sent me and that's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for your sharing of knowledge. Much appreciated. Zack.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @jfriedm56 said:
    @jmlanzaf, just read the referenced article you sent me and that's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for your sharing of knowledge. Much appreciated. Zack.

    You're welcome. But I just googled it. I've always found the Feuchtelwanger coins interesting, but I don't really ibis that much about them.

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  • jfriedm56
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    @lilolme, thank you for all that reference material. Appreciate you. Zack.

  • MWallace
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    edited October 31, 2025 8:37AM
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    I've questioned often why these aren't listed in pattern books as a private pattern as other privately struck pieces are.

  • lkenefic
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    I think these are listed in resources that also describe Hard-Times tokens.

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  • tokenpro
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    The bottom berry, left or right, absent or present, answers the first 90% of what people usually want to know.

  • jfriedm56
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    @tokenpro said:
    The bottom berry, left or right, absent or present, answers the first 90% of what people usually want to know.

    I did just notice that in one of the references I looked at. Mine has 13 berries with a single berry to the right of the bow. Looks like the G type reverse and the #6 obverse with the dash next to the upper serif of the1? So could this be a 6G -R2 as in fairly common die pair marriage?

  • cmerlo1
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    They're definitely not obscure- I once had someone submit a hoard of over 50 of them, including 1 3-cent piece.

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  • ambro51
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    Yes. 6G. This is a bit scarier than the 6 I. Nice coin BTW

  • Desert Moon
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    Here is mine, die marriage 3E. There are 15 different die marriages known according to Bowers in the HTT Red Book. There still may be undiscovered pairings.

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  • MWallace
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    @BillJones
    Awesome article. Thanks for sharing.

  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BillJones, thanks for posting such an informative article. Appreciate the effort. Zack. I learned new info today. Thanks.

  • ambro51
    ambro51 Posts: 14,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 31, 2025 3:25PM
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    I’m surprised the article doesn’t mention the Feuchtwanger store cards. Also, HT265 is a specimen strike, HT265a is a business strike, with supposedly no known examples. However I HAD an HT265a which clearly did not have a “full pressure” strike and non proof surfaces. It was miscataloged by Stacks., despite my conversation with a rep whose initials are VY. Consequently I lost about 5 grand on the sale and THAT forever drove me out of the world of high dollar numismatics.

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